Putin accuses US of meddling into FIFA affairs
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"You don't trust the US but are suddenly willing to trust their statements about future events."
Show me Brazil is being INVESTIGATED.
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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In Brenda's world of wrestling that's called a smack down. 
G
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Putin has hissy fit.
"Russia's investigative committee spokesman has demanded that an international investigation be launched into the U.S. 1969 moon landings, after a US-led investigation into the world governing body FIFA, cast doubt over the fairness of choosing Russia to host the next World Cup."
I say Russia should investigate. I'm sure they have the expertise and millions upon millions of dollars such investigation's would cost. They are calling for an investigation into our 1994 world cup sponsorship as well. I say they should do it and more power to them. Till then I suggest Putin stop crying into his Okroshka ( soup ).
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-demands-probe-into-us-moon-
landing/ar-AAbNWHp
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'G'
Once again - a failure to address my point. This is what you posted in response to the point I've made MANY times now, that the US is NOT investigating anything to do with how BRAZIL was awarded the World Cup:
FIFA arrests spur Brazil to probe soccer corruption
Did you notice that it's NOT the US - with its delicate moral sensitivities outraged by Russia - investigating anything to do with the rampant corruption that was the Brazilian-hosted World Cup?
You actually made my point for me, again.
The US wields a politically-honed knife when it claims it's seeking 'justice'. Because the corruption that was Brazil spurred no moral outrage, either then --- or now. Meanwhile, petty infractions by Russia are pursued vigorously, because, yanno, Putin ...
Yep. The the US practices the kind of 'justice' you all like best. The one where you hang first.
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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Quote:
Originally posted by G:Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-demands-probe-into-us-moon-
landing/ar-AAbNWHp
Too funny - man are they obsessed, seeing attacks everywhere. Obviously, if they are innocent (har har), they wouldn't need to waste their time with this pantomime.
Gee, I wonder what they'd *find*? Photoshopped pictures of Obama writing a check, magnification: Pay to the Order of: Sepp Blatter??
Don't they seem so very childish? I'm over simplifying but... I find Russian men to have a very immature, overly simplistic definition of masculinity, extreme male vanity. It's very 1st grade playground rules with some Rambo and other TV/Film cheesy machismo (70's) thrown in. How easily they get in a huff at anything the US does. Ukraine is a basic payback because Vlad was dissed when Yanukovych was run out of Kiev - someone stole his marbles. He is treated like a god in Russia, but when the rest of the world laughs he has a hissy fit. Little petulant, whiny dictator.
I find machismo is attributable to being underdeveloped emotionally and intellectually. Then of course there is the Napoleon syndrome. I think the latter is definitely one of Putin's afflictions.
I think one thing an intelligent person would realize is that the FIFA investigation conducted by the USA is based on what transpired within the jurisdiction of the USA and it's banking system. Naturally all other investigations would spin off of that, and not everything being investigated would come out all at once. Any investigation such as this one would be ongoing. However if what you seek is to deflect from the facts then you would do what Putin and 1kiki are doing. Try to get the world to believe that malice was the motive for the investigation and that the investigators themselves are just as guilty as those they are exposing.
Funny G, I don't recall you or I suggesting American business or America's representatives when negotiating for the cup to be played here are not guilty of payoffs. That no one in America was corrupted by doing business with FIFA over the years. If it comes out some here are guilty as well so be it. I won't be crying in my Okroshka ( soup ).
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Quote:Well, deep irony v sarcasm... I think they're close to each other on the same end of the spectrum. It was appreciated, whatever you call it.
If you are referring to my post, it was laced more with sarcasm. But I'm glad you saw it, I had thought it more obvious but my sarcasm button was dead.
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'G'
I leave it to you to count how MANY times you straw-manned my argument. Because this: It was the US investigations that spurred on the Brazilians was NEVER my point. Below are my posts, making one argument, which you straw-manned at every instance.
.. it seems like it's a long-standing situation the US suddenly decided had to be addressed RIGHT NOW! simply to disadvantage Russia (and punish anyone who refuses to get with the program).
That corruption has been ultimately overlooked in the past, and incurred no effective response, even with far more serious instances. Instances that SHOULD have warranted a major response. (like Brazil)
Also, you're right Signy - the DoJ doesn't get involved unless there's a political reason to do so. In this case ... Putin.
What I'm saying is that US interest in 'justice' is highly selective.
It didn't happen for severe, egregious reasons like with Brazil.
Except, back then, in time to help the millions of Brazilians who were impoverished even more by the corrupt, cozy relationship between FIFA and Brazilian politicos, and when it really mattered to the lives of a lot of people. Yanno, actual justice for hundreds of millions of actual people. What a concept. Maybe the DoJ could look into it.
Rather than now, as a political snit.
But why wasn't the corruption for the Brazilian WC enuf to get someone to pull the trigger? You keep evading that point, 'G'. And I'll keep bringing it up. Justice is supposed to be the same for everyone or it's not justice, it's something else. Don't you agree?
"Justice is supposed to be the same for everyone or it's not justice, it's something else. Don't you agree?" And let me just quote your response in context because it says everything about you anyone needs to know: "Are you really that childish?"
You couldn't bring yourself to agree with what should be an easy point of concurrence on a statement of ideals, even though we know we fall short in practice. You couldn't agree that justice is SUPPOSED to be the same for everyone.
You don't want justice, even as a ideal goal. And not especially if it gets in the way of 'justice'.
And to distract from your inability to agree, you resorted to pure ad hominem, which demonstrates (yet again) your lack of ethics.
Yes, it was everything important about you in one short sentence. It's not about freedom, or justice, or any ideal you do try to hide behind. Ideals? They're --- childish. It's about you being completely partisan. It's about sides. It's about 'your side' winning at all costs, no matter how.
Like I said, it was everything important about you in one short sentence.
"Justice is supposed to be the same for everyone or it's not justice, it's something else. Don't you agree?"
"Are you really that childish?"
Just more evasions of my question. Which I'll ask - again. If the US has such an overriding interest in justice, why not investigate the Brazilian world cup?
Actually, as is often the case with you, you demonstrated a complete lack of reading ability, thinking ability, and honesty. I know that some Brazilians (yes, more than 1) are being investigated. What I'll point out AGAIN - for the fourth (fifth? sixth?) time is that no charges have been laid about the BRAZILIAN WORLD CUP EVENT. Since there is no way I could be any more clear and explicit about that, perhaps you could be a little less illiterate, stupid and dishonest.
And here I'll repeat my question - if the US is SO interested in justice, why didn't THAT EVENT make it bestir itself and investigate?
... your own source - note CLAIMS not QUOTES, MA
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I noticed that G and THUGR has formed some kind of folie a deux* in which they reinforce each other's less-rational thought processes.
Both G and THUGR inherently believe that that USA is "right", moral, and correct, no matter how heinous or cynical its actions. At this point, they aren't ready to imagine that the USA is ever anything but pure in its motives. You're arguing with true believers who are incapable of seeing anything that is unfamiliar or uncomfortable.
"USA ALL THE WAY!"
Right, guys?
* French for "a madness shared by two"), shared psychosis, or "the theatric of two" is a psychiatric syndrome in which symptoms of a delusional belief are transmitted from one individual to another
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"Congratulations - your ignorance is impenetrable."
Thanks 'G'. I'll add this to my collection of your posts where you are incapable of addressing a simple point. This time you dodge it with ad hominem.
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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