Another Unarmed Black Teen Killed
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Has everybody been celebrating the glorious funeral presided over by Alby Sharpieton, who was able to fit this in before his next big fundraiser for ISIS (errr, I mean the American translation for ISIS, AKA CAIR, which funds ISIS)?
Praise Glory be!!
No instigator here, nossirree!
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Quote:Are you being sarcastic? Or just ordinary slanderous? Right-wing radio host Laura Ingraham does says CAIR equals ISIS but she don't care what bull she says when she gets rolling on the radio. http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/08/11/laura-ingraham-defies-reality-
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Has everybody been celebrating the glorious funeral presided over by Alby Sharpieton, who was able to fit this in before his next big fundraiser for ISIS (errr, I mean the American translation for ISIS, AKA CAIR, which funds ISIS)?
Praise Glory be!!
No instigator here, nossirree!
suggests-muslim-l/200384
(WASHINGTON, DC, 7/7/2104) -- The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the nation's largest Muslim civil rights and advocacy organization, today condemned as "un-Islamic and morally repugnant" violence and hostilities perpetrated by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and repudiated those who encourage Americans to join that and other extremist groups. -- www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/12551-cair-condemns-isis-viol
ence-and-rejects-calls-to-join-extremists-fighting-abroad.html
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Magonsdaugther
I am talking about what needs to be done today. You seem to think you can do what you point out to a population with little consequence to the mental health of the population. What is going on in the black community is a direct result of 400 years of oppression. Yes we are a world class power but as you see, so far we have been powerless to effect change. We have a damaged community whose advancement depends on some form of change from within. More and more, black community leaders are realizing without those necessary changes things are destined to remain the same.
You talk about the Aboriginal people as though they suffered in a way that was different from the way the black community has suffered here. The list of grievances you point to match verbatim what happened to blacks in this country and others. The one difference being African Americans were brought here from abroad. How that affected Africans is a subject for another thread. You talk about Aborigines not getting the right to vote untill 1967. Here the Civil Rights Act was enacted in 1964. It was in 1963 that Martin Luther King gave his, I have a dream speech. I remember vividly the fire hoses, police batons and dogs that were unleashed on the terrified and peaceful protesters of that era.
Civil Rights Act of 1964: http://www.nps.gov/subjects/civilrights/1964-civil-rights-act.htm
We hear of the oppression of blacks continuing on to this day. The underlying current is whites do this because they hate blacks. Or because they are so indifferent they see blacks as less than anything important. It is that belief that that restricts blacks assenting into the mainstream. We refuse to speak of the obvious hatred of whites that feeds this self-regulated path of despair and idleness. This hatred that feeds their desire to forgo any path to success they perceive to be the way of the whites. School is not cool. Or by adopting a culture that creates no distinction between the culture of jail, and their culture in general for much of the communities population. The point is no longer what got them here, but instead how does change come about?
The logic behind whites not being affected negatively by the isolation of blacks within failed communities is foolish. Every time a white person makes a mistake everyone suffers and we all get blamed. Instead of contributing into the economy they drain it. This in not what society in general wishes. It is not how I want this country to move forward. I welcome the idea of investing into the future of these communities. They in turn need to start realizing how hard others work to get what they have and how they need to follow suite. I am not denying the special burdens they have to overcome. Yet they need to understand there are very few born with the good life handed to them.
We all come from societies that reinvent themselves to adapt to what the future will demand. For the first time in our history parents do not believe their children will do better or even as good as they did. The next generation of all cultures need to navigate this and chart their course forward. The black community is no different. To see them as incapable is to see them as less than the sum of a whole, and that is what it is to be a bigot.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Didn't read the article about reparations, did you? If you got to part X: “There Will Be No ‘Reparations’ From Germany” you are provided a road map for how a great civilization might make itself worthy of the adjective great. Or, looked at another way, how to solve a problem in this century that the USA had for centuries. Whichever you prefer.
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Yes two they have been screaming for this for a long time, then what?
But some problems aren't problems at all worth solving unless they're your personal problem.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
No but I did watch the video, all of it. It is very enlightening and I learned a lot. The case he lays out for reparations still changes nothing. By his standards reparations are due to every culture throughout history in one way or another. China can say this providence used to be a part of china so we demand reparations. Parts of china can declare the same and demand their own. England would be paying off reparations to most of the world including this country for the rest of its fore seeable future, and Russia is hiding behind its former ties to the Ukraine to do a land grab today. How about the American Indian? How about reparations for all the deaths the Spaniards caused by bringing the pox to South America? About 20 million I think. About the same number as American Indians killed by it in this country.
I see the case he made as showing two things that I will address because all the lessons taken from watching this man speak are to numerous to go into. One is that what he presents is his take on the history of this country that he now documents along with many others who have done so before him. It is an understanding of our past I do not disagree with. The second thing is that he is suggesting to the African American community to wait for that check. It is my opinion that, that lesson has been learned and he need not repeat it. Deserved or not the check is not coming. This is the mindset that feeds into the biases separating the two cultures. It is a reoccurring suggestion to the African American community that they are owed something and keeps them emotionally reliving things a time long past.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Are you being sarcastic? Or just ordinary slanderous? Right-wing radio host Laura Ingraham does says CAIR equals ISIS but she don't care what bull she says when she gets rolling on the radio. http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/08/11/laura-ingraham-defies-reality-
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Has everybody been celebrating the glorious funeral presided over by Alby Sharpieton, who was able to fit this in before his next big fundraiser for ISIS (errr, I mean the American translation for ISIS, AKA CAIR, which funds ISIS)?
Praise Glory be!!
No instigator here, nossirree!
suggests-muslim-l/200384
(WASHINGTON, DC, 7/7/2104) -- The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the nation's largest Muslim civil rights and advocacy organization, today condemned as "un-Islamic and morally repugnant" violence and hostilities perpetrated by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and repudiated those who encourage Americans to join that and other extremist groups. -- www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/12551-cair-condemns-isis-viol
ence-and-rejects-calls-to-join-extremists-fighting-abroad.html
I have heard of her, don't think I have heard her.
Not being sarcastic.
Do you believe everything your leader drones tell you to believe?
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
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Frankly, THGRRI, I am having a hard time working out what you are on about.
Let's have a look at what you say.
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Magonsdaugther
I am talking about what needs to be done today. You seem to think you can do what you point out to a population with little consequence to the mental health of the population.
Yeah, this doesn't even make sense as a cohesive thought. Could you try again?
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What is going on in the black community is a direct result of 400 years of oppression. Yes we are a world class power but as you see, so far we have been powerless to effect change. We have a damaged community whose advancement depends on some form of change from within. More and more, black community leaders are realizing without those necessary changes things are destined to remain the same.
Well we might almost be in agreement. Yes, about the 400 years of oppression and kudos to the leaders within the community who try to bring about change. I'd add that change needs to come from both within, and clearly it does happen - ahem *blackpresident* ahem, but also within the broader society. You have spent an awful lot of words demanding that black communities make changes, but you haven't considered what societal structures and forces might contribute to keeping a people oppressed. For example, why so few black coppers? Surely it would be in the interest of the police force to recruit within racial and ethnic communities if those communities are most likely to be involved with the police force. And if some part of the recruitment process discourages them from applying, then change that part. That's just one example. The other one is about past conviction and voting. That's just plain wrong. You should be able to vote in jail, for crying out loud. It's a democracy. All people. All circumstances.
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You talk about the Aboriginal people as though they suffered in a way that was different from the way the black community has suffered here. The list of grievances you point to match verbatim what happened to blacks in this country and others. The one difference being African Americans were brought here from abroad. How that affected Africans is a subject for another thread. You talk about Aborigines not getting the right to vote untill 1967. Here the Civil Rights Act was enacted in 1964. It was in 1963 that Martin Luther King gave his, I have a dream speech. I remember vividly the fire hoses, police batons and dogs that were unleashed on the terrified and peaceful protesters of that era.
Frankly, you are just hallucinating that I said any such thing. You brought up Aborignial people and I quote " As your aborigines practice violence in Australia, blacks practice it here. " as if they were learning the violin.
Aboriginals practice violence? There is violence in lots of communities in Australia, mostly where there are groups of people living in poverty, and who also suffer mental illness, family breakdown and alcohol and drug problems. Some areas where there are lots of Aboriginals, also have these sort of problems, but it is a fallacy to say all Aboriginals (or African Americans) 'practice' violence.
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We hear of the oppression of blacks continuing on to this day. The underlying current is whites do this because they hate blacks. Or because they are so indifferent they see blacks as less than anything important. It is that belief that that restricts blacks assenting into the mainstream. We refuse to speak of the obvious hatred of whites that feeds this self-regulated path of despair and idleness. This hatred that feeds their desire to forgo any path to success they perceive to be the way of the whites. School is not cool. Or by adopting a culture that creates no distinction between the culture of jail, and their culture in general for much of the communities population. The point is no longer what got them here, but instead how does change come about?
Again that there
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yes, witnesses can and do get it wrong, or worse, lie.
But in this case 4 witnesses lying is highly unlikely, all did not know each other and all four witnessed pretty much the same thing, with very few differences.
One woman who was driving directly behind the officer's cruiser, saw the whole thing. She witnessed the struggle between Brown and Wilson at the beginning of the incident. Her story was generally the same as others saying Brown ran away from the officer, who got out and immediately began shooting.
Kind of hard to attack when you're running away, unless you know of some new fangled strategy whereby you dazzle your "victim" by running into him backwards. I know, the element of surprise, you run into him with your butt.
Fact: Brown's body was found some 35 feet away from the vehicle.
Cop pulls up next to suspect, words are exchanged, struggle ensues, suspect reaches in to assault the officer ( possibly reach for his gun) , gun goes off, suspect runs, officer gets out of the car to pursue, suspect turns at him and rushes at officer. Very likely to have happened in that manner.
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By the way, the eye socket, you think that a human being could fracture someone's eye socket with his hands? Look who I'm asking.......of course, you do. Then where is the doctor's report? What hospital did he report to for medical assistance? Let me guess, it wasn't so bad, so he went home to heal.
You're interjecting views I never suggested on this matter now. First of all, there are several ways a person could give another person a broken eye socket. Yes, it would take a severe blow, at the right point, by a large individual, to cause such a injury. The suspect was 6'4", and over 300lbs , and likely striking down on the officer, who was still in his car. OR, it could be that the officer was attempting to get out, and the suspect grabbed the door, and tried to shove it closed, there by striking the officer in the temple, around the eye socket.
The news reports were that the eye socket was broken. Whether true or not, the officer was still struck in the head. That can't be dismissed. That's assaulting an officer.
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Can you believe a hero cop, such as our true American Darren Wilson, so afraid to show his face in public, even though he saved the world from a savage like Mike Brown. What is this country coming to when a hero cop, who braved a facial pummeling from a desperate criminal who jaywalked and pilfered a box of cigarillos, can't go on the morning show circuit because he's so afraid of................exactly what is he afraid of? He's a hero!
When have I once suggested anyone here was a hero ? More fictional view points out of thin air.
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Yes sir! It is a bit misleading, everyone knows that unarmed black teens is a misnomer. They always walk around with their "gats" at the ready, and are always in search of white folks to shoot, stab and maim. Don't be fooled, they always are packing, even when the evidence determines they weren't. It's time people knew the truth, they have magical powers that makes the weapon disappear. Cops knew about this little-known fact, but were withholding the truth so as not to cause a panic. But, you heard it here first!
Why even bother trying to converse w/ you when you're having such a fine time making up shit all on your own?
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http://www.salon.com/2014/08/26/anatomy_of_a_fox_news_smear_ann_coulte
r_matt_drudge_and_the_dumbest_person_on_the_internet/?source=newsletter
Virtually every "fact" that the raptard has posted has been roundly debunked, save one: Darren Wilson killed an unarmed teenager.
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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
http://www.salon.com/2014/08/26/anatomy_of_a_fox_news_smear_ann_coulte
r_matt_drudge_and_the_dumbest_person_on_the_internet/?source=newsletter
Virtually every "fact" that the raptard has posted has been roundly debunked.
Yet another lie from the troll.
The " official " narrative, as presented by the main stream media has gradually fallen completely apart.
The physical evidence is telling the real story.
Sad, tragic story, no matter what, but to personally attack me for what's been reported is the height of troll nonsense.
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Ah the shoe is on the other foot! Yes, I made up most of the shit you read to prove a point. Anyone could engage in hearsay, actually no one, not even the eyewitnesses, can give a full account as to what happened that day.
There are only 2 people who know the truth, and one of them is dead, the other is hiding. Please I don't want to hear about death threats; personally, I think it's all bullshit. So, what we do know was that there was a struggle, but we don't know why.
My theory is this: If Brown did reach for the gun inside the police cruiser (although it's beyond me why he would do that), then we need to consider was Wilson right or left-handed. Why is that important? Because, if he's right-handed then Brown would have to not only shove his considerable girth inside the driver side window of the cruiser, but he would have to reach across the steering wheel and Wilson's body, to then un-clip the holster and pull out the gun before Wilson could react to try and stop him. By the way, there is one way to determine if Brown actually touched the gun, DNA. Question is, was it collected into evidence?
Possible, but highly unlikely.
Wilson probably did attempt to exit the car and Brown most likely tried to keep him from doing so. Wilson parked the car and pursued on foot as Brown ran away. How do I know this without having been there? Because Brown's body was found some 30 feet from the police cruiser. Unless Wilson shot him at close range (which the Medical Examiner ruled out during his autopsy report), and then dragged his lifeless body away from the car. But that doesn't work because Brown's body, as you repeatedly remind me, was 6' 4" and 300 lbs. Of course, your theory is that Brown was charging at Wilson. I remember that. But what would possess a young teen to charge at an armed police officer?
Don't know the answer to that one, but it makes you think, doesn't it?
Oh, by the way, anyone calling me names or insulting me does not work because I don't give a flying fuck. This forum is for intelligent discussion and observation. But, if that's what floats you boat - have at it/
SGG
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yes, witnesses can and do get it wrong, or worse, lie.
But in this case 4 witnesses lying is highly unlikely, all did not know each other and all four witnessed pretty much the same thing, with very few differences.
One woman who was driving directly behind the officer's cruiser, saw the whole thing. She witnessed the struggle between Brown and Wilson at the beginning of the incident. Her story was generally the same as others saying Brown ran away from the officer, who got out and immediately began shooting.
Kind of hard to attack when you're running away, unless you know of some new fangled strategy whereby you dazzle your "victim" by running into him backwards. I know, the element of surprise, you run into him with your butt.
Fact: Brown's body was found some 35 feet away from the vehicle.
Cop pulls up next to suspect, words are exchanged, struggle ensues, suspect reaches in to assault the officer ( possibly reach for his gun) , gun goes off, suspect runs, officer gets out of the car to pursue, suspect turns at him and rushes at officer. Very likely to have happened in that manner.Quote:
By the way, the eye socket, you think that a human being could fracture someone's eye socket with his hands? Look who I'm asking.......of course, you do. Then where is the doctor's report? What hospital did he report to for medical assistance? Let me guess, it wasn't so bad, so he went home to heal.
You're interjecting views I never suggested on this matter now. First of all, there are several ways a person could give another person a broken eye socket. Yes, it would take a severe blow, at the right point, by a large individual, to cause such a injury. The suspect was 6'4", and over 300lbs ,NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME