Imponderables: Saw Hell In A Dream
POSTED BY: nvghostrider
UPDATED: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 21:47
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Good luck on the tank. Tanks require a lot of fuel, ammunition, and infantry support to keep safe and running. When your enemy multiplies faster than you can be resupplied there may be the need to just bend over and kiss your own behind good-bye. In a world where transportation and shipping methods would be in complete upheaval fuel and ammunition supplies would be cut off in a short while. And the abuse the tracks would take. Not sure if I would want to pull out a whole tank crew to re-tread an Abrams with bitey folk about.
We are not the supreme beings we think we are. We did not cause global warming, the ending of an ice age did. Politics do not determine the outcome of humans and their survival, the Earth does. Whatever damage we could possibly do to this planet can be undone. It has been happening for billions of years and will go on for a few billion more without us.
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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn
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There'd be fuel everywhere since there wouldn't be many cars driving around anymore. Plus military bases would most likely be just fine and they can send out supply choppers with relative ease. Even better is if these are the type of zombies who only come out at night we'd have all day to restock supplies and get back to mowing down zombies at night. I still don't see them as a credible threat.
I can't think of a single way we'd defend against aliens.
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why's everyone so obsessed with zombies again? is that how the world's gonna end in 2012? :P
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I am horrible at teh MaThz but one thing I grasped on to is exponential growth. The more people around you is boosts the danger potential to huge proportions. And it isn't just the dead walking about that should be our only worry. First responders will be the first to fall under the weight of casualties. They keep us safe, our roads clear, our utilities running. When the military gets involved it is already too late. National Guard forces may intervene in domestic situations but the actual military is hindered from doing so by the Constitution. By the time our heads of state can figure out what to do the military will have already suffered casualties; growing casualties.
And how many people would actually believe in a zombie outbreak? It is make believe. Out of the rhealm of possibility. Science tells us that alien life may exist. People lack the concept of the dead being a possible threat.
How many LEOs and soldiers will shoot American civilians in their own country? State? City? Neighborhood?
Superiority is our enemy. All the weapons available to us are next to useless when there is a lack of steady demenor and familiar hands.
I can honestly admit to making witnessed head shots at 250 yards with a 22 rifle. That is a paper target, not moving, no wind. The average American thinks they can handle a firearm but proficiency is not gained by seeing it in the media. Add fear, hunger, sleep deprivation, and emotional stress and any person can miss a target standing ten feet from them.
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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn
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Sorry my bad FLT... I was just in the mood for a ponder that would draw out long discussions.
I think the zombie thing could be overcome if we can catch it at the start and wall off ( I mean gianormous 20 foor concrete walls) areas to pent he zombies until the residual electric charge wears out and then dump new zombies in... also if we moved swiftly enought to contain outbreaks and had a plan for decapitating all dead
Not sure about the aliens
To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.
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lmao, i love where this conversations going :P and im just observing.
[random subject change]guess what guess what!!!! phantom of the opera's coming to the bushnell and the bf and i are SO going!!![/random subject change]
not sure whether id prefer zombies or aliens. zombies i know we can kill, but what if the aliens that invade are impervious to injury? we'd be so dead. :P
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Zombie exponential growth? pssh! Their tactic is to outnumber us and overwhelm us. That means maybe one new zombie for every 10 - 20 of them. That means they're growing at 1/10 per kill and killing a person is not all that easy. We at least know how to run away.
Aliens have the potential to outnumber us far more. They have the resources of every other planet in the universe. They can show up outnumbering us a trillion to one if they want to.
A war of attrition goes to aliens hands down.
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ok but what if the aliens have some fatal weakness like water kills them or some such???
Or what if the reason they left their planet is their numbers have dwindles to only 8,000 aliens?? To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.
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Zeek, I must agree with NV. The military will be next to useless. By the time the leaders figure out what is going on, they will then argue to death what should be done about it. By the time they act, usually deciding to do the wrong thing, the military will already have been infected. True, they would have the skills to kill the zombies, but there are spouses and children on military bases as well. Do you really think that a man could kill his family if they were infected, especially if he had no idea what was going on? Honestly, I believe the bulk of people would be infected because nobody would know what was going on, simply walking into a situation where it would be easy to be overwhelmed. The Zombies would have numbers then and with every attack there would be less humans.
As for aliens having all the resources of other planets, if they are invading us, then one would assume that Earth can support their life. If Earth is the type of planet that they come from, there are very few planets like ours, compared to all of the planets there are. In addition, even if they populate 10 planets, they would have to get their people (term used loosely) here, which could be problematic. Nor would they send the entire population, which cuts the numbers a bit more.
Honestly, both have the potential to outnumber us and I don't see humans winning either way, as shown by my interpretation of the question earlier. I think the potential for living through the disaster is greater with the aliens because there is no one reason for the aliens to attack us, which makes discussion on alien invasion a bit problematic.
I'm a leaf on the wind
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Their reasons are not are part of the conversation though. They're invading. So they're hostile. That's all that matters.
As for fatal weakness like water. Even our astronauts wear space suits. Their technology is more advanced then ours so you can bet they at least have suits.
The military doesn't have to wait for congress to defend themselves. When their base is under attack they'll act. One guy might not shoot his zombie family but that doesn't mean the guy next to him won't.
Our only chance against aliens so far is a massive flaw which is like hoping the zombies are allergic to air.
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