Another Unarmed Black Teen Killed
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"The word you used to describe how it was done in your country that I have repeatedly used is, THEY ..."
were able to accomplish much since since THEY were freed of the repressive larger society that kept them poor.
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
My answer to your post is the one word I have used over and over again to suggest what has to happen to change things here for the black community. The word you used to describe how it was done in your country that I have repeatedly used is, THEY. THEY need to build what THEY want just as THEY did it in your country. There is a lot of public assistance to help and much more would be forth coming if THEY did some simple things.
well done with the not understanding anything I wrote and in fact taking the exact opposite meaning
THEY were powerless to create change in one country under one kind of class/social structure yet the same THEY managed to do well in another place with a different social structure.
Systems matter. They can promote opportunity for all people of different social standing or they can entrench class structures and division.
I know in the US its more common to talk about race than class, but in this instance the two are pretty much the same. The difference is that with 'race' people such as yourself can identify characteristics of a group and make judgements about that group. ie Black people are lazy, they dont help themselves, they take government handouts. As if these features were to do with skin colour???? Weird. Your logic is deeply, deeply filled with prejudice.
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Yes, witnesses can and do get it wrong, or worse, lie.
But in this case 4 witnesses lying is highly unlikely, all did not know each other and all four witnessed pretty much the same thing, with very few differences.
One woman who was driving directly behind the officer's cruiser, saw the whole thing. She witnessed the struggle between Brown and Wilson at the beginning of the incident. Her story was generally the same as others saying Brown ran away from the officer, who got out and immediately began shooting.
Kind of hard to attack when you're running away, unless you know of some new fangled strategy whereby you dazzle your "victim" by running into him backwards. I know, the element of surprise, you run into him with your butt.
Fact: Brown's body was found some 35 feet away from the vehicle.
By the way, the eye socket, you think that a human being could fracture someone's eye socket with his hands? Look who I'm asking.......of course, you do. Then where is the doctor's report? What hospital did he report to for medical assistance? Let me guess, it wasn't so bad, so he went home to heal.
Can you believe a hero cop, such as our true American Darren Wilson, so afraid to show his face in public, even though he saved the world from a savage like Mike Brown. What is this country coming to when a hero cop, who braved a facial pummeling from a desperate criminal who jaywalked and pilfered a box of cigarillos, can't go on the morning show circuit because he's so afraid of................exactly what is he afraid of? He's a hero!
Yes sir! It is a bit misleading, everyone knows that unarmed black teens is a misnomer. They always walk around with their "gats" at the ready, and are always in search of white folks to shoot, stab and maim. Don't be fooled, they always are packing, even when the evidence determines they weren't. It's time people knew the truth, they have magical powers that makes the weapon disappear. Cops knew about this little-known fact, but were withholding the truth so as not to cause a panic. But, you heard it here first!
Fact: The autopsy was inconclusive. According to the medical examiner, the wound to the hand and wrist could have entered the body from behind, but they could not definitively make that determination.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Fact: Witnesses can get it wrong, or worse, lie.
Fact: * Fifty-one officers were killed when their department-issued firearms or another officer’s gun were turned against them. So all this banter about cops shooting " unarmed teenagers " is a bit misleading. If Officer Wilson had been injured from a blow by Brown, and Brown was coming back again towards the officer, it may be a legitimate use of force the officer used for self defense.
Fact: Autopsy hired by the Brown family themselves shows no gun wounds in the back.
We'll find out soon enough what, if any injuries Officer Wilson sustained.
Yes, that's something I would like to see. A doctor's report and x-rays of his eye socket. Various reports by news outlets indicate that Wilson, our hero, was treated with a swollen face, but that the x-rays came back negative for any serious injury.
Where's ANY evidence that Brown was in the fetal position?
4 witnesses, although it is hearsay. Much like your eye socket stories, since there's no proof of any serious injury to our HERO cop.
* http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/11/robert-farago/washington-post
-more-cops-killed-by-their-own-gun-than-straw-purchases/
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Well put Frem.
SGG
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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Why are there so few black police officers working in predominantly black communities across the country? Most here think it is because whites refuse them the opportunity. I think it has more to do with the job requiring two years of college. Why are there are so few blacks in Ferguson holding public office representing their communitie since blacks represent 67 percent of Fergusons population? Well if no one runs or only 6% of eligible black voters show up at the polls, of course the white guy is going to win.
Most of the bullshit posted here is nothing but a typical distraction. That this is all about whites hating blacks. Then there are those who push back with the same rhetoric of the past. None of which helps to move the discussion to where it needs to go.
Come on Frem, you need to up your game since you understand the streets so well. Why Frem does this always happen and what can be done about it? Please don't just say the politically correct thing like jobs. The ones who need the most help are not capable of showing up each day and taking direction from authority figures. No jobs does not get to the root of the problem and business owners certainly do not want to invest there. These people are raising the next generation of victims as we speak.
Surprised no one else has made the connection.
It's already been posted in this thread, statistical evidence that the police and courts of the region engage in en-masse shakedown and harrassment of the black community, which means by the time they hit their late teens most of em have a record, not cause of anything they do different but because you throw ENOUGH shit at someone over time some is gonna stick - hell the average american commits three felonies a day.
Three Felonies A Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent
http://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594035229/
And of course, BECAUSE of that record they're then blocked from a lot of jobs, AND from the kinds of assistance which could make up the lack, leaving them but one option to survive, which almost inevitably results in an eventual Felony conviction, with me so far ?
Well yanno what that means - IT MEANS THEY CAN NOT VOTE.
Duh.
Which is the ENTIRE FUCKING POINT of this lameass bullshit, to disenfranchise them (also depriving them of the right to bear arms, further crushing potential resistance) so that the fuckers in power around there REMAIN in power.
But of course such inconvenient facts are ignored in the rush to blame the victims of such policies lest we be forced to admit culpability in a broken system which feeds on those helpless against it.
Nobody wants to talk about how those petty bullshit arrests for loitering or whatnot balloon when some poor bastard can't pay the fines, how that cripples their employment prospects even if anybody WAS hiring, leaving many with quite literally no choice BUT to play the cards they been dealt and turn to crime, a self-fulfilling prophecy often as not started by nothing more than some cop wanting to fuck with a teenager for no better reason than what color they are.
Awful hard for people to better themselves when so many of em get slapped with the forever mark of doom before they ever have a chance to.
-Frem
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During one night of the protests, it was caught on video, a cop from one of the surrounding counties was pointing his long gun at a peaceful protester.
He was summarily removed from the scene by a supervising chief. Plus all the journalists that were harassed and arrested for merely filming the festivities.
The Third Reich would have been proud. What pisses me off most is when people, T-Party folks, talk shit about the Federal government coming to get you, and all along it's these fuckers in the little towns who fuck the people and the country's principles of freedom. And poor fuckers like Rappy and JSF don't realize that pretty soon they'll be asked to bend over and grab their ankles. And it will be the high hard boot in the ass.
Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.
SGG
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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
Horse shit, you are denying the obvious, the statistics have been presented, the facts have been laid out, and you ignore every goddamn bit of it to go on blaming the victims, this so-called-culture which is just a lameass excuse to turn a blind eye.
Tell me, how many cops have so far been suspended for the nasty shit they're willing to do in public, on camera, just in this mess alone, four, five ?
Just imagine the crap they pull when no ones looking.
Not to mention that every single measure that's been brought to the table which would improve accountability they've fought tooth and nail, that smacks of premeditation, and you wanna talk "culture", how bout the thin blue line and resultant culture of corruption ?
And here's a handy little fact for you.
Darren Wilson’s former police force was disbanded for excessive force and corruption
http://www.salon.com/2014/08/24/darren_wilsons_former_police_force_was
_disbanded_for_excessive_force_and_corruption/Quote:
The department also endured a corruption scandal. In 2011, city council members voted 6-1 to shut down the force and start over, bringing in a new set of officers. Everyone was let go, including Wilson, but he soon found a job at the Ferguson police department, where he has been since.
This is a known phenomenon, one also remaining unaddressed by any potential reforms.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsy_copQuote:
In law enforcement, the phrase gypsy cop is law enforcement slang for a nomadic or itinerant lawman, a peace officer who floats from department to department regardless of, or because of, misconduct or poor job performance.
So even firing the bastards, hard as it is to do, and rare that it happens, still accomplishes little cause they just move on to the next department over and lather, rinse, repeat.
As to "why it is the way it is", the answer to that is simple.
Fuckheads like YOU cockblocking any useful discussion or implementation of the reforms necessary to reign in these badge bearing psychopaths, because they're so fucking intent to blame people of color for being harrassed that it escapes them completely that the harrassment *IS* the problem.
Oh, and in regards to your ridiculous assertion that the whole three-felonies-a-day is bunk ?
Tell me, are you on a broadband connection right now, hrm ?
Are you perhaps, connecting to the internet at ANY speed in excess of 28,800bps ?
Bang, one Felony.
Can your phone speed dial ?
(As example, and yes people can and have been prosecuted for this, See Also: Bernie S)
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/LI/consCheck.cfm?txtType=HTM
&ttl=18&div=0&chpt=9&sctn=10&subsctn=0
Bang, two Felonies.
And in reference to the above statue, or related one in your state...
Do you own a Television or PC ?
Bang, three Felonies.
Just cause they don't PROSECUTE em unless they wanna fuck with you, don't mean that they ain't there.
-Frem
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
My answer to your post is the one word I have used over and over again to suggest what has to happen to change things here for the black community. The word you used to describe how it was done in your country that I have repeatedly used is, THEY. THEY need to build what THEY want just as THEY did it in your country. There is a lot of public assistance to help and much more would be forth coming if THEY did some simple things.
well done with the not understanding anything I wrote and in fact taking the exact opposite meaning
THEY were powerless to create change in one country under one kind of class/social structure yet the same THEY managed to do well in another place with a different social structure.
Systems matter. They can promote opportunity for all people of different social standing or they can entrench class structures and division.
I know in the US its more common to talk about race than class, but in this instance the two are pretty much the same. The difference is that with 'race' people such as yourself can identify characteristics of a group and make judgements about that group. ie Black people are lazy, they dont help themselves, they take government handouts. As if these features were to do with skin colour???? Weird. Your logic is deeply, deeply filled with prejudice.
I see what you are saying but I have a question. What is the difference between your style government and England's? Also, how are the aborigines doing? They must all be successful business owners by now? They make up what, 3% of your population. Are 3% of your government officials Aborigines? Do they have equal representation within the government or did they start their own?
Try and look at it that way. They have to want it and they have to join in, not try and put a square peg(their culture)into a round hole(society). If it does not fit then you have to make adjustments. If you demand society change it is going to be a long cold winter.
Blacks make up 13% of our population and over 60% are illiterate. Many of those who did receive a high school education read on a 5th grade reading level, some lower than that. It has nothing to do with society in a direct way and everything to do with a lack of engagement on their part. It is a mental health issue. As your aborigines practice violence in Australia, blacks practice it here. Local cops get tired of living under that threat, along with the lack of civility that exists within the black communities they police. It effects and frustrates them causing friction. It is not our government or our society that is holding them down, it is there behavior, anger and antisocial tendencies. Why would someone wish to open a business within a neighborhood that functions at this level?
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Quote:Ta-Nehisi Coates, national correspondent for The Atlantic, addresses the issues raised in his article "The Case for Reparations," detailing the history of slavery in America and arguing that the resulting and persisting social, economic and political injustices, especially in housing, should be addressed through government reparations.
Originally posted by THGRRI:
It is not our government or our society that is holding them down, it is there behavior, anger and antisocial tendencies. Why would someone wish to open a business within a neighborhood that functions at this level?
www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2014/05/the-case-for-reparations/
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Yes two they have been screaming for this for a long time, then what?
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Quote:Didn't read the article about reparations, did you? If you got to part X: “There Will Be No ‘Reparations’ From Germany” you are provided a road map for how a great civilization might make itself worthy of the adjective great. Or, looked at another way, how to solve a problem in this century that the USA had for centuries. Whichever you prefer.
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Yes two they have been screaming for this for a long time, then what?
But some problems aren't problems at all worth solving unless they're your personal problem.
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
I see what you are saying but I have a question. What is the difference between your style government and England's?
yeah, so we're talking 18th and 19th century here. You have a world power with deeply entrenched class system, not to mention total contempt and blame for the underclasses (sound familiar) and a new colony both in need of labour, but with seemingly unlimited resources. It would appear to surprise you, but London didn't just uproot and land on the Sydney harbour. I wont go on about the history of our nation, but we actually do have one separate from the UK, if you care to look it up one day.
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Also, how are the aborigines doing? They must all be successful business owners by now? They make up what, 3% of your population. Are 3% of your government officials Aborigines? Do they have equal representation within the government or did they start their own?
Try and look at it that way. They have to want it and they have to join in, not try and put a square peg(their culture)into a round hole(society). If it does not fit then you have to make adjustments. If you demand society change it is going to be a long cold winter.
Listen, Rap, your ignorance is showing. Do you know anything of the history of the Aboriginal people, the opportunities weren't there for them. They were murdered, rounded up like cattle, their population decimated, their children stolen . They weren't even considered PEOPLE for fucking crying out loud but part of flora and fauna, not given the vote until 1967, still struggling to take back land that was stolen from them. So your ignorant views that they they are not doing so well because of their SKIN colour, is once again, a sign of your deep prejudice against people who have dark skin.
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Blacks make up 13% of our population and over 60% are illiterate. Many of those who did receive a high school education read on a 5th grade reading level, some lower than that. It has nothing to do with society in a direct way and everything to do with a lack of engagement on their part. It is a mental health issue. As your aborigines practice violence in Australia, blacks practice it here. Local cops get tired of living under that threat, along with the lack of civility that exists within the black communities they police. It effects and frustrates them causing friction. It is not our government or our society that is holding them down, it is there behavior, anger and antisocial tendencies. Why would someone wish to open a business within a neighborhood that functions at this level?
Yeah, this is you with your 'Blacks are inherently stupid and violent' narrative. This is prejudice at its worst.
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