Edge of Tomorrow

POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Saturday, October 18, 2025 16:24
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Watched over the weekend. The previous times I had watched, I had not realized how confused viewers would be, until after explaining things here and discovering some still didn't get it. So I wanted to see again to better understand why so many could be so confused. There were no more showings that I could find until this weekend.
So, I was reminded about many things which I have not posted about, much of which I conjured most would not understand, and some of which I had previously thought was too obvious. I observed some things I hadn't gotten before. I reviewed some things I thought I recalled correctly, and some I wasn't sure about.

Might take me a little time to complete this post, or I'll break it up into several.


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WARNING OF SPOILER DISCUSSION IN THIS POST, MAYBE THE NEXT FEW POSTS BY ME


DO NOT READ THIS POST UNLESS YOU WANT TO RISK YOUR VIEWING ENJOYMENT TO BE COMPROMISED.


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Disclaimer: These are my opinions and observations. Perhaps some of them are not agreed upon by others. Perhaps the scriptwriters were careless in their sequencing of scenes and they did not intend to portray what I viewed, perhaps they only placed scenes in certain sequence as accident or coincidence.


I noticed the sequence used in the film.

Cage arrives in helicopter just before 9am.

Cage tasered, must wake a few hours later (afternoon or early evening) at Processing. This is the time he resets to.

Most times, he must sleep sometime, before invasion assault at 6am next morning.

Original life: Rita dies soon on beach, then J-squad gets what they had coming. Then Cage kills Alpha (one Alpha per 6 million mimics, is this the only one on the beach to repel the invasion?)

First reset, Rita steals his battery. Invasion is 0600 (6am).

Many many times Rita shoots Cage in the head - many viewers will want to loop this sequence to see Cruise dying over and over.

Cage has broken leg, crawling away from Rita, then gets the vision. (does Omega send the Trap vision after locating him, because he had X number of repetitive resets to enable Omega to focus on him - Doc Carter and Rita think vision is progress, when it is really setback)

Rita: "Training is over, you need to find a way off the beach"

Fail to make it off the beach - Rita always dead (Omega cannot allow her to accompany Cage to the vision Trap, to make him bleed out)

Cage stares at Rita, she says "is something on my face?" Bar/bridge in London. In bar, he already states the Mimic Horde will win, and get whatever they want - he is already defeatist.

Doc Carter finds location of Turner Dam, from Cage's vision.

Cage is training intensely, WITHOUT Rita. He continues to fail, and getting frustrated.

Rita says to Cage, "You can do this"

Cage rescues J-Squad from their imminent original demise on the beach. This is how the breakthrough to getting off the beach occurs.

Helicopter/death, Rita always dead (Omega cannot allow her to accompany Cage to the vision Trap, to make him bleed out)

Cage goes it without Rita, he is distraught and ticked, allows all around him to die (Rita will die on the beach before he gets to the Omega, no matter what he does). He finds the Trap.

Reconvene with Carter (Cage points out Verdun was a Trap for Rita, likely knows Henderson had to die - all 300 times - before Rita could get to her Trap, as well), Rita and Cage to the General at Whitehall for the device.

At the Louve, Rita explains to Cage they will both die here.



The time reset units were fuzzy before, and now are more confusing. Everybody says "resets the day" but this seems to be slang, or generalization, but I have not logically nailed it down. More on this later if I run out of time now.


Now I understand FMB. Didn't know before, and when I asked talk devolved into the Beach, it seemed - I had no idea why the beach scene was of huge interest. Sure, it is the Gauntlet, it is the Crucible, but I didn't see m

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CONTINUATION OF SPOILER DISCUSSION.







New things I've thought, from new viewings.

I did notice that th4e scenes were not just repeated cuts from the same footage, they were each re-shot segments. In the first landing, Cage's visor gets smashed, and knocked off - I figured this was for the viewers to see who the star was, without the obstruction in front of his eyes (like when F-14 pilots in Top Gun fly about with their oxygen masks - with mics - hanging loose, which every flight film after that copied). Then the first reset, his helmet remains intact, visor stays on. Throughout the flik, various shots are shown with visor, without visor, not sure if there is meaning intended for these different continuities.

Some have positied this film is the redemption of Major William Cage. I don't think that is the case. I currently think it is actually the story of the redemption of J-squad. To start with, J-squad is abunch of miserable, selfish a-holes.
Original timeline: J-squad efffectively burn Cage at the stake, not allowing him to unsafe his weapon. He becomes the sole person able to save them, if his weapon had been brought hot, but since they never let him unsafe his weapon, he could not save them, and they got what they deserved, fulfilling their self-prophecy.
After resets, Cage is able to help some of them, like Kimmel not getting pancaked by the falling plane section.
Eventually, Cage seems to find out that he must save J-squad from their imminent original demise in order for he and Rita to survive and escape the beach. This is when Cage turns around their fate.
After losing the power, Cage and Rita need more troops to save the human race from extinction, and Cage convinces them, and they come to redeem themselves, selflessly sacrificing themselves in the BELIEF they might possibly save the human race, although they are sure to all die.
After the victory (or before), they are all alive, remaining so, unaware of their heroism when they were faced with being the only hope that mankind had left. All of J-squad answering the call of Hero of Verdun, up to Griff and Skinner at the end, they gave all they had. Including Cage giving up not only his life, but acknowledging the demise of Rita, which he had worked so hard to circumvent.


Time reset units.
Time resets to his awaking from the Tasering. This is afternoon or early evening, likely. This is not the beginning of a day. Sometimes he dies a few hours after this (in Rita's training gym), but he never resets to arriving in London in the chopper. Sometimes he lasts throught the beach, into the evening at the helicopter house "it's going to be dark soon" and the bridge is also late in the day of the invasion.
So, how many hours is the reset? "Reset the day" doesn't seem to apply, or it would reset to the morning of the invasion, or else to the morning ao his arrival into London.
Is it that Alphas can reset the day (or Omega does it for them), and then the Omega itself controls a greater time power, hence the reset to Cage arriving in London aboard chopper?
I have not resolved this - has anybody else?


Was Henderson (who Rita watched die 300 times) also one who had absorbed the time reset power? Clearly, Henderson was to Rita as Rita is to Cage - Omega must get Cage to the Trap alone so Cage can be bled out, and must kill Rita at first before leaving the beach, and then at the helicopter scene. And for Rita, Henderson had to be killed off by Omega before Rita could get to her Trap and get bled out. So, was Henderson just an unlucky SOB, or was he also a previously empowered time resetter?

I had wondered about mental fatigue of Cage, and likely of Rita in her time. He keeps resetting to his same body, that of a Madmen PR slob, no reflexes or strength. His resets allow him to only learn in his head, he has no time to tone or strenthen his body, teach it physical reflexes - it must all be mental. He has the same amount of food each time, the same amount of res

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Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
Has no one else gone to see this?

Hey, I'm in large part overjoyed at the poor ratings because I want to see the Cult Man's movie returns go to crap as a message of what the USA thinks of his cult way of living. FAIL you Scientology freak LOL! Get a real life before you try selling us a movie!

And yet... The goodness of this movie is not the the lead actor cult freak with the nice hair. I'm sad to say that anyone who avoids this movie based on Tom Cruise disgust is really missing something worthwhile, something created by a whole bunch of non-cult folks who deserve recognition.

If only they had cast it differently, I would love this movie all out.

*sigh*


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Took 2 months for this to get to my local budget cinema. That seems like a while nowadays.

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Hey JSF, it'll be a while before I get to answer your post, at least until I get the DVD, but I will attempt to respond in some form in the next few days.

One thing is certain, EoT is a keeper and my new "Matrix."


SGG

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Hey JSF, it'll be a while before I get to answer your post, at least until I get the DVD, but I will attempt to respond in some form in the next few days.

One thing is certain, EoT is a keeper and my new "Matrix."


SGG

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Be sure to include your fave lines with your post.
Matrix probably doesn't rate as high for me in this category as Highlander and Inception, plus Terminator 2 and Firefly.

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Upon further review, I should point out that I had confused "The Bridge" scene following the Bar scene with "the Bridge" on top of "The Dam" scene on Turner Dam - neither of which had Cage riding his motorcycle. There are a number of quoted and named scenes which are unclear, and this was one I misunderstood from the description/recall.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Class is in session (boy that was cocky) I'm feeling the flow..............

"I think you have it backwards."

Perhaps I do, but let's dig a little deeper, shall we!?

The Theme: The heart of the matter

Skipping on down to his first encounter with Master Sgt. Farrell

Farrell sizes him up and, through his vast experience, he instinctively knows the type he's dealing with. He's a liar (ad man) and a coward, putting himself above others. Selfish, etc.

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Cannot possibly agree, absolutely not. Farrell does not "size him up" because he has in his pocket a basket of lies that he, a retarded Kentuckian, is feeble-minded and gullible enough to believe.

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Why am I going this way? Patience grasshopper, it will all come together.

Farrell strips him of his rank - he is now a private. The military routinely does this, I'm sure I don't need to elaborate.

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Abysmally incorrect. Farrell does not strip him of his rank - no Non-Commissioned Officer can ever strip anybody of their rank, even in this doofus UDF, let alone a United States Armed Services Officer Commissioned by the United States Congress, and far from being able to do so of a Field Grade Officer (Major). A demotion from Major to Captain (a non-Field Grade Commissioned Officer) is NOT a routine occurrence. A demotion from Major to either First or Second Lieutenant is even further from routine. All of these require the concurrence of the demoted Officer, or a Court-Martial. A demotion from any rank to Private is NOT a routine occurrence, unless from the rank immediately above Private (perhaps Private First Class) and then under UCMJ Articles as long as the demoted waives rights to a Court-martial.
I am sure you cannot elaborate, because you have no clue.

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It's about to get real!

He goes to battle and, just as the sergeant said, thought of himself and used the bomb to survive. Little did he know that was the beginning of his "baptism" and hence to the beginning of his journey and his fate. Not battle (Ooo, I have goosebumps) but to meet Rita.

Damn, I'm good!

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You are still grossly misinformed. He was thinking of himself when he tried to save J-squad by announcing the mimic was surfacing amidst them? Really? Using the Claymore Mine to KILL the ALIEN INVADER was mere selfishness?
I cannot agree with any of this.

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More on that later. let me answer your question directly.



She trains him because he's their only hope for survival. She must do everything in her power to give him her experience, and hope that he will

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OK, you get this part right.

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Now, each time he resets, he sees her bus poster and she's becoming more to him than just his trainer. We all know that, so on to the helicopter scene where she dies. Yes, he realizes that they cannot get past that point, and "we" see that he cares for her. He doesn't want to live in a world without her, so I agree with you. But it is her determination, coupled with his emotional connection to her, that drives him now. He is no longer thinking of self. He has become HERO.

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This seems backwards. He is selfish because HE WANTS HER, HE wants Her more than the remainder of the human race to survive. SHE is not selfish, she is willing to sacrifice, and beyond, she is trying to distance herself from him to prevent his selfishness from usurping her goal of killing the Omega. I might venture that she may be intent on sacrificing herself for her goal, whether or not Cage survives, and she is seriously ticked when she finds out he is tr

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More of the further review...

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I agree with you that the scene in the bar is not him deserting, but rather him taking a break to regroup, recharge and see what angle he could approach the battle from. Even when the old codgers insult him by calling him a coward, it doesn't phase him,

I'm a little fuzzy on the timeline myself, but that moment on the bridge was a crucial moment. During his training by Rita, he constantly complains whenever she goes to "reset" because he's hurt or wounded.

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I disagree. Those resets mostly stop once the Omega locates him and gives him the vision. Those constant, repetitive resets were what allowed the Omega to localize him to send him the Trap.

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By the helicopter/Rita scene he's already in love with her, and, for the life of him, he can't figure out how to save her.

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He was already in love with her when he couldn't get off the beach without her dying every time, when she said "is something on my face" and before going to the Bar. IMO, but perhaps I'm just too romantic. (noun, not adjective)

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JSF's opinions notwithstanding.............

To me the bridge scene was saying to us and to Cage - the battle at the beach was lost and now the aliens were IN London. The look on his face was "Shit, this is serious. I gotta do something NOW!" Then he resets. If I remember it correctly, it is then that he gets his game face on and bares down on his training that even Rita looks at him and says "Wow, look at him go."

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Still disagree. He got serious when trying to get off the beach without Rita being dead. He "resets" when she tells him "You can do this"

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There is a great sequence where he's so focused that he destroys all the practice robots with such ease and assuredness.

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but he still couldn't get off the beach, until he figures out that saving J-squad gets him off the beach.

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The Bridge Scene (as I call it) was when he sees "this is it," as I stated above, but yeah it's been establish by brilliant writing. But remember Rita tells him that it was a trap,

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No. Cage explains to Rita and Carter that her vision was a trap, she and Carter don't see it until Cage points it out. Now he knows his was a trap, and he is also trying to make her feel better about her role. And this scene is after he gets to Turner Dam, and escaping from his trap.

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so that's in the back of everyone's mind. Could they be setting Cage up for another trap? You see how that is worked in so smoothly by the writers. The seed is planted. But what Cage realizes is that the aliens must have won at the beach because here they are in London. it's like the final chess piece.

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Cage already knew this, he stated so in the Bar, where he ran out of onto the Bridge. He just didn't know what time they would get to London.

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The Rita/Helicopter Death scene: Again the writing. It is here where we come to see just how much Cage cares for Rita. The coffee, the little details, the wanting to know her middle name. But there's more and "we" find out as Rita does, that Cage is holding out. In an attempt to save her, he withholds the keys to the copter. With all his fussing over her, she figures it out. He's trying to hard to have her stay there, because he knows she dies and he can't stop or change it. Remember back when the Big guy with no underwear gets smushed by the transporter and Cage turns away as if saying, what the hell he's toast. Well, he comes to that same reality with Rita at this point. It here where I think he decides, "I'm not going to find her and go it alone."

The writing was so good there because we find out at the same moment that Rita does.

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I don't think I get what you're saying here. We and she find out together that he is holding out?

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