Obama: We brokered a deal to transition power in Ukraine
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Originally posted by KPO Tuesday, September 23, 2014 1:30 PM
I never said anything about importing them - no, it manufactured them and hid the evidence. However, now that you mention it, I did also hear a theory that Saddam DID import WMD - secretly from the USA back in the 80s; and then when the US captured them in 2003 they covered it up. Personally I don't know if it's true or not, but I'm guessing you can't disprove it...
Well, yep. KPO = liar.
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Well, having failed to prove their points, whatever they were, because they seemed to wander between ...
the violent coup was a legitimate cry for liberty (even tho new elections were planned)
Yanukovich was a tyrant (Corrupt? Undoubtedly. Tyrant? Not so much!)
Russia invaded Ukraine (Kerry says if you want proof, don't ask the USA to prove its claims, look to social media!)
the USA is a 'helpful' meddler (Not counting the 5000+ dead and million displaced. But hey! At least KPO finally acknowledged that the USA helped topple the old government!)
.... and furthermore KPO being shown to have lied about his stance in Iraqi WMD (oh, and being about as batshit crazy on that as he is about Russia) it seems neither KPO nor MRG want to play anymore.
So now we can start talking about other real stuff, instead of entertaining such childish fantasies.
Since Obama's admission has come and gone, the real action is now in "Closer and Closer to Major Powers War" ... which is what the USA has been gunning for all along.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Among other hilarities, KPO also believes Iraq manufactured and possessed WMDs. You're not dealing with a rational, evidence-based mind. 1Kiki
Seriously???
Wow, I thought KPO was only twisted about Russia! SIGNY
Ask him yourself. I'm sure he'll be happy to tell you. 1Kiki
So, what about those Iraqi WMD, KPO??? SIGNY
Kiki is unhinged. KPO
No, I'm not unhinged, it's just that he's a liar.
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KPO
Tuesday, September 23, 2014 1:30 PM
I never said anything about importing them - no, it manufactured them and hid the evidence. However, now that you mention it, I did also hear a theory that Saddam DID import WMD - secretly from the USA back in the 80s; and then when the US captured them in 2003 they covered it up. Personally I don't know if it's true or not, but I'm guessing you can't disprove it...
Well done for providing a link for once Kiki! Now if only you had understood it properly...
By stating that maybe Iraq did have WMDs, and asking you to 'prove' otherwise, I was parodying you and Sig, and your refusal to believe in Russia's meddling in Ukraine. If you didn't get that at the time, you should have got it from my very next post, which was:
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Hey, I didn't say I believed any of these theories. Just in the absence of any PROOF, which you don't have, I refuse to rush to judgement...
There, you see how ridiculous I'm being? Demanding an impossible proof, and then hiding from a common sense conclusion (that there never were any WMDs) because of the absence of that proof? That's what you and Signy are doing.
It's not personal. It's just war.
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Good lord. Could Kiki/sig try a little harder to be obviously a moronic liar? Trying to say kpo believes in Iraq and nukes, based on that thread? Jesus. Dumbass!
And he/she/it wonders why intelligent people only show up to mock lol! Why try a real conversation when the sig troll lacks basic comprehension skills.
Thanks for the laugh kpo lol!
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So funny I had to post twice. ;)
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"By stating that maybe Iraq did have WMDs ..."
"... no, it manufactured them and hid the evidence."
Do YOU see a maybe in there krappy?
Neither do I.
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Let me rephrase: Then why aren't so-called Russian-affiliated security agents being investigated?
Last I heard the investigation against the SBU had stalled because:
1. They covered their tracks well (they're spies, this is what they do)
2. They're obstructing/not cooperating with the investigation (clearly some culpable people who participated or knew about the operation still work there).
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Where you will see the USA's hand quite often.
You see the USA's hand everywhere...
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There are also many stories (in western press) which discuss who they are. Many of them are coal miners, farmers, drugstore technicians... people from the area.
And many more of them are Cossack and Chechen mercenaries, Russian volunteers, and 'vacationing' Russian soldiers. Separatist leaders have publicly bemoaned the lack of local volunteers for the cause. You would know this if you didn't only consume pro-Russian media.
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Well, we did exactly the same thing in Venezuela.
You know that US mercs did the shooting in Ukraine because they did the same thing in Venezuela? And how do you know that it was US mercs in Venezuala? Because of your worldview of the USA as the great Satan, of course.
It's not personal. It's just war.
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But EVERYBODY'S poll numbers were low. It's not like Yanukovych was an exception.
The pro-Western vote was split between 3 or 4 candidates - that's the only reason Yanukovich was level with them.
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WHETHER UKRAINIANS SUPPORT EUROMAYDAN
Yes in general 45%
YOU claimed that Yanukovich had over 50% support at the time he was ousted. Showing polling numbers of support for the Euromaidan is not the same thing as polling of support for Yanukovich. Also the Maidan approval statistics you have chosen are not from the correct time period. Later statistics released in March, after the Kiev shootings and Yanukovich's flight to Russia, showed that support for the Euromaidan had risen significantly higher, to about 57% However you read it, Yanukovich did not have 50% support, or anything close to it, at the time he was ousted.
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KPO- You, MAL4, and GSTRING are so fucking childish it's pointless to continue this.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
KPO- You, MAL4, and GSTRING are so fucking childish it's pointless to continue this.
Look who's having a hissy fit.
Right. It's "childish" to point out how incredibly moronically wrong sig is. But rather than admit that, yes, she was way off base, she's gonna take her ball and go home in a huff.
This still is not my favorite, though. Kiki saying that I must be having a mental break-down is the hyperbolic "avoid understanding why people disagree with me" deflection of the year IMO. That was just awesome LOL!
Anything rather than admit you might be wrong, hey you two? Anything rather than actually having to *hear* what people are saying, rather than what you wish they were saying.
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