Edge of Tomorrow
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Quote:I loved deadwood! I think it wasn't so good by season 3, but I did so want to know where it was going to go from there.
Originally posted by Captain_Cooper:
In answer to the question regarding Hell on Wheels: YES! Very good! (Plus... I have a sneaky suspicion the central character is Mal Reynolds great-greatisty-great grandpappy, centuries on down the line... watch a few episodes and let me know if you agree!)
The series is on Netflix now -- at first, I thought it was a Deadwood-wanna-be (and I will always mourn the loss of HBO's Deadwood, almost as much as Firefly), but HoW has gotten increasingly stronger season by season.
Captain Bet Cooper,
Firefly Transport Jin Dui
I will check out hell on wheels as soon as I get a chance. It sounds like we have similar taste. In tv and in men lol!
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Ok, I'm going to answer again about the Helicopter scene at the end of the movie. The reset:
When I originally saw the film I didn't realize that, once he beat the Omega that everything was as it was prior to the invasion of the aliens.
Regarding the POV at the END of the movie:
In terms of the ending, I thought it would have more impact at the end showing her point of view; meaning meeting Cage for the first time. Then cutting to him smiling at Rita (please know that I note this as a minor quibble on my part).
I'm speaking strictly in terms of camera angle and set up. Nothing more. The POV as she/audience sees it on screen.
The way it shot was from his POV. It was a small choice that I thought would improve the scene and overall ending, as I had said that I was slightly disappointed with the ending.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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I'm a little fuzzy on the timeline myself, but that moment on the bridge was a crucial moment.
JSF's opinions notwithstanding.............
To me the bridge scene was saying to us and to Cage - the battle at the beach was lost and now the aliens were IN London. The look on his face was "Shit, this is serious. I gotta do something NOW!" Then he resets. If I remember it correctly, it is then that he gets his game face on and bares down on his training that even Rita looks at him and says "Wow, look at him go." There is a great sequence where he's so focused that he destroys all the practice robots with such ease and assuredness.
The Bridge Scene (as I call it) was when he sees "this is it," as I stated above, but yeah it's been establish by brilliant writing.
But what Cage realizes is that the aliens must have won at the beach because here they are in London. it's like the final chess piece.
The Rita/Helicopter Death scene: Again the writing. It is here where we come to see just how much Cage cares for Rita. In an attempt to save her, he withholds the keys to the copter. With all his fussing over her, she figures it out. He's trying to hard to have her stay there, because he knows she dies and he can't stop or change it. It here where I think he decides, "I'm not going to find her and go it alone."
And........The attack on London and the middle-name helicopter death of Rita are what turned him around internally, because he has that connection to her and something to fight for.
Agreed. It is that connection that drives him, and so he goes out to reset the day, to save the women he loves.
SGG
Either I am missing your logic our you are missing mine.
Do you agree that 1. London and Bridge scenes occur AFTER the helicopter scene?
That 2. London and Bridge scenes occur WITHOUT Rita?
That 3. London and Bridge scenes occur AFTER he had already decided to not meet Rita and advance to that point without her?
That 4. London and Bridge scenes did not have Rita included in those reboots, she was not there, she could not "see the look on his face" or "see how he goes' or whatever?
I don't understand how you think the scene in London or Bridge could trigger him to not meet with Rita, when he is already without Rita in those scenes (and she did not die in those reboots, he would not continue if she had died). I don't currently understand why you would think those scenes would spur him to buckle down and take things seriously, when he had already passed that stage long before.
And, again, can you explain what you meant about your question about the helicopter scene?
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Ok, I'm going to answer again about the Helicopter scene at the end of the movie. The reset:
When I originally saw the film I didn't realize that, once he beat the Omega that everything was as it was prior to the invasion of the aliens.
OK, so you were referring to the transport helicopter scene where he wakes up in the chopper, before meeting Rita, right? Not the Rita/helicopter/death scene, right?Quote:
Regarding the POV at the END of the movie:
In terms of the ending, I thought it would have more impact at the end showing her point of view; meaning meeting Cage for the first time. Then cutting to him smiling at Rita (please know that I note this as a minor quibble on my part).
SGG
Understood. Now, I mean.Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I'm a little fuzzy on the timeline myself, but that moment on the bridge was a crucial moment.
JSF's opinions notwithstanding.............
The Rita/Helicopter Death scene: Again the writing. It is here where we come to see just how much Cage cares for Rita. In an attempt to save her, he withholds the keys to the copter. With all his fussing over her, she figures it out. He's trying to hard to have her stay there, because he knows she dies and he can't stop or change it. It here where I think he decides, "I'm not going to find her and go it alone."
And........The attack on London and the middle-name helicopter death of Rita are what turned him around internally, because he has that connection to her and something to fight for.
Agreed. It is that connection that drives him, and so he goes out to reset the day, to save the women he loves.
SGG
Either I am missing your logic our you are missing mine.
Do you agree that 1. London and Bridge scenes occur AFTER the helicopter scene?
That 2. London and Bridge scenes occur WITHOUT Rita?
That 3. London and Bridge scenes occur AFTER he had already decided to not meet Rita and advance to that point without her?
That 4. London and Bridge scenes did not have Rita included in those reboots, she was not there, she could not "see the look on his face" or "see how he goes' or whatever?
I don't understand how you think the scene in London or Bridge could trigger him to not meet with Rita, when he is already without Rita in those scenes (and she did not die in those reboots, he would not continue if she had died). I don't currently understand why you would think those scenes would spur him to buckle down and take things seriously, when he had already passed that stage long before.
And, again, can you explain what you meant about your question about the helicopter scene?
Thanks for the explanations, now those items make sense.
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Quote:There is an explanation of WHY THE EDGE OF TOMORROW ENDING IS GREAT http://badassdigest.com/2014/06/26/film-crit-hulk-smash-why-the-edge-o
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Thanks for the explanations, now those items make sense.
f-tomorrow-ending-is-great/
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Edge of Tomorrow might be one of Hulk's favorite summer movies in years. Really. Perhaps Hulk has just been hungry for movies that actually understand the capacity for scene transitions. Or stories that propel you forward with rapid, acute development. Or stories that care very little for overt and unnecessary adherence to the 3-act structure and instead focus on getting us through each scene with a real sense of purpose for both emotion and plot. Or best of all, movies that can imbue character development into the proceedings with trust in an audience to get the suggestions (seriously, the evolution of the helicopter scene did 13 scenes worth of story in one). All of which means Hulk left Edge of Tomorrow fully sated to the point of adoration.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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You know something JSF, we may not agree on many things, but anyone who gets into movies to this extent gets my attention and a little respect - at least when it comes to movies.
As you can tell, it is my passion. For me it's the whole package, the storytelling, the visuals or cinematography, direction and acting. So, suffice it to say that I'll be getting the DVD package with all the trimmings. This was a well structured film, despite my little picadillos.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Ok, I'm going to answer again about the Helicopter scene at the end of the movie. The reset:
When I originally saw the film I didn't realize that, once he beat the Omega that everything was as it was prior to the invasion of the aliens.
OK, so you were referring to the transport helicopter scene where he wakes up in the chopper, before meeting Rita, right? Not the Rita/helicopter/death scene, right?Quote:
Regarding the POV at the END of the movie:
In terms of the ending, I thought it would have more impact at the end showing her point of view; meaning meeting Cage for the first time. Then cutting to him smiling at Rita (please know that I note this as a minor quibble on my part).
SGG
Understood. Now, I mean.Quote:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
SPOILER ALERT
POST CONTAINS SPOILER DISCUSSIONQuote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I'm a little fuzzy on the timeline myself, but that moment on the bridge was a crucial moment.
JSF's opinions notwithstanding.............
The Rita/Helicopter Death scene: Again the writing. It is here where we come to see just how much Cage cares for Rita. In an attempt to save her, he withholds the keys to the copter. With all his fussing over her, she figures it out. He's trying to hard to have her stay there, because he knows she dies and he can't stop or change it. It here where I think he decides, "I'm not going to find her and go it alone."
And........The attack on London and the middle-name helicopter death of Rita are what turned him around internally, because he has that connection to her and something to fight for.
Agreed. It is that connection that drives him, and so he goes out to reset the day, to save the women he loves.
SGG
Either I am missing your logic our you are missing mine.
Do you agree that 1. London and Bridge scenes occur AFTER the helicopter scene?
That 2. London and Bridge scenes occur WITHOUT Rita?
That 3. London and Bridge scenes occur AFTER he had already decided to not meet Rita and advance to that point without her?
That 4. London and Bridge scenes did not have Rita included in those reboots, she was not there, she could not "see the look on his face" or "see how he goes' or whatever?
I don't understand how you think the scene in London or Bridge could trigger him to not meet with Rita, when he is already without Rita in those scenes (and she did not die in those reboots, he would not continue if she had died). I don't currently understand why you would think those scenes would spur him to buckle down and take things seriously, when he had already passed that stage long before.
And, again, can you explain what you meant about your question about the helicopter scene?
Thanks for the explanations, now those items make sense.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You know something JSF, we may not agree on many things, but anyone who gets into movies to this extent gets my attention and a little respect - at least when it comes to movies.
As you can tell, it is my passion. For me it's the whole package, the storytelling, the visuals or cinematography, direction and acting. So, suffice it to say that I'll be getting the DVD package with all the trimmings. This was a well structured film, despite my little picadillos.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Thanks for the explanations, now those items make sense.
I have not been able to find it showing in any of the budget theaters, not in weeks.
So, when you get it, are you going to have a few repeat loops of "no helmet, it gets in the way" scene? Or do you have a different scene you are more likely to repeat on?
I hope you enjoy it, and I hope I have not ruined your experience of it for you.
Did you also participate in the Inception discussion thread?
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Just found it showing at my local budget theater, so I can check it out some more this week. Sweet.
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Enjoy...........
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One of my favorite scenes is when Cage meets the professor, and, after having explained it all to him at first blush, Cage says to "Nice presentation" - I laughed so hard I nearly spit on the guy in front of me in the theater.
And no, you have not ruined it for me. On the contrary, the "discussion" made me appreciate it more, both you and Mal4Prez. Just because we disagree
doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it.
I may have made some comments on Inception, although, I don't remember exactly. Really good movie, maybe even great..........although I've seen it several times, I always catch something new or a different perspective. One thing I can't complain about is that brilliant ending.
Have you seen Cloud Atlas? If not, please do. It is an experience, but I warn you to give it time to wash over you. I grew to love it more each time I've seen it (about 6 times now).
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You know something JSF, we may not agree on many things, but anyone who gets into movies to this extent gets my attention and a little respect - at least when it comes to movies.
As you can tell, it is my passion. For me it's the whole package, the storytelling, the visuals or cinematography, direction and acting. So, suffice it to say that I'll be getting the DVD package with all the trimmings. This was a well structured film, despite my little picadillos.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Thanks for the explanations, now those items make sense.
I have not been able to find it showing in any of the budget theaters, not in weeks.
So, when you get it, are you going to have a few repeat loops of "no helmet, it gets in the way" scene? Or do you have a different scene you are more likely to repeat on?
I hope you enjoy it, and I hope I have not ruined your experience of it for you.
Did you also participate in the Inception discussion thread?
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
One of my favorite scenes is when Cage meets the professor, and, after having explained it all to him at first blush, Cage says to "Nice presentation" - I laughed so hard I nearly spit on the guy in front of me in the theater.
And no, you have not ruined it for me. On the contrary, the "discussion" made me appreciate it more, both you and Mal4Prez. Just because we disagree
doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it.
I may have made some comments on Inception, although, I don't remember exactly. Really good movie, maybe even great..........although I've seen it several times, I always catch something new or a different perspective. One thing I can't complain about is that brilliant ending.
Have you seen Cloud Atlas? If not, please do. It is an experience, but I warn you to give it time to wash over you. I grew to love it more each time I've seen it (about 6 times now).
SGGQuote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You know something JSF, we may not agree on many things, but anyone who gets into movies to this extent gets my attention and a little respect - at least when it comes to movies.
As you can tell, it is my passion. For me it's the whole package, the storytelling, the visuals or cinematography, direction and acting. So, suffice it to say that I'll be getting the DVD package with all the trimmings. This was a well structured film, despite my little picadillos.
SGGQuote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
SPOILER ALERT
SPOILER DISCUSSION IN THIS POST
Thanks for the explanations, now those items make sense.
I have not been able to find it showing in any of the budget theaters, not in weeks.
So, when you get it, are you going to have a few repeat loops of "no helmet, it gets in the way" scene? Or do you have a different scene you are more likely to repeat on?
I hope you enjoy it, and I hope I have not ruined your experience of it for you.
Did you also participate in the Inception discussion thread?
Watched Cloud Atlas, expected to enjoy it. Saw it a second time, because i couldn't remember seeing it the first time, the experience was so detached from what I had hoped. Neither time sank in, sorry.
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