Another Unarmed Black Teen Killed
POSTED BY: SHINYGOODGUY
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 25, 2026 18:50
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Quote:There something wrong with the Ferguson Police Dept, but you can interpret its history as you please. Alex Tabarrok comments on the rather remarkable caseload of Ferguson's municipal court:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
This is the REAL WORLD. . . .
More info needs to come out, but as of now, there's at least reasonable doubt, in my mind, that the cop MAY have acted correctly.
You don’t get $321 in fines and fees and 3 warrants per household from an about-average crime rate. You get numbers like this from bullshit arrests for jaywalking and constant “low level harassment involving traffic stops, court appearances, high fines, and the threat of jail for failure to pay.” -- http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2014/08/ferguson-and-
the-debtors-prison.html
Fines and court fees comprise the second largest source of revenue for the city, a total of $2,635,400. In 2013, the Ferguson Municipal Court disposed of 24,532 warrants and 12,018 cases, or about 3 warrants and 1.5 cases per household.
Why are police departments allowed to fund themselves with ticket revenue in the first place? Or red light camera revenue. Or civil asset forfeiture revenue. Or any other kind of revenue that provides them with an incentive to be as hardass as possible.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Indeed, Second - that whole article is a good expose of how exactly the financial death spiral trap works, which is why despite the risk I still think it's better to oppose a bullshit arrest on the spot, cause once they get the crowbar into your life in that fashion you're as good as dead already, it's just gonna take longer.
Oh, and this little bit which came along today.
Everytown USA: Is the Policeman Your Friend?
http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/25742-everytown-usa-is-the-policeman
-your-friend
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The Ferguson police said Brown was the suspect in the robbery of some cigars at a store, and released a grainy security video to prove it. Then they said Officer Wilson did not know Brown was a suspect. Then they said he did know. Then they said, for reasons passing understanding, that Brown had marijuana in his system. Then it came to light that Brown, in fact, paid for his cigars. Meanwhile, with every story switch by the police, the protesters in the street got hotter and angrier and louder. The arrests began, sweeping up journalists along with protesters, along with local citizens just trying to go about their business...
Again, and as usual, over and over again...
I Told You So.
-Frem
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http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-contradict-fox-sources-claiming-darren-
wilson-had-fractured-eye-socket/
CNN Contradicts Fox Sources Claiming Darren Wilson Had Fractured Eye Socket
OR
FOX cums in crappy's mouth and crappy spits it out here
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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So, let's total up the disinformation
cigars - paid for
officer - no broken eye socket
Brown - not a suspect
Brown - not killed in a close-quarters struggle
- meanwhile the Ferguson town council and PD look worse and worse -
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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Unlikely, no reason to shove a store clerk if you paid for cigars you weren't old enough to buy in the first place.
The rush to dishonesty here is staggering.
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Surely some have mentioned by now that he is not a repeat criminal offender. Theft of cigars - in most places theft is a crime in white neighborhoods. Assaulting a Police Officer - that would be a felony. Hmm... I wonder if more that one is, like, repeating.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
1. Unarmed. Must I spell it out for you?
2. I made a clear enough statement. Cops arrest people, they are not "charged" with executing them at will. We are a nation of laws, unless you come from a "backwater theocracy" where you make up the rules as you go along.
The rest of your comments, I swat away like I would a gnat.
But, of course, you will continue to try and provoke.
Here's a scenario:
I'm a cop and I see you walking toward me. I pull my service revolver and blow your head off. According to your weak statements, I would be justified in the shooting because you were coming at me in a threatening manner. My shoot would be justified, merely because you assumed the "attack position"
That would be my story. According to you, I would walk away scott free.
That's about right, isn't it?
Law and Order!
SGGQuote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Well 6SJ,
Here's how I look at it.
It doesn't matter what the kid did, or if he was an asshole or not. Crossing against the light, shoplifting cigars, jaywalking, what have you.
Fact: He was unarmed
Many states recognize hands as lethal weapons. How many reasonable people would truly consider a 6'4" 300 pound criminal high on angel dust or whatever he was on to be unarmed? And the point of being compliant in the presense of and armed officer is to allow them to verify that you are NOT in possession of a weapon - if you don't comply, they must assume you are armed, and put you down.Quote:
Fact: He was shot 6 times
Fact: The police are hired to keep the peace, arrest lawbreakers and bring them to justice.
Surely this is a reasonable argument - society needs police (this is in America, not some backwater theocracy) to arrest criminals, and those criminals who choose to commit more crimes by resisting arrest so they can continue to commit more crimes should be stopped at all costs.
I recall the times serial killers have been stopped amidst their sprees when officers did not adhere to commands to cease pursuit, only to find that the reason for fleeing was the corpse of the 26th victim was wrapped in carpet in the truck bed - would not have been stopped if we would just let all those criminals carry on if they don't feel like pulling over amidst the commission of a crime.
Good plan.Quote:
Not to be judge, jury and executioner.
OOoops. Spoke too soon, poster went off the rails. Accidentally swerved into sensible thinking above, but now has returned to the quicksand of libtardity.
You are incorrect.
But tell me, now close to unconsciousness should an armed officer allow himself to get before defending the citizens he/she is duty-bound to protect and keeping his/her service weapon out of the hands of the assailant?
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
My rush to dishonesty here is staggering.
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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This makes a liar out of you, 1kiki -
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
My rush to dishonesty here is staggering.
I never posted that.
It'd make perfect sense if Michael Brown hadn't appeared on video , where he shoved a store clerk , apparently for no reason what so ever, and then bowed up to the clerk, who was ever so thankful that the customer had paid in full for his cigars.
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Hey Rappy nice catch. Proof once again that 1kiki is not just a liar but she changes what we say as well. She only changed one word but that was all it took to change the meaning of what you said completely.
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OH, CRAPPY DOES THAT ALL THE TIME. I WAS JUST RETURNING IT BACK TO HIM. YOU'RE OK WHEN CRAPPY DOES IT, THOUGH. YOU ONLY TAKE ISSUE WITH PEOPLE WHO CHALLENGE YOUR 'FACTS'. YOU HAVE MENTAL PROBLEMS.
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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