Hands up of everyone who thinks Bill Cosby raped his way through his career??

POSTED BY: Wishimay
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WISHIMAY

Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:40 AM

Yep. I do.

I read that Janice Dickenson has come out with it now, certainly might explain a bit of her behaviors. Someone suggested in the comment section that maybe that's why Lisa Bonet left the show too. He certainly sounds pervy enough to make me wanna leave.

It's sad, the guy was damn funny. But since I think most people are pure crap, not really tooo surprising. And it's funny now, the whole "black people need to hold themselves to a higher standard" comment from a couple years ago. Really damn ironic. Wonder if he felt like a hypocrite saying that, at all???

Also, does anyone know when rape kits became widely used? I thought it was early 90's, but not sure. All I know is these women are getting blamed for not going to get a rape kit done in the 70's and 80's which I don't think they had those then?? I know some of the more progressive departments did even in the fifties, but I thought that was rare?

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:58 AM

Dunno. I hope not. But I do find it curious that only after Cosby is the most vocal against the glaring failures of blacks, do these claims come out against him. Seriously, this man has seen the black community regress over the past 50 years, says something about it , and gets hit with these accusations .

Gibbs Rule # 39...

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Wednesday, November 19, 2014 12:59 PM

"Glaring failure of blacks.." ????????????????????

Fuckin' ell. No wonder there are riots in Ferguson.

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, November 19, 2014 6:55 PM

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
"Glaring failure of blacks.." ????????????????????

Fuckin' ell. No wonder there are riots in Ferguson.

Colossal disconnect. There's zero reason for there to be riots in Ferguson, but what Bill Cosby ( who is black ) says about other blacks in this nation is wholly valid.

( Silly intro to start, but he gets right into the point,soon after )

Blacks have already won many battles, and yet they fall backwards, and act as if every minor achievement they see today is some historic " first " . The Williams sisters ? Great story, but they're not the first blacks to break into the tennis world. Not by long shot. More homes broken up, fewer INDIVIDUALS making names for themselves, and more folks on welfare, more giving bogus excuses, wasting time on trivial matters. HE is saying that, not me, not 'whitey', because he's SEEN it.

Sometimes, the truth hurts, and it's easier to strike out at the messenger than to do something to make yourself better.

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:50 PM

Not to derail the pointless black vs white thing, but now he comes out and says Janice is lying. I think it interesting that he would come out and say that he didn't do THAT ONE, but not say anything about the others?

OLDGUY

Wednesday, November 19, 2014 11:07 PM

This next comment won't swallow easily either...but i own a successful business that serves the music entertainment industry. As such I enjoy watching people..both the famous and those who want to be in the game.

I have observed many many MANY a woman from obvious lap sitting and ridiculous levels of open tease, to some who just flat out pull their tops off stageside in order to gain favor or possible backstage access.

I've watched them pretend to be stumbling drunk..ie "hey.. I'm easy and availably vunerable" ...

and I've watched some who are far more calculating...high end dressing, working their way carefully through the system in hopes of landing a part of gaining access to the industry movers n shakers.

I've sat and talked with major artists who won't let a woman near them when they are on tour for fear of the damage to their reputation and legal liability.

So, do i believe ol Cosby is not the "all American dad" ?...yep.. he was an entertainer...given great privilege and opportunity, popularity, wealth, a lot of lonely road time and lovely women coming on to him in both subtle and not so subtle ways.

That facts may be that he preferred his "dates" to be a tad extra high and loose, doesn't negate the fact that the women had drinks and pills apparently, with him....I love the one story where one of the alleged victims even states that she had a glass of wine and complained of a tummy ache so he gave her a pill...yeah, right...like that's the truth.

Look, I get that some ladies are more innocent in this and that no amount of tease, etc warrants drugged rape...but 50 years down the road, trying to sort out who was ready to pull their skirt up a bit for Bill then, but didn't get what their big shot in the industry...maybe cause they couldn't sing or act worth a dang...vs women who truly thought they were somehow fortunate enough that the heavens had aligned themselves so that they were actually building a professional relationship with a major entertainer....naw...most of this is very old news..and great grandpa creeper Cosby ain't worth all the headline airtime that's being shed while hundreds die in our streets, and thousands die around the world..including attrocities that even a petty thief like Mal could not stand by and allow.

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, November 19, 2014 11:42 PM

I always think it's a good thing to bring people down a peg.

Am I going to ignore that he was possibly a serial rapist just because he was funny? Nope.

Am I going to pretend all of these women were loose and had it coming because they were really naïve and took pills way too readily?
Sorry, just don't buy that.

"Constand's lawyers produced 11 more women who claimed Cosby had assaulted them, bringing the total number of accusers to 13. The suit was eventually settled, and, as part of that agreement, the plaintiff agreed not to discuss her allegations publicly."

This was from an article I read this morning,(somewhere called "The Vox") and as of today we're up to 16 women. That's a whole lotta accusations, and I don't think it does anyone (besides the accused) any good to ignore them. Plus, it goes back to my argument that there are a lot more rapes and rapists in this country than people think. Some number estimate up to a million a year. Women need to know. They need to stop being so naïve and trusting and get a clue. So yeah, I'm glad this is coming out now.

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:11 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
"Glaring failure of blacks.." ????????????????????

Fuckin' ell. No wonder there are riots in Ferguson.

Colossal disconnect. There's zero reason for there to be riots in Ferguson, but what Bill Cosby ( who is black ) says about other blacks in this nation is wholly valid.

( Silly intro to start, but he gets right into the point,soon after )

Blacks have already won many battles, and yet they fall backwards, and act as if every minor achievement they see today is some historic " first " . The Williams sisters ? Great story, but they're not the first blacks to break into the tennis world. Not by long shot. More homes broken up, fewer INDIVIDUALS making names for themselves, and more folks on welfare, more giving bogus excuses, wasting time on trivial matters. HE is saying that, not me, not 'whitey', because he's SEEN it.

Sometimes, the truth hurts, and it's easier to strike out at the messenger than to do something to make yourself better.

Re Cosby. Not a lot to say. If there is evidence, bring it on. It wouldn't be the first time that someone in the entertainment industry felt they were given a no consequences card along with the fame.

Re you comments, Rap. Makes me sick, it really does. I hope you do not speak for the majority of Americans are a just an internet crazy, but if there are many more of your ilk, no wonder the riots.....

I'm not sure what's most offensive, I still recoil at the term 'blacks', but maybe that's a cultural thing here. But also lumping so many people in the one basket, cause you know I'm sure that there is no one basket for African Americans who may be poor, middle class, wealthy, powerful, disenfranchised, successful, hardworking, lazy, drug addled, athletic, moral, immoral. A bit as weird as lumping 'whites' together.

SECOND

Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:17 AM

"It is hard to believe that Bill Cosby is a serial rapist because the belief doesn't just indict Cosby, it indicts us. It damns us for drawing intimate conclusions about people based on pudding-pop commercials and popular TV shows. It destroys our ability to lean on icons for our morality. And it forces us back into a world where seemingly good men do unspeakably evil things, and this is just the chaos of human history." -- http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/11/the-cosby-sho
w/382891/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

AURAPTOR

Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:32 AM

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:

Re you comments, Rap. Makes me sick, it really does. I hope you do not speak for the majority of Americans are a just an internet crazy, but if there are many more of your ilk, no wonder the riots.....

Why ? And what do riots ever achieve ? Destruction of private property, usually by idiots from OUTSIDE of a community, who then leave, while those who remain are forced to pick up the pieces.

Reginald Denny. Ring a bell ? Look it up, if you need to. Completely innocent victim of that bullshit' social justice ' crap that the black agitators ( they're not leaders ) try and stir up.

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I'm not sure what's most offensive, I still recoil at the term 'blacks', but maybe that's a cultural thing here. But also lumping so many people in the one basket, cause you know I'm sure that there is no one basket for African Americans who may be poor, middle class, wealthy, powerful, disenfranchised, successful, hardworking, lazy, drug addled, athletic, moral, immoral. A bit as weird as lumping 'whites' together.

Well, I'll never use the hyphenated term for those w/ darker skin than I have. That nonsense is over a century old, and I'm sick and tired of the Left continuing to divide AMERICANS into sub groups, to pit folks against each other.

“There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all.”

“This is just as true of the man who puts “native” before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul. Our allegiance must be purely to the United States. We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance.”

“But if he is heartily and singly loyal to this Republic, then no matter where he was born, he is just as good an American as any one else.”

“The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English- Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian- Americans, or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality than with the other citizens of the American Republic.”

“The men who do not become Americans and nothing else are hyphenated Americans; and there ought to be no room for them in this country. The man who calls himself an American citizen and who yet shows by his actions that he is primarily the citizen of a foreign land, plays a thoroughly mischievous part in the life of our body politic. He has no place here; and the sooner he returns to the land to which he feels his real heart-allegiance, the better it will be for every good American.”

- Teddy Roosevelt, Oct. 12, 1915.

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/2010/05/teddy-roosev
elt-no-room-in-this-country.html

Would you rather I call them 'colored' ? The NAACP still stands for that.

WHOZIT

Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:46 AM

I'm beginning to believe he did, I've read over the years he likes to fool around, but this is just unbelievable...but I believe it.

WHOZIT

Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:48 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
"It is hard to believe that Bill Cosby is a serial rapist because the belief doesn't just indict Cosby, it indicts us. It damns us for drawing intimate conclusions about people based on pudding-pop commercials and popular TV shows. It destroys our ability to lean on icons for our morality. And it forces us back into a world where seemingly good men do unspeakably evil things, and this is just the chaos of human history." -- http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/11/the-cosby-sho
w/382891/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Who'd have thought Stephen Collins molested little girls, until he admitted it.

AURAPTOR

Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:10 AM

I had to look up Stephen Collins. Dad from 7th Heaven. Just damn. Played a preacher, didn't he ? I never saw the show.

I have no idea if Bill Cosby did or didn't do it. Being promiscuous doesn't make one a rapist. Being famous, even to a small degree, can get people more ...um, attention from the opposite sex. Or the same sex. Which ever.

WHOZIT

Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:17 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I had to look up Stephen Collins. Dad from 7th Heaven. Just damn. Played a preacher, didn't he ? I never saw the show.

I have no idea if Bill Cosby did or didn't do it. Being promiscuous doesn't make one a rapist. Being famous, even to a small degree, can get people more ...um, attention from the opposite sex. Or the same sex. Which ever.

Collins also played Commander Decker in "STAR TREK: The Motion Picture", he's been a lot of films and TV shows over the years.

AURAPTOR

Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:25 AM

Ah yes, Comamnder Decker. The proto type to Frakes' # 1.

But back to real life ...

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TMZ broke the story ... the NYPD was investigating at least 3 cases of alleged molestation or indecent exposure, but all 3 cases are so old authorities believe the statute of limitations have run.

But sources tell TMZ ... 2 NYPD detectives flew from New York to Seattle to interview the woman whom Collins admits on tape to molesting when she was 10.

Cops were not interested in probing the woman's story any further, but they were intensely interested in finding out if other, more recent alleged victims might have come forward.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/11/17/stephen-collins-victims-nypd-investigati
ng-child-molestation/#ixzz3JYldXfG1

So, it seems he's going through a divorce too ? But the wife's lawyers up and quit, so the trial is delayed ?

Man, not the best week ever for this guy.

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:

Who'd have thought Stephen Collins molested little girls, until he admitted it.

When he was asked on the set of ST:TMP what his favorite Star Trek episode was he said "What Are Little Girls Made Of?" NOW that answer makes sense. And on Tales Of The Gold Monkey, well I'm not going near that!

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, November 20, 2014 5:59 AM

Is is racist to heap all these accusations on a black guy? And a pioneer of black folks, as well.

AURAPTOR

Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:24 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Is is racist to heap all these accusations on a black guy? And a pioneer of black folks, as well.

' Drag a hundred dollar bill through a trailer park...' is how Serpent Head James Carville described Paula Jones.

Funny, that comment never gets used by anyone about the women when the Left attack.

I wonder why.

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, November 20, 2014 6:15 PM

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, November 20, 2014 6:15 PM

AURAPTOR

Friday, November 21, 2014 12:51 AM

Quote:
Whoopi Goldberg DEFENDS Bill Cosby over new rape claims as she expresses skepticism over allegations and asks: 'Why didn't accuser get a rape kit?'

Whoopi Goldberg wondered on 'The View' why Cosby accuser Barbara Bowman never went to the police

Ms Bowman told MailOnline that she didn't even tell her own mother about the assault for years

She came forward in 2005 following a lawsuit brought by another rape accuser

By MICHAEL ZENNIE FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 14:52 EST, 17 November 2014 | UPDATED: 15:04 EST, 18 November 2014

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2838255/Whoopi-Goldberg-sides-
Bill-Cosby-expresses-skepticism-sexual-assault-claims-didn-t-accuser-rape-kit.html#ixzz3JdkKGMgZ

I may have to rethink my position on the Bill Cosby matter now.

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Friday, November 21, 2014 1:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

Why ? And what do riots ever achieve ? Destruction of private property, usually by idiots from OUTSIDE of a community, who then leave, while those who remain are forced to pick up the pieces.

Reginald Denny. Ring a bell ? Look it up, if you need to. Completely innocent victim of that bullshit' social justice ' crap that the black agitators ( they're not leaders ) try and stir up.

methinks you miss the point of my comment.

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Well, I'll never use the hyphenated term for those w/ darker skin than I have. That nonsense is over a century old, and I'm sick and tired of the Left continuing to divide AMERICANS into sub groups, to pit folks against each other.

“There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all.”

“This is just as true of the man who puts “native” before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul. Our allegiance must be purely to the United States. We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance.” blah blah blah blahdy blah

so you're okay with the term black American?

AURAPTOR

Friday, November 21, 2014 3:56 AM

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:

so you're okay with the term black American?

Just don't use the hyphen, yeah.

That was a joke, fyi.

Yeah, I guess "most" Americans would prefer to say 'African-American', which is the current in a long list of 'preferred ' names. I'd rather just say 'Americans', and leave it at that, but blacks don't care for merely being seen as American. It's as much a political and cultural as it is racial. Probably more the former two now.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, November 21, 2014 4:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Whoopi Goldberg DEFENDS Bill Cosby over new rape claims as she expresses skepticism over allegations and asks: 'Why didn't accuser get a rape kit?'

Whoopi Goldberg wondered on 'The View' why Cosby accuser Barbara Bowman never went to the police

Ms Bowman told MailOnline that she didn't even tell her own mother about the assault for years

She came forward in 2005 following a lawsuit brought by another rape accuser

By MICHAEL ZENNIE FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 14:52 EST, 17 November 2014 | UPDATED: 15:04 EST, 18 November 2014

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2838255/Whoopi-Goldberg-sides-
Bill-Cosby-expresses-skepticism-sexual-assault-claims-didn-t-accuser-rape-kit.html#ixzz3JdkKGMgZ

I may have to rethink my position on the Bill Cosby matter now.

No kidding. Whoopi is never right. I must check things out as well.

WHOZIT

Friday, November 21, 2014 4:38 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Whoopi Goldberg DEFENDS Bill Cosby over new rape claims as she expresses skepticism over allegations and asks: 'Why didn't accuser get a rape kit?'

Whoopi Goldberg wondered on 'The View' why Cosby accuser Barbara Bowman never went to the police

Ms Bowman told MailOnline that she didn't even tell her own mother about the assault for years

She came forward in 2005 following a lawsuit brought by another rape accuser

By MICHAEL ZENNIE FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 14:52 EST, 17 November 2014 | UPDATED: 15:04 EST, 18 November 2014

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2838255/Whoopi-Goldberg-sides-
Bill-Cosby-expresses-skepticism-sexual-assault-claims-didn-t-accuser-rape-kit.html#ixzz3JdkKGMgZ

I may have to rethink my position on the Bill Cosby matter now.

Goldberg also defended Ray Rice, she'll defend any black guy that hurts women. If Obama beat a puppy to death in the Rose Garden, Goldberg would say the puppy had it coming...and it was a Republican.

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Friday, November 21, 2014 5:13 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

Just don't use the hyphen, yeah.

That was a joke, fyi.

Yeah, I guess "most" Americans would prefer to say 'African-American', which is the current in a long list of 'preferred ' names. I'd rather just say 'Americans', and leave it at that, but blacks don't care for merely being seen as American. It's as much a political and cultural as it is racial. Probably more the former two now.

All African Americans feel that way, do they?

Here's a totally unrelated to the post topic tidbit. I once met a Kenyan woman who worked in my industry and had written a lot about the African community and our industry. Most Africans who have settled here do not originate from Kenya, but Sudan, Somalia, Ethiopia etc. I asked her how these Africans perceived her, whether there was a divide because she was Kenyan. She told me that in Africa, no one identifies as African, but from the country of origin, and within the country of origin they identify according to racial and or/tribal affiliations. But once out of Africa, they tended to identify themselves as African and embrace other Africans regardless of the divisions that exist back on the continent.

So I wonder if the same thing applies in the US. When out of America, I doubt many would identify as being African American or black American, whereas as within the US they may identify with that culture. Just a thought.

JONGSSTRAW

Friday, November 21, 2014 8:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

I may have to rethink my position on the Bill Cosby matter now.

Yes, rethink. Even ponder for a spell. It's vital to have a carefully considered position on the important Bill Cosby matter.

JONGSSTRAW

Friday, November 21, 2014 8:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:

Goldberg also defended Ray Rice, she'll defend any black guy that hurts women. If Obama beat a puppy to death in the Rose Garden, Goldberg would say the puppy had it coming...and it was a Republican.

I don't care what she says on that stupid show. I loved her on Star Trek, in "Ghost", and a bunch of other movies. She earned a lifetime pass from me a long time ago. Actors and actresses should stick to acting, but if they do open their mouths and say dumb things in the real world it rarely bothers me.

AURAPTOR

Friday, November 21, 2014 10:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

I may have to rethink my position on the Bill Cosby matter now.

Yes, rethink. Even ponder for a spell. It's vital to have a carefully considered position on the important Bill Cosby matter.

It may impact my very life by which side I choose .

SHINYGOODGUY

Friday, November 21, 2014 1:49 PM

Really!?

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
"Glaring failure of blacks.." ????????????????????

Fuckin' ell. No wonder there are riots in Ferguson.

SHINYGOODGUY

Friday, November 21, 2014 1:54 PM

I get the feeling, from all the reports, that he used his on-stage persona to sneakily unleash his true creepy persona. These women felt relaxed, as he approached them under the pretense of helping them, to slip them a mickey.

That is the epitome of creepy.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
I always think it's a good thing to bring people down a peg.

Am I going to ignore that he was possibly a serial rapist just because he was funny? Nope.

Am I going to pretend all of these women were loose and had it coming because they were really naïve and took pills way too readily?
Sorry, just don't buy that.

"Constand's lawyers produced 11 more women who claimed Cosby had assaulted them, bringing the total number of accusers to 13. The suit was eventually settled, and, as part of that agreement, the plaintiff agreed not to discuss her allegations publicly."

This was from an article I read this morning,(somewhere called "The Vox") and as of today we're up to 16 women. That's a whole lotta accusations, and I don't think it does anyone (besides the accused) any good to ignore them. Plus, it goes back to my argument that there are a lot more rapes and rapists in this country than people think. Some number estimate up to a million a year. Women need to know. They need to stop being so naïve and trusting and get a clue. So yeah, I'm glad this is coming out now.

SHINYGOODGUY

Friday, November 21, 2014 1:59 PM

Yep, count me among the converted. He's a creep. How many women came out?

Saw the interview with the AP reporter whom he asked not to air that portion of the interview when he was asked about his past, in front of Camille, and they both looked like a deer caught in the headlights. I could almost sense Camille's skin crawling, as she gave that fake smile. It reminded me of the Penn State football coach's wife - what's his name - Sandusky. Same look on her face.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
Yep. I do.

I read that Janice Dickenson has come out with it now, certainly might explain a bit of her behaviors. Someone suggested in the comment section that maybe that's why Lisa Bonet left the show too. He certainly sounds pervy enough to make me wanna leave.

It's sad, the guy was damn funny. But since I think most people are pure crap, not really tooo surprising. And it's funny now, the whole "black people need to hold themselves to a higher standard" comment from a couple years ago. Really damn ironic. Wonder if he felt like a hypocrite saying that, at all???

Also, does anyone know when rape kits became widely used? I thought it was early 90's, but not sure. All I know is these women are getting blamed for not going to get a rape kit done in the 70's and 80's which I don't think they had those then?? I know some of the more progressive departments did even in the fifties, but I thought that was rare?

AURAPTOR

Friday, November 21, 2014 8:56 PM

SGG - how many would balk if a network reporter asked open ended questions about the sins done over a lifetime ? Maybe something done in your teens , twenties or what ever, when you're now 70 + ?

And if you the viewer already see the man as being guilty , your perception of him is prolly jaded.

SIGNYM

Friday, November 21, 2014 9:45 PM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Also, does anyone know when rape kits became widely used? I thought it was early 90's, but not sure. All I know is these women are getting blamed for not going to get a rape kit done in the 70's and 80's which I don't think they had those then?? I know some of the more progressive departments did even in the fifties, but I thought that was rare?

And an FYI, I know for a fact that rape kits were being used by at least the mid-70s, as my sister, who was a stat lab tech for a county hospital, was processing them at the time, and they were already in common use by then.

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JONGSSTRAW

Saturday, November 22, 2014 3:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

I may have to rethink my position on the Bill Cosby matter now.

Yes, rethink. Even ponder for a spell. It's vital to have a carefully considered position on the important Bill Cosby matter.

It may impact my very life by which side I choose .

AURAPTOR

Saturday, November 22, 2014 3:11 AM

Jongs ,it's the classic Catch 22.

If I believe Cosby, then I'm perpetuating the war on women, and promoting the 'rape culture'.

If I believe the women, then I'm a racist, and perpetuating that all black males are lookin' just to hump any female they can get their hands on.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, November 22, 2014 3:53 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:

Goldberg also defended Ray Rice, she'll defend any black guy that hurts women. If Obama beat a puppy to death in the Rose Garden, Goldberg would say the puppy had it coming...and it was a Republican.

I don't care what she says on that stupid show. I loved her on Star Trek, in "Ghost", and a bunch of other movies. She earned a lifetime pass from me a long time ago. Actors and actresses should stick to acting, but if they do open their mouths and say dumb things in the real world it rarely bothers me.

I tried to enjoy ST:TNG despite her presence. She ruined everything.

WISHIMAY

Saturday, November 22, 2014 4:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
SGG - how many would balk if a network reporter asked open ended questions about the sins done over a lifetime ? Maybe something done in your teens , twenties or what ever

Ask away. I've only had sex with one person, who I married, I've never done drugs of any kind, never been addicted to ANYTHING, or even had a serious car accident. I did punch someone in JR High though, if you really wanna know and he really had it coming. I honestly don't see how other people have such little self control in their own lives...

WISHIMAY

Saturday, November 22, 2014 4:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And an FYI, I know for a fact that rape kits were being used by at least the mid-70s, as my sister, who was a stat lab tech for a county hospital, was processing them at the time, and they were already in common use by then.

Interesting. They were processing for DNA or for blood type and hair matches? And was she in a major city?

WISHIMAY

Saturday, November 22, 2014 4:34 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Jongs ,it's the classic Catch 22.

If I believe Cosby, then I'm perpetuating the war on women, and promoting the 'rape culture'.

If I believe the women, then I'm a racist, and perpetuating that all black males are lookin' just to hump any female they can get their hands on.

Unfortunately, both stereotypes exist for a reason. Women CAN be mind boggleingly naive and there ARE a lot of black men who look to hump any female they can get their hands on. Why we still talkin' 'bout this?

P.S. How 'bout you take a stand, man, and not worry about who calls who what? I mean, you donna seem ta care the rest of the time, why start now?

JONGSSTRAW

Saturday, November 22, 2014 5:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

Jongs ,it's the classic Catch 22.

If I believe Cosby, then I'm perpetuating the war on women, and promoting the 'rape culture'.

If I believe the women, then I'm a racist, and perpetuating that all black males are lookin' just to hump any female they can get their hands on.

Yeah, those Catch 22's can be a real bitch.

JONGSSTRAW

Saturday, November 22, 2014 5:35 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:

.. and there ARE a lot of black men who look to hump any female they can get their hands on.

NEWS FLASH .... men of EVERY race, color, size, and shape are looking to hump women. Black men don't have a monopoly on being horny.

JONGSSTRAW

Saturday, November 22, 2014 5:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:

Goldberg also defended Ray Rice, she'll defend any black guy that hurts women. If Obama beat a puppy to death in the Rose Garden, Goldberg would say the puppy had it coming...and it was a Republican.

I don't care what she says on that stupid show. I loved her on Star Trek, in "Ghost", and a bunch of other movies. She earned a lifetime pass from me a long time ago. Actors and actresses should stick to acting, but if they do open their mouths and say dumb things in the real world it rarely bothers me.

I tried to enjoy ST:TNG despite her presence. She ruined everything.

That doesn't surprise me in the least.

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:42 AM

It seems a lot of men in the entertainment industry felt they could get away with anything, and for a lot of years did as they pleased. Now as victims feel like they may get some chance of justice, they are coming forward.

With Jimmy Saville, he held so much power they had to wait until he was dead.

WISHIMAY

Saturday, November 22, 2014 8:29 AM

They gave the old letch a standing ovation in Florida. That'll show him

Well, it's Florida. HOME of fucking crazy. And old bastards hoping if they give a reprieve to him maybe they get a pass...

WISHIMAY

Saturday, November 22, 2014 8:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

NEWS FLASH .... men of EVERY race, color, size, and shape are looking to hump women. Black men don't have a monopoly on being horny.

Thanks, Cap'n Obvious

WISHIMAY

Sunday, November 23, 2014 5:00 AM

We're up another one!

AURAPTOR

Sunday, November 23, 2014 8:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
We're up another one!

yeah, the 'me too!'s are coming out.

1KIKI

Monday, November 24, 2014 2:30 AM

You mean Bill Cosby, the black who made money pandering to racists by scolding other blacks on how awful they were? You mean blacks too can be hypocrites if there's money to be made?

Say it isn't so!

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

AURAPTOR

Monday, November 24, 2014 2:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
You mean Bill Cosby, the black who made money pandering to racists by scolding other blacks on how awful they were? You mean blacks too can be hypocrites if there's money to be made?

Say it isn't so!

Where did he ever 'pander to racists' ?

Show us where he scolded blacks on how awful they were ?

All Cosby has ever done is tell the truth. As much as it pains me, Jesse Jackson and
Louis Farrakhan have chided the black community for very much the same things as Cosby. Why ? Because they know of what they speak on this matter. Self pity and apathy are like a cancer, a sickness that is keeping the black community from being what it could be.

Think Jesse and Louis are 'pandering to racists' ? Well, perhaps, but not those of the lighter skin color. The message of making better choices for a better future, taking control of your own life isn't telling folks how awful they are, but how much more they can be !

Sad that your little world view can't comprehend such a vision.

JONGSSTRAW

Monday, November 24, 2014 4:18 AM

93% of black murders are committed by other blacks. FACT, but don't say it.

72% of blacks are born out of wedlock. No mom AND dad to raise junior. FACT, but don't say it.

66% black HS dropout rate. HS dropouts are five times more likely to end up in poverty than graduates. FACT, But don't say it.

50% black youth unemployment, a recipe for disaster. FACT, but don't say it.

Black adult unemployment rate is three times national average. Not only has Obama done nothing to help blacks, his economy has actually made it the worst they've had in fifty years. FACT, but don't say it.

1KIKI

Monday, November 24, 2014 4:27 AM

I'm sure both of you can back up your statements.
And Jong - what percentage of whites are murdered by other whites?

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

WISHIMAY

Monday, November 24, 2014 5:33 AM

This is what I remember from a decade ago.
http://walt.mercersburg.net/me/resources/stopBlaming.html

2/3 of the way down "Young girls have no business having sex"

I guess you should know, eh Bill? Guess he didn't consider it sex. Relations committee?

Supposedly, the guy that guarded the room where he raped these girls has come forward and admitted what they did.

How the hell did he or half of these women NOT end up with Aids or something else???

EDIT: I read through the whole thing again. It's just EPIC level hypocracy.

Auraptor, if you are STILL defending this guy, and not just to argue something,

PLEASE STOP. He's a massive idiot.

JONGSSTRAW

Monday, November 24, 2014 8:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay

EDIT: I read through the whole thing again. It's just EPIC level hypocracy.

Actually, that looks more like EPIC level bad spelling.

1KIKI

Monday, November 24, 2014 11:05 AM

Actually, that looks more like EPIC level avoiding the topic.

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

WISHIMAY

Monday, November 24, 2014 6:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Actually, that looks more like EPIC level bad spelling.

Putting an A instead of an I is EPIC to you??? You realize I have a learning disorder right?? You know what you can do with your friggin' A???

JONGSSTRAW

Monday, November 24, 2014 8:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Actually, that looks more like EPIC level bad spelling.

Putting an A instead of an I is EPIC to you??? You realize I have a learning disorder right?? You know what you can do with your friggin' A???

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay

EDIT: I read through the whole thing again. It's just EPIC level hypocracy.

Actually, it's more than just the "a", it's the second "c" too.

WISHIMAY

Monday, November 24, 2014 10:29 PM

Moron.

JONGSSTRAW

Monday, November 24, 2014 11:05 PM

You spelled 'moron' correctly! It's a start.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:27 PM

WISH, to answer your ??? - no, DNA was not being used then.

AFA Bill Cosby is concerned, I withhold judgment. A lot of people can say a lot of things, especially many years after the fact. And since Cosby has SO CLEARLY been warned by his lawyers not to say anything, he is required to be mute even if accused by 100 women.

I believe the statute of limitations has run out on the rape charges, but there should be a competent investigation where all of the facts can be presented and disputed, witnessed called who testify under oath, and .... no, that doesn't mean in the press.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, November 26, 2014 9:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
You know I was just rewatching "Jumping Jack Flash" a few nights ago and Stephen Collins is in that. Made me watch him with new eyes.

My dad looked like him, but when he got cancer he shrank a bit and started to look like Bruce Willis now(it's the dimples, I think), but he always liked the guy (Collins)because he reminded him of himself (that "what if" my life had turned out differently moment...) Some ways I'm glad he wasn't around to see THAT, and in others I think dad would have been happy to know for sure what happens when absolute power corrupts absolutely...

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, November 26, 2014 10:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

AFA Bill Cosby is concerned, I withhold judgment. A lot of people can say a lot of things, especially many years after the fact.

Yes, but a LOT of people HAVE said something at this point. The balance of probability lies with Cosby being a rapist. Whether or not the girls said something or just hoped to get a career out of it doesn't change the fact that he DRUGGED them and had sex with them when they were incapable of giving consent. It's still RAPE. Some people are just waaaaay more ok with being raped than I ever would. If I were raped and the police do nothing, I would happily have hubby hold the person down while I performed a very, very slow "Bobbiting".

To each their own....

OONJERAH

Friday, November 28, 2014 9:28 AM

Hoping to put it to rest, I wrote this summary to myself today:

Currently, the media is having a feeding frenzy about accusations of rape against Bill Cosby. BC is one of the most famous negroes in America, and everyone from my generation onward is familiar with him: he's more famous than the president. He's a very popular & respected entertainer. But he may have a Mr. Hyde side. Now & back in 2006, numerous women have accused him of rape. No one who likes him wants to believe it. Far as I've heard to date, there's no physical evidence, no eye witnesses. These rapes are said to have happened 60's-80's, when he was most successful-famous. ... I don't want to devote time to this. I wanna dump it & go on. The evidence is all verbal. Many victims spoke up; now even some men are getting on board: there were a few who watched his back while he was having fun, & perhaps didn't know it was rape. There were more, reporters (for Pete's sake!) who got a whiff of it, but didn't track it down. Hollywood has always generated heaps of scandal, loving every minute of them. Hard to believe that the reporters didn't run with this one.* ... Now commentators are saying, "Well, those were the times." Back in those days, rape wasn't reported much. If it was, the victim was mostly ignored, disbelieved. Me: Men, in general (not all of them), have always had a defense for this accusation: A united front of denial reinforced by ridicule.** ... It's not just that he's being exposed after all these years. It's that his public image is the exact opposite. He's been a paragon of decency, a preacher for responsibility. Hypocrisy doubles the reaction. Most of us admired him; so we're all betrayed if the rap is true.

Me ... I find the weight, spread & pattern of the stories to be convincing. Not only that, either ... couple years ago listening to one of his old stand-up comedy routines, I suddenly saw him as essentially an abusive person. Others have published links to a routine where, they claim, he jokes about using Spanish Fly.

* They didn't cover up Fatty Arbuckle's fatal rape of Virginia Rappe, 1921. An American moment between chaste Puritanism and flamboyant Flappers.

**See remarks made recently on this board about "cleat chasers."

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

Part of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at.

OONJERAH

Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:34 AM

Some great observations by Whedon on feminism, on strong women and their opposition.
And since rape is misogynistic, it's on topic.

Joss Whedon: “Every time I’m confronted with true misogyny, I’m stunned”
The "Firefly" creator reflects on Gamergate, his upbringing as a feminist
and where our culture goes from here.
http://www.salon.com/2014/11/06/joss_whedon_every_time_im_confronted_w
ith_true_misogyny_im_stunned_partner/

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

Part of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at.

JO753

Friday, December 12, 2014 2:06 PM

geebublapodoodle Jello Pudding gobbledy. sommorizin aljibri!

I never really got why hiz schtick wuz so popular.

Unfortunately, the real lesson to be learned here will not be learned.

Our celebrity worship & rewarding sekses with all manner uv goodyz will continue. The public will still pay attention to the 'wizdom' uv their favorit actorz, sports starz, muzicianz, televanjelists, radio blathererz, no matter how inane, false or just plain useless it iz.

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JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, December 28, 2022 10:22 AM

Whoopi Goldberg again claims Holocaust wasn't originally about race

https://www.msn.com/

Bill Cosby is sued by five women for 'drugging, groping and raping them' as far back as 1969 - as survivors take advantage of a new window of opportunity to file historic cases

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11510341/Five-actresses-sue-C
osby-drugging-groping-raping-far-1969-NBC.html