Putin accuses US of meddling into FIFA affairs
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UPDATED: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 19:33
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Originally posted by SIGNYM: First of all, Putin didn't defend FIFA. Second, I didn't defend Putin. Misrepresenting others is such a habit with you guys, I'm beginning to think it's not just a mistake, or prejudice, it's sheer downright and deliberate dishonesty.
*After I stopped laughing...* So very Signym to claim an offense has been made against her and then in the same post do the same thing to others. Looks like KPO was the only one doing that in this particular thread, no one else.
Actually, it was all three of you.
Know how to read much? I said it was a HABIT with you guys, and therefore (one might think, from the meaning of the word "habit") you have repeated this behavior many times in many threads, not just this one. Was I responding to comments outside of this thread? YES, I WAS. So suck it up. The shoe fits...
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But speaking of deliberate dishonesty... we have pages of threads showing you to be Putin's/Russia's Defender in Chief - for about a year now.
Find where I "defended" Putin, or Russia. Quote me, son.
You see?
So, speaking of deliberate dishonesty (or maybe complete idiocy) ... you just can't help yourself, can you? In the very thread where I said that you routinely misrepresent what I say .... you take offence, and then you misrepresent what I say...again!
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Plus, if you don't see this as Putin defense of Blatter (worse than defending FIFA imho) then you are either lying or stupid:
“Our American counterparts, unfortunately, are using the same methods to reach their goals and illegally persecute people. I don’t rule out that this is the case in relation to FIFA,” Putin said. “I have no doubt that this is yet another evident attempt to derail Mr. Blatter’s re-election as FIFA president." So, Blatter = innocent, America = the devil.
In addition, you don't know anything about the American justice system ... or you don't care much about it.
"Innocent until proven guilty"? Have you heard of it? So, yeah- Blatter = innocent, until shown otherwise.
My god. You're such a fool. Time and time again, you accept a nation's ALLEGATIONS .... a nation, BTW, which has been shown time and time again to lie to achieve its ends ... and you never think TWICE about it. (Heck, you never even think ONCE about it.) You assume that Blatter- who BTW hasn't even been indicted - is guilty, just because Putin said something about him!
Must be guilt by association, huh?
You represent the worst of America, son: stupid, arrogant, hypocritical, moralistic, and vengeful. The same kind of unjust, unlawful, imperialist asshole that Kind George had become. The kind of powerful prig that our Founding Fathers were trying to prevent.
Yanno, I learned a lot about you from this little comment that you made to KIKI:
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Justice is supposed to be the same for everyone or it's not justice, it's something else. Don't you agree?-KIKI
Are you really that childish?-G
You think justice is childish.
That explains a lot about your behavior. None of it good. (And THUGR'S, and KPO's too.)
And I'll bet you were a schoolyard bully, too.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Actually, it was all three of you.
Ok - then it should be easy to show where I said you were defending Putin, yanno before your claim.
G,
SIG has taken up Putin’s defense in the abstract ( subtly ) by making comments that exist in common thought to his. Instead of making a direct statement of defense she takes up his agenda. The agenda you pointed to earlier. Putin trying to get out in front of the FIFA investigation by casting doubt on its intent. She is also doing this by presenting subjective ideas rather than sticking to the facts.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Actually, it was all three of you.
Ok - then it should be easy to show where I said you were defending Putin, yanno before your claim.
What I said was that you three have a habit of misrepresenting what I've said. And it seems that you just did (again).
However, your comment could best be described as "snark", not misrepresentation, so in THIS thread (up until recently anyway) you didn't. Your comment was
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So you could focus your usual anti-US rant there and at least be accurate (you're welcome).
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G, SIG has taken up Putin’s defense in the abstract ( subtly ) by making comments that exist in common thought to his. Instead of making a direct statement of defense she takes up his agenda. The agenda you pointed to earlier. Putin trying to get out in front of the FIFA investigation by casting doubt on its intent. She is also doing this by presenting subjective ideas rather than sticking to the facts.-THUGR
So now I'm "defending" Putin by saying "similar" things???
And you're ... what?... "defending" Obama by supporting his policies?
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kiki- But why wasn't the corruption for the Brazilian WC enuf to get someone to pull the trigger?
G- How do you know it didn't?
"Meanwhile, the Office of the Attorney General of Switzerland opened criminal proceedings against 10 unnamed individuals “on suspicion of criminal mismanagement and of money laundering” in connection with the controversial allocation of the 2018 and 2022 World Cups, awarded to Russia and Qatar, respectively."
Have any charges been laid regarding Brazil? No. There's your answer.
And this? G- 18 indictments, spanning 5 continents - 3 of those indicted or arrested Brazilians - is not a snit. Why didn't Brazil do something? South America Soccer Federation? Or any number of countries that were in the World Cup? Do you hold them up to the same demands? Just more evasions of my question. Which I'll ask - again. If the US has such an overriding interest in justice, why not investigate the Brazilian world cup?
kiki- Justice is supposed to be the same for everyone or it's not justice, it's something else. Don't you agree?
G- Are you really that childish?
Are you really that corrupt? Do you really think that the police power of the state should be selectively wielded for political ends?
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Hey G, did we come to the defense of the United States? I don't recall doing that. I only recall saying they were responding to crimes committed under the jurisdiction of the United States to clear up some confusion about their authority to act. It was implied by SIG in the beginning of the thread they did not. Subtly of course but none the less implied. Am I missing something here or is this just more of the same; bullshit.
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kiki- But why wasn't the corruption for the Brazilian WC enuf to get someone to pull the trigger?
G- How do you know it didn't?
"Meanwhile, the Office of the Attorney General of Switzerland opened criminal proceedings against 10 unnamed individuals “on suspicion of criminal mismanagement and of money laundering” in connection with the controversial allocation of the 2018 and 2022 World Cups, awarded to Russia and Qatar, respectively."
Have any charges been laid regarding Brazil? No. There's your answer.
And this? G- 18 indictments, spanning 5 continents - 3 of those indicted or arrested Brazilians - is not a snit. Why didn't Brazil do something? South America Soccer Federation? Or any number of countries that were in the World Cup? Do you hold them up to the same demands? Just more evasions of my question. Which I'll ask - again. If the US has such an overriding interest in justice, why not investigate the Brazilian world cup?
kiki- Justice is supposed to be the same for everyone or it's not justice, it's something else. Don't you agree?
G- Are you really that childish?
Are you really that corrupt? Do you really think that the police power of the state should be selectively wielded for political ends?
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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This discussion is very similar to today's Dilbert comic http://dilbert.com/strip/2015-06-07 This is what it says:
I'm Dick, from the Internet. I'm the guy who always says ridiculous, angry stuff. I misinterpret every comment you make as an absurd absolute and then I attack it like you are a moron.
Dilbert: That doesn't sound fun.
Dick: Wow. So you are saying everything in the world needs to be fun. Maybe you should do some research before you embarrass yourself like that again.
Dilbert: Hey! You ARE the Guy from the Internet!
Dick: I'm sending you Five Links that are not as relevant as I think they are.
Dilbert: You're famous!
The surprising reason the US is prosecuting the FIFA case
www.vox.com/2015/5/28/8677525/fifa-corruption-us-prosecution
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Jump forward to 6 minutes 40 seconds:
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
First of all, Putin didn't defend FIFA.
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Putin said even if “someone has done something wrong,” Russia “has nothing to do with it.” He then tried to portray the probe as a U.S. attempt to go after dissenters, likening the case to the persecution of whistleblowers Julian Assange and Edward Snowden.
“Our American counterparts, unfortunately, are using the same methods to reach their goals and illegally persecute people. I don’t rule out that this is the case in relation to FIFA,” Putin said. “I have no doubt that this is yet another evident attempt to derail Mr. Blatter’s re-election as FIFA president. We are aware of the pressure that he was subjected to in relation to Russia holding the 2018 World Cup.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/putin-accuses-us-of-meddlin
g-into-fifa-affairs/2015/05/28/69cd9ba6-051d-11e5-93f4-f24d4af7f97d_story.html
Second, I didn't defend Putin.
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Don't worry, I'm sure Americans will find SOME way to "make Russia pay" for FIFA corruption! (And that's a KPO Prediction®.)
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