Edge of Tomorrow
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Saturday, October 18, 2025 16:24
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Quote:I think the alternative ending in the book would make for a very unsatisfying movie. Tom Cruise promises the forever dead, with no hope of a reset, Emily Blunt:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I was disappointed in the ending because it was neatly, but quite abruptly tied up into a cute bow. It was, for me anyways, anti-climatic. But not in a totally dissatisfying way. It's just that after all that brilliant set up during the first 3/4 of the movie, it felt like they rushed those final scenes to fit the movie under a certain time. . . .
In my ending both Rita and Cage get to be heroes.
Quote:The book's ending was too Japanese for me.
While I live and breathe, humanity will never fall. I promise you. It may take a dozen years, but I will win this war for you. Even if you won’t be here to see it. You were the only person I wanted to protect, and you were gone.
Quote:That's not a good ending for a movie. www.amazon.com/All-Need-Kill-Hiroshi-Sakurazaka/dp/1421527618/
I sat there for some time holding the last cup of coffee she’d ever made, for someone she’d barely known. Its thin aroma stirred in me an insufferable longing and sadness. A small colony of blue-green mold bobbed on the surface of the coffee. Raising the cup to my lips, I drank.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Yes, I had read that the book's ending was too dark for public consumption. Tom Cruise "suggested" the happier ending, another take on the romantic comedy boy-meets-girl syndrome.
To me it felt like Tom Terrific set it up for Cage to be the ultimate hero, again saving the day. In my ending both top the hill, both are heroes.
She saves him (the training) which allows him to save her (reset the day).
Like they would listen to little old me.
SGG
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I think the alternative ending in the book would make for a very unsatisfying movie. Tom Cruise promises the forever dead, with no hope of a reset, Emily Blunt:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I was disappointed in the ending because it was neatly, but quite abruptly tied up into a cute bow. It was, for me anyways, anti-climatic. But not in a totally dissatisfying way. It's just that after all that brilliant set up during the first 3/4 of the movie, it felt like they rushed those final scenes to fit the movie under a certain time. . . .
In my ending both Rita and Cage get to be heroes.Quote:The book's ending was too Japanese for me.
While I live and breathe, humanity will never fall. I promise you. It may take a dozen years, but I will win this war for you. Even if you won’t be here to see it. You were the only person I wanted to protect, and you were gone.Quote:That's not a good ending for a movie. www.amazon.com/All-Need-Kill-Hiroshi-Sakurazaka/dp/1421527618/
I sat there for some time holding the last cup of coffee she’d ever made, for someone she’d barely known. Its thin aroma stirred in me an insufferable longing and sadness. A small colony of blue-green mold bobbed on the surface of the coffee. Raising the cup to my lips, I drank.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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LALALALA... *fingers in ears* I'm not listening!
I don't want to know anything about the book until I find it and read it myself, so I'm ignoring those posts. No offense. ;)
I like your mini-fanfic, SGG. On further thought, I want to add that in a book it'd be cool to see some of what happened in Verdun. Have Rita tell her story too.
So, I actually went to see this again on the weekend, just to follow up discussions here. One new observation: Rita's reaction the last time she meets Cage is in fact different than all the others. Her usual reaction is: "Who said you could talk to me? Have I got something on my face?"
The last time, when he is outfitted as a Major rather than a Private, she says: "Can I help you?"
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Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
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Which gives the victory away at the start, but come on, does anyone really doubt the good guys will win in a movie like this?
Win, there might be not doubt - but will they survive? All of them? Will only one of them survive? Neither of them? You really think there is no doubt with this? Perhaps you have not seen Oblivion? The protagonist we all admire does not survive, and he knew he would not when he made his ATTEMPT to end the strife, whether his attempt would be successful or not.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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I still don't understand your reference to the helicopter scene - why there what?
Repeating the question because I still didn't see a response, or answer. Or if I did, did not recognize it as such. Care to clarify?
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Looks interesting. Seems like another high-concept or thinker flick. Is Cruise working up an arc with Reacher, Oblivion, and now Edge of Tomorrow? I know some didn't pay attention to Oblivion, but it was another movie where the cinema audience which didn't pay attention during the showing were confused at the end, and those who did were explaining it to them. Sure, Reacher is a book series, but the flick was portrayed as a puzzle to solve until the last part.
Maybe Inception struck a chord.
Is he trying to copy Arnold's arc of Terminator, Predator, Total Recall? Or Paxton with Terminator, Weird Science (wasn't deep, but got him face time), Aliens? Or Biehn with Terminator, Aliens, Seventh Seal, Abyss? Or Pitt with Seven, 12 Monkeys, Sleepers?
I'm sure many have discounted Cruise's roles, but maybe his production partner is picking them better now.
Any comments?
Regarding the original proposition, it would seem that TC has gone on an arc with Oblivion and EoT which has gone over the heads of many viewers. I figured it was less subtle than the likes of Inception in each case, but I had not considered it all that much for the astute to get. I was not all that surprised by the amount of those in theater who did not get it, and were willing to have it explained to them - I see that a lot. However, those who I expected to keep up seem to have not met the challenge.
I understand many consider the lower box sales to be an indication of his personal issues, but I wonder if it is just that his audience has not been able to follow the genius of his recent flicks?
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I'm a little fuzzy on the timeline myself, but that moment on the bridge was a crucial moment.
JSF's opinions notwithstanding.............
To me the bridge scene was saying to us and to Cage - the battle at the beach was lost and now the aliens were IN London. The look on his face was "Shit, this is serious. I gotta do something NOW!" Then he resets. If I remember it correctly, it is then that he gets his game face on and bares down on his training that even Rita looks at him and says "Wow, look at him go." There is a great sequence where he's so focused that he destroys all the practice robots with such ease and assuredness.
The Bridge Scene (as I call it) was when he sees "this is it," as I stated above, but yeah it's been establish by brilliant writing.
But what Cage realizes is that the aliens must have won at the beach because here they are in London. it's like the final chess piece.
The Rita/Helicopter Death scene: Again the writing. It is here where we come to see just how much Cage cares for Rita. In an attempt to save her, he withholds the keys to the copter. With all his fussing over her, she figures it out. He's trying to hard to have her stay there, because he knows she dies and he can't stop or change it. It here where I think he decides, "I'm not going to find her and go it alone."
And........The attack on London and the middle-name helicopter death of Rita are what turned him around internally, because he has that connection to her and something to fight for.
Agreed. It is that connection that drives him, and so he goes out to reset the day, to save the women he loves.
SGG
Either I am missing your logic our you are missing mine.
Do you agree that 1. London and Bridge scenes occur AFTER the helicopter scene?
That 2. London and Bridge scenes occur WITHOUT Rita?
That 3. London and Bridge scenes occur AFTER he had already decided to not meet Rita and advance to that point without her?
That 4. London and Bridge scenes did not have Rita included in those reboots, she was not there, she could not "see the look on his face" or "see how he goes' or whatever?
I don't understand how you think the scene in London or Bridge could trigger him to not meet with Rita, when he is already without Rita in those scenes (and she did not die in those reboots, he would not continue if she had died). I don't currently understand why you would think those scenes would spur him to buckle down and take things seriously, when he had already passed that stage long before.
And, again, can you explain what you meant about your question about the helicopter scene?
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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And, again, can you explain what you meant about your question about the helicopter scene?
I'm curious too. I have no idea what you're talking about JSF LOL!
But surely you must recall that immediately after the Bridge scene is when Rita walks into the training hall to find Cage kicking ass. The man has suddenly become determined. After that he finally finds a way to get them off the beach. And then helicopter, and then *love*, and then he goes it alone.
(Though: when he goes it alone, did he let her die on the beach? Kind of ruins all the romance angles of the story if he did. So did he save her first? It would fit the arc much better if he did something like downing her transport in the Channel to keep her alive until he killed the Omega he thought he'd find in the dam. Otherwise, what's the point of going it alone? With her dead on the beach as she was the first several times around?
Plot hole there!)
And hey, JSF - how about you acknowledge being dense about how her reaction to meeting Cage in the last time loop MUST be the same as it always was, when even in the movie it is not...? Did you catch that?
Not good at admitting you're wrong, huh? Not good at admitting that you didn't actually read my posts to understand what I was saying?
/I do love getting hostile over meaningless interpretations of silly sci-fi movies, but only because JSF is so consistently hostile and it's satisfying to prove him/her wrong... that's what the internet is for.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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her reaction to meeting Cage in the last time loop MUST be the same as it always was, when even in the movie it is not...? Did you catch that?
You mean, solely because of his different rank/position? Is that what you mean?
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Not good at admitting you're wrong, huh? Not good at admitting that you didn't actually read my posts to understand what I was saying?
I read them. There was a reason I didn't waste more time responding again.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I'm a little fuzzy on the timeline myself, but that moment on the bridge was a crucial moment.
SGG
Either I am missing your logic our you are missing mine.
Do you agree that 1. London and Bridge scenes occur AFTER the helicopter scene?
That 2. London and Bridge scenes occur WITHOUT Rita?
That 3. London and Bridge scenes occur AFTER he had already decided to not meet Rita and advance to that point without her?
That 4. London and Bridge scenes did not have Rita included in those reboots, she was not there, she could not "see the look on his face" or "see how he goes' or whatever?
I don't understand how you think the scene in London or Bridge could trigger him to not meet with Rita, when he is already without Rita in those scenes (and she did not die in those reboots, he would not continue if she had died). I don't currently understand why you would think those scenes would spur him to buckle down and take things seriously, when he had already passed that stage long before.
And, again, can you explain what you meant about your question about the helicopter scene?
Have I misunderstood "the Bridge scene" reference? Do you mean when he was on the bike and looks down from the bridge? Or something else?
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