Minimum Wage

POSTED BY: Trixy
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TRIXY

Saturday, October 25, 2014 7:49 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by Trixy:

Please enlighten me on how giving extra money to consumers while being completely in line with inflation will cost thousands of jobs....

First of all, it's not the Govt's money to GIVE. It's the businesses which employ the individuals. If the govt truly wants to give folks back some of THEIR money, then they should lower taxes.

Oh, those making only min wage don't PAY any effective Federal income tax. In fact, they GET money, from others, via the " EIC ", aka $ transfer, from those who have, to those who don't.

But this topic has veered wildly off the thread topic. We can pick up this matter elsewhere, if you like.

Again, welcome to FFF.Net.

Good idea! It felt odd posting in an internet topic on this matter!

Managing minimum wage is an essential part of keeping the economy healthy. The government messing with it is no different than the government adjusting interest rates.

Also, I just don't seem to get where you are coming through. Here you are, mention EIC, which is a form of welfare- the VERY SAME SYSTEM that is encouraged by having a minimum wage that is below a living standard. Additionally, as someone who actually has had to work through college, I can assure you that I'm not getting any help from the government in the for of welfare, food stamps, or other aid.

You seem to place workers of minimum wage jobs in a separate category from the rest of society- which boggles me as we all have had to start somewhere. We are talking about 28 million people benefiting from the wage raises. Raising minimum wage isn't going to encourage people to hold that same low-level job for the rest of their life. However, it might just encourage those who are unemployed to grab a job in-between looking for another career, as the job (with a living minimum wage) would be worth more than unemployment pay is.....

Raising wages encourages consumer spending, employment, and wealth promotion; the last part being especially important given the disappearance of the middle class and the growing wealth gap.

Finally, it isn't like the government in passing a wage raise would be hunting down small businesses. As surveys have shown that the majority of small businesses not only support a raise in minimum wages, but already tend to employ higher wages in order to encourage workers away from corporations in the first place. In other words, for the vast majority of places, it would be business as usual.

JONGSSTRAW

Saturday, October 25, 2014 8:08 AM

My first job paid $1.65 an hour. When I broke through the $2.00 an hour threshold I thought I was rich. That was a long time ago. Prices are insane these days, up about tenfold from my teenage years. I think the minimum wage should be increased to something like $12-$15.

JO753

Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:11 AM

The rich peeps running corporationz are nearsited. They see only to the next quarter stock report, so increased labor cost looks bad to them. The idea that the poor and lower middle class will buy more stuff kuz they need it and will now hav the money iz too far in the future and too complicated for them.

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AURAPTOR

Saturday, October 25, 2014 6:12 PM

Having had to work 3 part time jobs AFTER COLLEGE for a time, it's not that I don't value min wage workers, its that people get the false impression that the 'min wage' is suppose to be permanent or long term. It's for entry level employees. And if you find yourself in a situation where you can't get a raise, or more hours, you prolly should get a 2nd job. Or a 3rd. It's not up to every business to bring new people on and pay them top $, from day 1. The employees have to prove their worth - TO THE COMPANY - or be replaced.

Don't like that scenario ? There are options. Make better grades. Choose a field which pays well. Get recruited by big time companies. Start your OWN business.

JONGSSTRAW

Saturday, October 25, 2014 7:10 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Having had to work 3 part time jobs AFTER COLLEGE for a time, it's not that I don't value min wage workers, its that people get the false impression that the 'min wage' is suppose to be permanent or long term. It's for entry level employees. And if you find yourself in a situation where you can't get a raise, or more hours, you prolly should get a 2nd job. Or a 3rd. It's not up to every business to bring new people on and pay them top $, from day 1. The employees have to prove their worth - TO THE COMPANY - or be replaced.

Don't like that scenario ? There are options. Make better grades. Choose a field which pays well. Get recruited by big time companies. Start your OWN business.

We interact with minimum wage earners all the time, and then we get pissed when the service sucks. I say pay the people well and everyone will be better off. If my burger costs a dime more, so what. If Shell and Mobil only make $39 billion a quarter in profit instead of $40 billion, so what.

AURAPTOR

Saturday, October 25, 2014 7:27 PM

Go work for big oil then.

JONGSSTRAW

Saturday, October 25, 2014 7:41 PM

No thanks. I'm semi-retired now. Another year or two and I'll be totally out of the rat race. Gonna ride my old Schwinn bike and smell the flowers. It'll be glorious.

AURAPTOR

Saturday, October 25, 2014 8:04 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
No thanks. I'm semi-retired now. Another year or two and I'll be totally out of the rat race. Gonna ride my old Schwinn bike and smell the flowers. It'll be glorious.

As you were.

We are the sum of our own choices.

Too few want to admit that basic truth.

TRIXY

Sunday, October 26, 2014 6:37 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Having had to work 3 part time jobs AFTER COLLEGE for a time, it's not that I don't value min wage workers, its that people get the false impression that the 'min wage' is suppose to be permanent or long term. It's for entry level employees. And if you find yourself in a situation where you can't get a raise, or more hours, you prolly should get a 2nd job. Or a 3rd. It's not up to every business to bring new people on and pay them top $, from day 1. The employees have to prove their worth - TO THE COMPANY - or be replaced.

Don't like that scenario ? There are options. Make better grades. Choose a field which pays well. Get recruited by big time companies. Start your OWN business.

Listen. This basically boils down to this question: Do you believe that full-time workers, those who work the same amount of hours as anyone else in a job, should be paid enough to afford to survive?

If your answer is yes. Then you inevitably believe in a minimum wage raise. Regardless of your beliefs in the permanence of the work, you must acknowledge that work is work, and that it is fair that those who work be paid fairly for their work.

THGRRI

Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:10 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Having had to work 3 part time jobs AFTER COLLEGE for a time, it's not that I don't value min wage workers, its that people get the false impression that the 'min wage' is suppose to be permanent or long term. It's for entry level employees. And if you find yourself in a situation where you can't get a raise, or more hours, you prolly should get a 2nd job. Or a 3rd. It's not up to every business to bring new people on and pay them top $, from day 1. The employees have to prove their worth - TO THE COMPANY - or be replaced.

Don't like that scenario ? There are options. Make better grades. Choose a field which pays well. Get recruited by big time companies. Start your OWN business.

What you think minimum wage is supposed to be rappy is not what it is at all. That is the first thing that is wrong with your premise. The rest of it is just moronic. Most minimum wage works are working mothers.

Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me. It's like your knowledge base is no more than that of a 12 year old. You went to college my ass...

rappy

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