Gun Rights Advocates Please explain how the hell this happened
POSTED BY: FutureMrsFIllion
UPDATED: Monday, July 10, 2023 16:51
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Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Why revive a thread nearly 6 years old????
Original post October, 2006.
What, real world CURRENT events not interesting enough for ya?
The narrative of the day, that being the REALITY of national and global politics got ya down, so you have to revert back to " better days " ?
I guess we should outlaw swimming pools and lakes too, while we're at it.
Overview
Every day, about ten people die from unintentional drowning. Of these, two are children aged 14 or younger. Drowning ranks fifth among the leading causes of unintentional injury death in the United States.1
How big is the problem?
From 2005-2009, there were an average of 3,533 fatal unintentional drownings (non-boating related) annually in the United States — about ten deaths per day. An additional 347 people died each year from drowning in boating-related incidents.2
About one in five people who die from drowning are children 14 and younger.2 For every child who dies from drowning, another five receive emergency department care for nonfatal submersion injuries.1
More than 50% of drowning victims treated in emergency departments (EDs) require hospitalization or transfer for further care (compared with a hospitalization rate of about 6% for all unintentional injuries).1,2 These nonfatal drowning injuries can cause severe brain damage that may result in long-term disabilities such as memory problems, learning disabilities, and permanent loss of basic functioning (e.g., permanent vegetative state).3,4
http://www.cdc.gov/HomeandRecreationalSafety/Water-Safety/waterinjurie
s-factsheet.html
Okay, so you agree that shit happens and kills kids.
I have a question for you (don't worry, I know you won't give any kind of honest response, because you can't):
Was this death a result of the parents' choice?
Simple yes or no, please, if you could.
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Be less vague, please, when asking about 'this' death.
And why does it even matter if the deaths were of the parent's choice ?
How is that even relevant ?
Also, thanks for showing a full lack of any sense of humor, by totally missing my Anakin Skywalker reference.
Dork.
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2008, not 2006.
I'd be interested in the orijinal story. Unfortunately the link duznt lead to it anymore.
How do you equate gunz with playing in water? Thats the sam mistake az comparing gunz to carz.
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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early
http://www.nooalf.com
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I agree 1000%
Why didn't the instructor help with holding the gun?
Actually, the better question, what possible sense does it make to instruct an 8 year-old on the fine points of shooting an Uzi? Is she going 'coon hunting?
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
"Gun Rights Advocates Please explain how the hell this happened"
Hello,
The father was a dumbass, and so was the range master.
Like most tragic, avoidable deaths, a dumbass was involved.
It's less a gun issue than it is a dumbass issue.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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OK. My bad ... Shoulda clarified.
The OP is about an 8-yr-old boy in 2008:
Christopher Bizilj shot himself dead with an Uzi at a gun show in Mass.
"The teenager who worked at a gun show where 8-year-old Christopher
Bizilj accidentally killed himself while shooting an Uzi testified today he
twice suggested the boy's father pick a less powerful weapon for the
boy to shoot."
That report from Jan 2011, trial of the man who organized the gun show.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/father-christopher-bizilj-died-firing-uzi-urg
ed-son/story?id=12565132
At the time, I felt the incident was apalling and instructive.
My bump is a NEW story yesterday. A shooting instructor, perhaps
unfamiliar with the Bizilj story, hands an Uzi to a 9-year-old girl,
and now HE is dead.
Thus my remark about our reluctance to learn.
I actually think these events are relevant. And Darwin Awards are appropriate.
for JO753: The Bizilj story from the Crime Library:
http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/not_guilty/edward-fleury
/a-fun-day-at-the-range.html
... oooOO}{OOooo ...
Bumpity-bumpity-bump.
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Aw, I miss Kwicko
And yeah, what the fuck with the 9 year old being given such a weapon to use. Unbelievable.
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Opinion:
Why is a 9-year-old firing an Uzi?
By Mel Robbins
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/27/opinion/robbins-why-was-child-firing-uzi
/?sr=google_news&google_editors_picks=true
"This, of course, isn't the little girl's fault; was it even her idea to
shoot an Uzi in the first place? It's the instructor and the parents
who are to blame -- I mean, what could possibly go wrong if you
hand an Uzi with the selector on fully automatic mode to a
9-year-old?
For anyone who asks "What were they thinking?" the answer is:
They weren't. That's why the law needs to change -- to protect
kids from adult stupidity."
... oooOO}{OOooo ...
If Sense was Common, everyone would have some.
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I just keep thinking about these poor kids, how they must have felt afterwards... panic and guilt and fear. I mean accidentally killing someone at NINE? That'll screw ya up for life. I feel guilty when I hit a bunny on the road, let alone....
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xanks, Oonjerah. I read all 8 pajez uv the crime library account. Terrible.
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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early
http://www.nooalf.com
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Yes, when I first heard about this recent incident I immediately remembered the former one from the original post here.
And my opinion ain't changed a whit, negligent dumbassery in the lethal extreme.
Full auto weapons are noteworthy for potent recoil and muzzle climb, and none more so than the Uzi, Micro Uzi and Mac10 series because they lack the mass and weight to counter it like larger weapons do - one of the reasons it's even possible to hip-fire an M60 is because it's so bloody HEAVY, especially the earlier models.
There is NO sane reason (outside of a desperate life-or-death situation) that someone without the physical strength and/or mass to control a weapon properly should be firing one whatsoever.(1)
The APPROPRIATE firearm for a child of single-digit age is the Crickett 22LR, and then one can work up from there - but I would no more let a young child handle an Uzi than I would let a 15yr old on a learners drive a Bugatti Veyron.
http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?i=GM416108
Again, a completely *avoidable* tragedy directly resulting from the negligence of the instructor and range officer, who should by no means have allowed this.
(1) - It's for this very reason I've had to "retire" my drum-fed Saiga-12 as I can no longer safely operate it, alas.. still holding onto it for collection value though.
And speaking of age/size appropriate armament, my ex is a little miffed over little Rin-zillas first birthday present from me....
16.5" Foam Safety Axe
http://www.amazon.com/US-Toy-16-5-Foam-Safety/dp/B00HVHBCSE/
-Frem
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