Another Unarmed Black Teen Killed

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1KIKI

Monday, August 25, 2014 3:25 AM

THUGR is a know-nothing racist.

This has been addressed many, many times. You've failed to respond with facts at every instance. All you care to know is you dislike blacks, and that you 'know' that they're to blame for - everything.

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

1KIKI

Monday, August 25, 2014 3:46 AM

So, THUGR

I have some yes/ no questions for you:

1) blacks have urban schools at least equal in quality to suburban white schools: yes/ no
2) blacks own the housing in the slums: yes/ no
3) blacks were not denied standard housing loans despite qualifying incomes: yes/ no
4) blacks own the businesses in the slums: yes/ no
5) blacks have on average the same employment rates and the same income as whites with an equal amount of education: yes/ no
6) blacks can get the same quality schools, the same housing ownership, the same loans, the same business opportunities, the same employment rate, and the same income levels with zero changes in the larger society: yes/ no

For each answer, include a cite with statistics to validate your response.

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

THGRRI

Monday, August 25, 2014 4:05 AM

1kiki

So, THUGR

I have some yes/ no questions for you:

1) blacks have urban schools at least equal in quality to suburban white schools: yes/ no

NO

2) blacks own the housing in the slums: yes/ no

NO

3) blacks were not denied standard housing loans despite qualifying incomes: yes/ no

Yes

4) blacks own the businesses in the slums: yes/ no

NO

5) blacks have on average the same employment rates and the same income as whites with an equal amount of schooling: yes/ no

NO

6) blacks can get the same quality schools, the same housing ownership, the same loans, the same business opportunities, the same employment rate, and the same income levels with zero changes in the larger society: yes/ no

NO

Their quality of schools will remain the same until they start using the schools they have properly and raise their graduation rates. They will not own the homes they live in until they can afford to buy them. Their unemployment rates will not change because no one wants to invest in their neighborhoods. Their income levels are unfair but may be somewhat due to location. If you remember the charts you produced about that before, go back and you will see that whites are paid less that Asians across the education spectrum.

You can bitch about the plight of the African American race all you wish. If they don't fix it, it won't get fixed.

1KIKI

Monday, August 25, 2014 4:20 AM

Originally posted by THGRRI:

1) blacks have urban schools at least equal in quality to suburban white schools: yes/ no
NO

2) blacks own the housing in the slums: yes/ no
NO

3) blacks were not denied standard housing loans despite qualifying incomes: yes/ no
Yes Incorrect. During the housing bubble many blacks were only given 'balloon payment' loans despite having incomes that would have qualified them for conventional loans.

4) blacks own the businesses in the slums: yes/ no
NO

5) blacks have on average the same employment rates and the same income as whites with an equal amount of schooling: yes/ no
NO

6) blacks can get the same quality schools, the same housing ownership, the same loans, the same business opportunities, the same employment rate, and the same income levels with zero changes in the larger society: yes/ no
NO

Their quality of schools will remain the same until they start using the schools they have properly and raise their graduation rates. They will not own the homes they live in until they can afford to buy them. Their unemployment rates will not change because no one wants to invest in their neighborhoods. Their income levels are unfair but may be somewhat due to location. If you remember the charts you produced about that before, go back and you will see that whites are paid less that Asians across the education spectrum.

You can bitch about the plight of the African American race all you wish. If they don't fix it, it won't get fixed.

I see you've failed to provide cites for your choices. Furthermore, you've failed to provide (a) cite(s) for you incorrect supposition about schools, incomes, employment rates etc. You seem to think school resources are alloted on the basis of 'deserving-ness' and not on local property tax revenues; that people are restricted to jobs in their immediate neighborhood; and that because some people experience positive bias compared to whites, it makes negative bias against other groups fair.

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

THGRRI

Monday, August 25, 2014 4:46 AM

This is how stupid you are. You ask for yes/no answers. What followed me answering your questions was my opinion. I don't care if you agree. When it comes to you understanding issues, you don't. You are all emotions so your judgment is clouded.

I have a question for you. Do you think things will change with this latest incident?

1KIKI

Monday, August 25, 2014 4:59 AM

"For each answer, include a cite with statistics to validate your response."

I clearly typed that in my post. I could assume you don't know how to read. Or you're ignorant. Or you don't know how to engage in logical argument. But you see THUGR, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. Rather than assume anything, I've asked for you to show that you have facts at your disposal and can organize a logical answer using them appropriately.

Or I could simply subject you to "the soft bigotry of low expectations" and accept your say-so with a dismissive pat on the head.

What would you prefer?

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

THGRRI

Monday, August 25, 2014 5:12 AM

Yes or no moron means yes or no.

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Monday, August 25, 2014 8:13 AM

There is usually a structural reason why groups of people are disenfranchised within a society, unless of course you want to go down the curly path (which some here go) of blaming a particular group or class of being lazy, stupid or born bad.

I have a great example for you which blows 'this group sucks' rather than
'this society gas a structure which keeps certain people poor and encourages criminal behaviour;' and that is the example of mine own country, probably similar to yours as well.

We were basically colonised by the poorest, most desperate, most criminal class that were despised and blamed in England and Ireland. They hated them, couldn't wait to get rid of them, they were seen as being a separate race who were incapable of achieving or living like the other classes.

They actually won the lottery by deportation, those that survived the journey, because once they had done their term they stuck around and built a pretty decent society because their skills and labour was valued and needed, there was plenty of land to farm, they often rose to positions of influence and prosperity, yeah and a few were hard core and landed back in jail.

So if I visit a country and I see lots of poor, beggars, street urchins - I never think 'these people are too lazy and stupid to work' I think that this society has structural issues which means that part of their population suffer.

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THGRRI

Monday, August 25, 2014 9:08 AM

My answer to your post is the one word I have used over and over again to suggest what has to happen to change things here for the black community. The word you used to describe how it was done in your country that I have repeatedly used is, THEY. THEY need to build what THEY want just as THEY did it in your country. There is a lot of public assistance to help and much more would be forth coming if THEY did some simple things.

1KIKI

Monday, August 25, 2014 11:01 AM

"For each answer, include a cite with statistics to validate your response."

Originally posted by THGRRI:

Yes or no moron means yes or no.

So you pick illiterate.

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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