Imponderables: Saw Hell In A Dream

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NVGHOSTRIDER

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:15 PM

We've all had them. Hopefully the dream was forgotten over time.

What is the point if having good dreams if we don't have bad ones too.

Previous Thread:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=2&t=37259&m=686144#top

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

ZEEK

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:18 PM

I wins firsties?

NVGHOSTRIDER

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:24 PM

That youse does.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

FREELANCERTEX

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:27 PM

O_o morbid and creepifying title NV.. :P

NVGHOSTRIDER

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:34 PM

I was listening to a song from Benefit called Dreaming In Hell that details a lot of things that happen to people on a daily basis that other people never see. But it also goes into the alternatives people seek once they finally see those things. Kinda morbid, but people usually seek a better alternatives when faced with bad things.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

MSA

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:28 PM

NV

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

LEOPARDFLAN

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:08 PM

I has a ponder...

Specifically, how much to lie to my mom about. See, I haven't been on the comp in a long long time, and I want as much time as I can get, and so I got on after mom started her nap, and she'll probably wake up in a couple of hours or later. I dunno if I want to try and play for the 'I was waiting for you to get on so I could get on the comp, but I just couldn't wait any more!', and get that much extra time, or play it down an hour or so to make the story more believable. What do you all think?

NVGHOSTRIDER

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:48 PM

Honestly I wouldn't chance her finding out. Having been a kid who hasn't really grown up I've seen my share of thses things and someone always finds out. Someone is always watching. And you have already invlved more than one person in your plan multiplying the chances of being found out. Might as well just admit to it and make a case for getting more time.

I hope that didn't sound too parent like. It is more intended as a warning. I am a bad liar because of my terrible memory. I pretty much know I can't get away with crap because of it.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

ZEEK

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:13 PM

I think this is an opportunity for you. There will always be rules in life and you aren't going to like them. Just think of this as a lesson for the future.

If this were a job and your boss had told you what to do you'd be left with 3 options
1.) disregard the rule and do what you want (potential risk: you get fired)
2.) follow the rule and just live with it
3.) discuss your concerns with your boss and attempt to convince your boss to change the rule

Learning option 2 and 3 will serve you well later in life. Getting used to option 1 will set you up for some tough times.

If you act professionally and present your case to your parents (the boss) then maybe you'll convince them to change their minds. Maybe not. You have to live with their decision either way though.

PIRATENEWS

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:27 PM

Last night I dreamed I was at the Obama Coronation.

MSA

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:38 PM

I said the same thing in the bar. You get busted and they know they can't trust you. If they know that they're a lot less likely to let you off grounding or trust you later.... it might be fun to get more time now, but I doubt it'll be worth them locking the comp or not letting you on 'cause you lied... and all they have to do is check the history on the comp to know how long you were on... wiping it won't help either the time log in terminal is uneraseable

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

FREELANCERTEX

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:38 PM

(O)_(O) !!!!!! *GASP*

*screams the scream she hasn't been able to voice since she was a small child*
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

*runs away*

dont EVER show a PICTURE LIKE THAT AGAIN!!!!!!

*hides*

MSA

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:51 PM

LOL

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

ZEEK

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:08 PM

FLT can you scream a little quieter next time so the screen doesn't go all stretchy?

FREELANCERTEX

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:15 PM

only if pirate promises not to show any more scary pictures like that O_O

MSA

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:21 PM

Here Zeek sweety... industrial earplugs:) Does that help?

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:03 PM

Thanks for the illustration Pirate.

Not to say I completely agree but the same can be said about my disagreement also.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

MSA

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:09 PM

It's the eyes... the creepy creepy fanatical eyes....

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

FREELANCERTEX

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:53 PM

yeah. thats what it is. *shudders* (O)_(O)

MSA

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:59 PM

:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

MSA

Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:02 PM

bumpin for happy morning:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

LEOPARDFLAN

Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:12 PM

-bumps back-

Because I can ^_^

NVGHOSTRIDER

Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:33 PM

Ya gotta fix your lengthy scream FLT. We're all stretchy and stuffs.

Just because numerous people (someone at the ANS forum, my buddy John, and Adam Corolla) mentioned the Goonies in the last 24 hours.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

MSA

Thursday, March 19, 2009 5:30 PM

I find that all manner of disturbing....

NV for being the sweetest man in the known universe

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

FREELANCERTEX

Thursday, March 19, 2009 5:48 PM

lol, it's disturbing but very well done XD

MSA

Thursday, March 19, 2009 6:02 PM

must lie down to gain enough energy to go shopping

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Thursday, March 19, 2009 7:43 PM

Already went shopping once now I get to go back. Freakin' yay!

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

ZEEK

Thursday, March 19, 2009 8:04 PM

Well the tests showed lots of bacteria in the kitty so there's some potential this was all an infection. She is acting much more herself lately. So, we will see. They want to run more tests Monday. *fingers crossed*

MSA

Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:07 PM

oh that's very encouraging Zeek. I will keep my fingers crossed and my positive thoughts flowing ...hang in there

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:25 PM

Poor kitty:(

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

MSA

Friday, March 20, 2009 12:29 AM

ok weird ponder... which would you prefer alien invasion or zombie uprising??

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

ZEEK

Friday, March 20, 2009 12:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by MsA:
ok weird ponder... which would you prefer alien invasion or zombie uprising??

Well zombies cause we'd win. Aliens would take over for sure, but it'd be cooler if aliens existed.

MSA

Friday, March 20, 2009 1:17 AM

so you're confident in us winning against the zombies huh?

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

SOLARFLARE

Friday, March 20, 2009 11:31 AM

Aliens.

Being chased around by aliens sounds a lot more interesting than being chased around by dead people. At least then we will have confirmed the existence of extra-terrestrial life.

Plus, if there's Zombies, then that means I'll eventually be a Zombie too. (And not just in a three-hour history-class monotone professor zombie way.)

Unless of course they are zombie aliens. That would change everything.

FREELANCERTEX

Friday, March 20, 2009 2:43 PM

zombie aliens...there's a novel concept. i wonder what that would be like.......

NVGHOSTRIDER

Friday, March 20, 2009 3:40 PM

Aliens are far too unpredictable to even consider over zombies. At least the garden variety of zombie is a bit more predictable and can be fought.

I thought of the whole becoming a zombie thing. I think being fitted with a collar that explodes when a person reanimates might be a good idea. Sucks if a person has a heart attack or stroke that might have been survivable though.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

RHYIANAN

Friday, March 20, 2009 3:50 PM

An alternate version of this question:

Would I rather be killed by aliens or become an animated corpse that attacks people for their brains?

I'll take the aliens. When I die, I want to stay dead.

Besides, who knows what the aliens really want or if they are easily defeated once you know that country music causes their brain to explode. It could be a peaceful invasion...most likely not, but there's a possiblity.

I'm a leaf on the wind

ZEEK

Friday, March 20, 2009 4:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MsA:
so you're confident in us winning against the zombies huh?

Yep. Humans rule the world cause we're the most intelligent. Zombies don't win the intelligence war. Space traveling aliens would probably out smart us and then we're hosed. We're not particularly fast, strong, or durable. All we've got is smarts. Bring on the zombies!

NVGHOSTRIDER

Friday, March 20, 2009 4:26 PM

Zombies have at least three force multipliers in their arsenal. Granted we are discussing Romero undead sort.
1. They are already dead. Hunger, sleep, and emotion are not an issue with them.
2. They eat people. People who don't die from an attack risk becoming a zombie sooner after having physical contact with them.
3. People are generally stupider than zombies. Okay, hear me out on this one. People are prone to panic attacks, power trips, and low self esteem/morale. They will as soon kill and eat each other once times get hard. People are their own enemies.

Combat/situational fatigue sets in on the average person within the day. With an unfamiliar world and unprepared mindset people will literally walk into rattling gunfire or a zombie hoarde without blinking. Healthy humans can get sick, make themselves sick, and can get other people sick. Not with the zombie plague, but with common things like colds and STIs. Zombies do not have to worry about protecting weaker group members, carrying necessary equipment, a steady supply of food and water, or all but the most extreme weather conditons. And people will die only to become zombie.

At least with they varying possibilities of alien life they are limited by their exposure to this world and its inhabitants. In theory this planet offers natural resources needed by any number of theoretical being. Even humans provide some sort of resource whether they be food, incubation material, or manual labor. The possibility of human survival is greater with alien interaction than with zombie.

Or, at least in my humble opinion.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

ZEEK

Friday, March 20, 2009 5:01 PM

1 tank > infinite zombies

They wouldn't be able to damage a tank in any way. They're just flesh and bone. The military would win eventually.

Aliens are tough cause it all depends on their technology and their goals. If they want to I'm sure they could destroy all life on the planet. Bio weapons, nukes, even just hurling a giant asteroid at us. They would probably want an undamaged planet to inhabit though so nukes and asteroid are probably out. Still I think they'd be far too advanced for us to even defend against. They could just sit in orbit shooting lasers at us and we'd just be waving white flags.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Friday, March 20, 2009 5:57 PM

Good luck on the tank. Tanks require a lot of fuel, ammunition, and infantry support to keep safe and running. When your enemy multiplies faster than you can be resupplied there may be the need to just bend over and kiss your own behind good-bye. In a world where transportation and shipping methods would be in complete upheaval fuel and ammunition supplies would be cut off in a short while. And the abuse the tracks would take. Not sure if I would want to pull out a whole tank crew to re-tread an Abrams with bitey folk about.

We are not the supreme beings we think we are. We did not cause global warming, the ending of an ice age did. Politics do not determine the outcome of humans and their survival, the Earth does. Whatever damage we could possibly do to this planet can be undone. It has been happening for billions of years and will go on for a few billion more without us.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

ZEEK

Friday, March 20, 2009 6:45 PM

There'd be fuel everywhere since there wouldn't be many cars driving around anymore. Plus military bases would most likely be just fine and they can send out supply choppers with relative ease. Even better is if these are the type of zombies who only come out at night we'd have all day to restock supplies and get back to mowing down zombies at night. I still don't see them as a credible threat.

I can't think of a single way we'd defend against aliens.

FREELANCERTEX

Friday, March 20, 2009 7:12 PM

why's everyone so obsessed with zombies again? is that how the world's gonna end in 2012? :P

NVGHOSTRIDER

Friday, March 20, 2009 7:21 PM

I am horrible at teh MaThz but one thing I grasped on to is exponential growth. The more people around you is boosts the danger potential to huge proportions. And it isn't just the dead walking about that should be our only worry. First responders will be the first to fall under the weight of casualties. They keep us safe, our roads clear, our utilities running. When the military gets involved it is already too late. National Guard forces may intervene in domestic situations but the actual military is hindered from doing so by the Constitution. By the time our heads of state can figure out what to do the military will have already suffered casualties; growing casualties.

And how many people would actually believe in a zombie outbreak? It is make believe. Out of the rhealm of possibility. Science tells us that alien life may exist. People lack the concept of the dead being a possible threat.

How many LEOs and soldiers will shoot American civilians in their own country? State? City? Neighborhood?

Superiority is our enemy. All the weapons available to us are next to useless when there is a lack of steady demenor and familiar hands.

I can honestly admit to making witnessed head shots at 250 yards with a 22 rifle. That is a paper target, not moving, no wind. The average American thinks they can handle a firearm but proficiency is not gained by seeing it in the media. Add fear, hunger, sleep deprivation, and emotional stress and any person can miss a target standing ten feet from them.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

MSA

Friday, March 20, 2009 7:26 PM

Sorry my bad FLT... I was just in the mood for a ponder that would draw out long discussions.

I think the zombie thing could be overcome if we can catch it at the start and wall off ( I mean gianormous 20 foor concrete walls) areas to pent he zombies until the residual electric charge wears out and then dump new zombies in... also if we moved swiftly enought to contain outbreaks and had a plan for decapitating all dead

Not sure about the aliens

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

FREELANCERTEX

Friday, March 20, 2009 7:44 PM

lmao, i love where this conversations going :P and im just observing.

[random subject change]guess what guess what!!!! phantom of the opera's coming to the bushnell and the bf and i are SO going!!![/random subject change]

not sure whether id prefer zombies or aliens. zombies i know we can kill, but what if the aliens that invade are impervious to injury? we'd be so dead. :P

ZEEK

Friday, March 20, 2009 7:56 PM

Zombie exponential growth? pssh! Their tactic is to outnumber us and overwhelm us. That means maybe one new zombie for every 10 - 20 of them. That means they're growing at 1/10 per kill and killing a person is not all that easy. We at least know how to run away.

Aliens have the potential to outnumber us far more. They have the resources of every other planet in the universe. They can show up outnumbering us a trillion to one if they want to.

A war of attrition goes to aliens hands down.

MSA

Friday, March 20, 2009 8:36 PM

ok but what if the aliens have some fatal weakness like water kills them or some such???

Or what if the reason they left their planet is their numbers have dwindles to only 8,000 aliens??

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

RHYIANAN

Friday, March 20, 2009 8:44 PM

Zeek, I must agree with NV. The military will be next to useless. By the time the leaders figure out what is going on, they will then argue to death what should be done about it. By the time they act, usually deciding to do the wrong thing, the military will already have been infected. True, they would have the skills to kill the zombies, but there are spouses and children on military bases as well. Do you really think that a man could kill his family if they were infected, especially if he had no idea what was going on? Honestly, I believe the bulk of people would be infected because nobody would know what was going on, simply walking into a situation where it would be easy to be overwhelmed. The Zombies would have numbers then and with every attack there would be less humans.

As for aliens having all the resources of other planets, if they are invading us, then one would assume that Earth can support their life. If Earth is the type of planet that they come from, there are very few planets like ours, compared to all of the planets there are. In addition, even if they populate 10 planets, they would have to get their people (term used loosely) here, which could be problematic. Nor would they send the entire population, which cuts the numbers a bit more.

Honestly, both have the potential to outnumber us and I don't see humans winning either way, as shown by my interpretation of the question earlier. I think the potential for living through the disaster is greater with the aliens because there is no one reason for the aliens to attack us, which makes discussion on alien invasion a bit problematic.

I'm a leaf on the wind

ZEEK

Friday, March 20, 2009 9:00 PM

Their reasons are not are part of the conversation though. They're invading. So they're hostile. That's all that matters.

As for fatal weakness like water. Even our astronauts wear space suits. Their technology is more advanced then ours so you can bet they at least have suits.

The military doesn't have to wait for congress to defend themselves. When their base is under attack they'll act. One guy might not shoot his zombie family but that doesn't mean the guy next to him won't.

Our only chance against aliens so far is a massive flaw which is like hoping the zombies are allergic to air.

FREELANCERTEX

Friday, March 20, 2009 9:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Rhyianan: As for aliens having all the resources of other planets, if they are invading us, then one would assume that Earth can support their life. If Earth is the type of planet that they come from, there are very few planets like ours, compared to all of the planets there are. In addition, even if they populate 10 planets, they would have to get their people (term used loosely) here, which could be problematic. Nor would they send the entire population, which cuts the numbers a bit more.

but what if they have a stargate? :P

NVGHOSTRIDER

Friday, March 20, 2009 11:56 PM

Wow. So many variables.

SO one story I was formulating took into consideration people who were in between the living and the dead. Kinda the hybrid alien/human thing as a form of evolution and adaptation.

Hybrid alien or hybrid zombie?

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

FREELANCERTEX

Saturday, March 21, 2009 12:34 AM

ooh, i wanna be a hybrid zombiealienhuman somthing.

LEOPARDFLAN

Saturday, March 21, 2009 12:42 AM

I'd like to be an alien/elf hybrid XD

FREELANCERTEX

Saturday, March 21, 2009 1:06 AM

well, part of you would still have to be human :P cuz u are

MSA

Saturday, March 21, 2009 1:08 AM

DO the aliens have nifty metabolisms that let them eat all they want and not gain weight??? 'Cause I'd like that

oooooh oooh and can they reproduce without morning sickness and the tons of other pains and indignities that come with it??

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

LEOPARDFLAN

Saturday, March 21, 2009 1:15 AM

I'm sure there'd have to be a type of alien in the 'verse that could do such a thing, yes.

NAVYSEILS

Sunday, March 22, 2009 1:34 AM

What if it was zombie-aliens... then we'd really be donald ducked.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, March 23, 2009 3:31 PM

Donald is right. Now I gotta adjust my plans. Thanks Navy.

Good morining Ponderers.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

MSA

Monday, March 23, 2009 5:02 PM

Wait now we're making plans to deal with a zombie Donald invasion???

The variables involved are very complex...plus the fact that he never wears pants kinda creeps me out.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

FREELANCERTEX

Monday, March 23, 2009 6:04 PM

LOLZ, very subtly perverted cartoon :P

please, no zombie ducks. *remembers zombie crows from resident evil and shudders* zombie animals are never a good thing

NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, March 23, 2009 6:18 PM

Found I will be going to Vegas with two kids on April 16, 17, and 18. Not happy but not mad. Just kinda bleh.

It could be worse. I am getting paid for the trip and I might get to fit in some shooting at a field on the evening of the 16th.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

ZEEK

Monday, March 23, 2009 6:19 PM

Well the vet says the kitty is doing much better. Not totally cured but one of the levels that was crazy high is down into the acceptable realm again. Another one is still double what it should be, but they think that means it was an infection and hopefully she can recover from it.

MSA

Monday, March 23, 2009 6:23 PM

Oh that's wonderful Zeek... HUGS

hmmm

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

FREELANCERTEX

Monday, March 23, 2009 6:38 PM

awesome, zeek ^_^

my car battery decided it wanted to die this morning, the bf thinks its bad terminals (even though its been running on the same terminals since before i owned it, but i know these things wear out) i think it mightve been the headlights draining it cuz it was overcast yesterday and i was driving with lights, but i don't remember turning them off (normally when i open my car door the dash will beep at me if the lights are on, but it hasn't been doing that lately probably because the switch is broken), but both the bf and i can attest to the fact that the lights weren't on last night, and he said i'd have to leave the lights on overnight to kill it. course, i'm wondering if the battery had burned out by the time night rolled around so the lights just went out because of lack of power ><;;
eighty bucks down the drain it looks like. tryna secure a voltmeter to check the battery, see if it's really dead. i love machines @_@

NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, March 23, 2009 7:28 PM

Any major auto parts store usually tests batteries and alternators for free. Give your nearest one a call to see if the do. If your terminal(s) or cable(s) is/are bad either the alternator will not fully charge the battery and/or the battery will not run the cars various operating systems at full charge. It will be much cheaper to diagnose the problem before buying a battery, cables, terminals, or an alternator right from the initial problem. Some places will let you do this to make a quick buck off the unknowing customer.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

MSA

Monday, March 23, 2009 9:18 PM

Listen to him FLT.. he's incredible with cars... all those bizzare jibberish words that car people throw about actually make sense to him.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

MSA

Monday, March 23, 2009 9:18 PM

Listen to him FLT.. he's incredible with cars... all those bizzare jibberish words that car people throw about actually make sense to him.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, March 23, 2009 10:43 PM

Ooh. Double posty goodness.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

MSA

Monday, March 23, 2009 11:12 PM

NV I blame Peanut..sucking out my brain cells

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

FREELANCERTEX

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:47 AM

thanks NV, the bf checked out the battery when he got home (always good to have a mechanic for a boyfriend ^_^) and jumped it with his car. he said the alternator was charging once Serenity started running and told me to either let it idle or drive it around a bit, so i drove it. retested the battery when i got back and said it looked ok, but the real test would be whether or not it would start in the mornin. i guess we'll see when the sun comes up ^_^ *crosses fingers that Serenity pulls through*

lolz, MsA i think its so cute that u call him (or her) peanut :P

MSA

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:49 AM

Actually it was NV that came up with the name Peanut ( til we know what gender)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

FREELANCERTEX

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 2:26 AM

i still think it's cute :P way to go NV ^_^

NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 3:26 PM

It's also still cold and all so that in itself will help kill a battery. If he's a mechanic he probably cleaned the battery posts and terminals which accounts for many issues with cold starting.

She was calling it a bean for a while but changed to peanut at my request.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

ZEEK

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 3:31 PM

Not a fan of beans?

And is there some sort of honey roasted peanut shortage? Seriously I can't find jars of them anywhere in austin anymore. All they carry is dry roasted. I don't even get jars of them often but for some reason I wanted one there weren't any. I've gotten so curious I've checked at Super Target and Super Walmart and nothing. Honey bees all died out or something?

NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 3:58 PM

Try gas stations and convenience stores. They have the litle packets of Planters, 2 for a dollar. I like the salty sweet without having too much sugar or salt. Not good for the bod. Plus protein from the peanut.

Arrrgghhhh. Peanut intensive morning.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

MSA

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:55 PM

Very Peanut intensive morning... porr NV didn't even get a happy birthday from me until I was halfway to work... The exhaustion and nausea blinded me..
Gonna make a fab cake and nifty dinner to make up for it

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:57 PM

Oooh, cakes and pies, cakes and pies!

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

MSA

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:44 PM

hmmmm

chocolate cake and pecan pie

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:47 PM

I take it you've never seen The Nutty Professor with Eddie Murphy.

Crazy wimmens.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

ZEEK

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:22 PM

Ponder: How do marketing people sleep at night?
Evidence: "Decorative jalapeño pepper design coordinates with any decor."
Reason I saw this: I love surfing the deals sites and I just had to see what a quesadilla maker is. Trust me it does not coordinate with any decor.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:46 PM

Funny, I've thought the same thing about most everything advertized on TV. What about the gadget guy that DOES NOTHING BUT SCREAM AT YOU.

BUY THIS FUCKING THING SO I CAN STILL AFFORD DYE FOR MY HEAD AND BEARD. I ALREADY HAVE TOO MUCH MONEY BUT BUY THIS THING SO I CAN KEEP AFFORDING HOOKERS WHO LET ME...

Eewww.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

ZEEK

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:56 PM

At least his lies are slightly more concealed. You might actually believe that oxyclean can get out stains from a shirt soaked in ink and dried in the sun for 3 months. You'd have to be an idiot but at least they try pretty hard to pull it off.

Though I guess it all comes down to greed. If someone can fleece someone else out of money and live with themselves then they'll do it. They probably just convince themselves that a fool and his money are soon parted and they're just getting their piece.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:05 PM

I've zoned out so much advertizement that it takes me seeing a commercial four or five times before it really grabs me. Even then I forget it in a short amount of time.

Like the gum commercial where the goat rams the dude in the guts to get him to spit out his old gum. I must have laughed at that commercial for two months before ever getting what it was for.

I've never been too well swayed by television commercials unless I was supremely hungry or really, REALLY wanted a beer.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

ZEEK

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:20 PM

Yeah I love how so many commercials never get the point across about what they're even advertising. Even some commercials that I like or find funny I can't remember what they're for.

MSA

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:23 PM

NV no I have not seen the Nutty Professor

Ok gotta lie down now... the throwing up has stopped and I am trying to keep it down

The shouty man annoys me

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
Ponder: How do marketing people sleep at night?

Most of them don't have souls at all anymore Zeek, so I think they just lose consciousness at night. Or cease to exist, I'm not sure.

This summer it'll be 10 years since I started looking, and so far I've found one marketing guy who still has his soul and yet also has an impressive resume. And I'm not sharing him!

(Happy Birthday NVG!!)

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

FREELANCERTEX

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:26 AM

SERENITY LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!! *throws confetti* whatever happened to her, it weren't nuthin big cuz after jumpstarting her we let her sit overnight and she still runs this mornin ^_^ and afternoon, and evening. teehee, i love my little firefly.

MSA

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:38 PM

Yay on your car:)

OK must lie down...I really need to keep this breakfast down

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

ZEEK

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:35 PM

So, lie down already! NVG I think we need to get you one of those beds with the straps they have in nut houses. Otherwise MsA will keep getting up to type "I need to lie down".

FREELANCERTEX

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:45 PM

lol XD eeeeasy zeek, or the peanut might have to kick your ass for harrassing his/her mother :P

preggie pops not workin, MsA? :\

you'd think we would have evolved out of morning sickness by now. the mother needs to eat to nourish the baby, but the baby being there somehow makes her nauseous (and often throw up what she's just eaten). kind of counterproductive, isnt it?

NVGHOSTRIDER

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:53 PM

Pops had to be ordered. Hopefully they wil be here sooon.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

ZEEK

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by freelancertex:
lol XD eeeeasy zeek, or the peanut might have to kick your ass for harrassing his/her mother :P

Eh I probably still have a few months before I have to worry about that. Plus it'll have a self destruct button for a while and I know the secret location. I could so take a baby in a fight.

FREELANCERTEX

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:57 PM

fun, saltines and soda it is then ><;; methinks they need to sell the pops in stores...would make sense :P or at least have em in doctor's offices n such.

MSA

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 6:03 PM

I'd think they would have come up with a cure , but it, like many thngs, fall under the heading " oh it's just part of pregnancy. We don't really know why it happens 'cause we don't research it...'cause it's part of pregnancy."

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

FREELANCERTEX

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 6:47 PM

well thats dumb :P lol.

RHYIANAN

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MsA:
I'd think they would have come up with a cure , but it, like many thngs, fall under the heading " oh it's just part of pregnancy. We don't really know why it happens 'cause we don't research it...'cause it's part of pregnancy."

Well, part of the problem is that if they research it and find something that suppresses the morning sickness, but that ultimately is proven to harm the child, then there's a huge class action suit. Fetuses are extremely sensitive, so finding a way to treat it that isn't harmful in some way to the child is the greatest challenge.

I think that nobody's done it for that reason, and that (and MsA is going to throw something at me for this) morning sickness is more annoying than harmful. Obviously since children are born every day, the mother can deal with it and manage to nourish the child adequately despite of the morning sickness.

I'm a leaf on the wind

MSA

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:57 PM

I won't throw anything... however that depends ( the able to nourish) there are a certain percentage of moms who get hospitalized do to malnourishment and dehydration from morning sickness..
Don't know as I'd describe it as annoying.. it's basically like having severe stomach flu all the time. You throw up all day and night and if you're not throwing up you're severly nauseous ( I especially love when I wake up at night and have to throw up) Does make for interesting meetings...gigglesnort.. " um excuse me I have to...( run for door)"
But yes it's hard to study pregnant women 'cause you don't want to have a negative effect on the baby.

So you should all feel really bad for poor NV who's having to do practically everything 'cause I'm too busy throwing up or lying perfectly still so I don't throw up.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

ZEEK

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:59 PM

Do you really think NVG wants to trade places? I think I'll stick with being sorry for you.

MSA

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:50 PM

awww HUGS thanks Zeek

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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