Herc's Speculation about Giles in 4.10 -- Can it be true?
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UPDATED: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 03:57
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From Herc @ AICN's 4.10 spoilers listed last week (previously linked by Hjermsted in another post):
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"There's very little info on The First, but what the council had, Giles swiped before the building blew. (One of the potential slayers actually handles this swiped info. As long rumored, Giles does not touch or move things. Is he really a manifestation of the First Evil? The First has so far impersonated only dead people; is Giles really dead?)"
Can it be? I mean, the last time we saw Giles, he had an axe just inches from the back of his skull!
Did anyone notice this when watching it last night? Has anyone watched their tapes again to see?
I am such a geek.
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Yeah, but I thought the First could only appear to one person at a time. But anyway, I hope not. Joss wouldn't be so cruel as to kill off Giles, I think.
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I noticed that Giles did kind of lie about the First--he said it could only appear as dead people, when just in the last episode it appeared as Buffy, right?
Also: Didn't the First appear as two people at once to Angel? I thought so...
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Originally posted by CharlieBlue:
I noticed that Giles did kind of lie about the First--he said it could only appear as dead people, when just in the last episode it appeared as Buffy, right?
My guess is he can just appear as people who DIED just a small mistake...cause in a way Spike and Dru aren't really dead since they're vampire and he appeared as both.
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Buffy did die.
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Did Giles actually touch anyone or anything through that whole ep? He could be the First if he is dead...wouldn't that be a smart way to railroad the Scoobies.
And, yes, Buffy died, not once, not twice, but three times...when she got shot she died right? So where's the third real slayer? And the fourth? And whose gonna warn Faith that the slayers are under attack?
So Drusilla wasn't dusted?
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There is a poll on the official buffy web site wether Giles is dead or not - this made me thinking even before yesterday's episode.
And also, besides Giles not touching anything, has anybody noticed that he:
- is in a really negative mood
- he was quite far away from the hole where Buffy got beaten up by the Ubervamp the first time? (I found this really odd, the fight was noisy and he just walks away?)
I mean, if Giles is really dead :-(, then it would be the perfect thing for the First to do to undermine the scoobies...
But if Giles is not really Giles, then we have only the word from the First that it can only impersonate dead people. So in that case, Giles could still be alive and just captured somewhere...
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Originally posted by Nonoluna:
And, yes, Buffy died, not once, not twice, but three times...when she got shot she died right? So where's the third real slayer? And the fourth?
Joss told it many times that the slayer powers can only be passed once by each slayer so unless Faith die we won't have any new slayer
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Giles has to still be alive. Joss is still planning to do the spinoff show "Ripper" on the BBC someday. If he kills Giles on Buffy, that puts the kibosh on that entire series.
Giles is acting strangely, maybe he's in a kind of shock... even though he has been detached from the council, it's still something that has been important to his family for generations, and now it is destroyed. Plus, Buffy's biggest weakness has always been that she doesn't know how to fight anything she can't kill. Look at how she handled the Mayor in Season 3. She bascially just took everything he dished out until the Ascension when he was suddenly killable again. She didn't know what to do about Glory until the last episode of that season. Even when they brought her back and there was that creapy demon that kept possessing everyone... she kept trying to fight it with slayer moves, which was completely meaningless until Willow forced it to take a form she could kill.
Maybe Giles really believes that this time it is the end, and Buffy can't stop it. That could explain a bit of his defeatest attitude.
I have more faith in the Scoobs than that. I know they will find a way to at least beat the first back. I don't think they'll be able to kill it. Just as killing every slayer would upset the balance of good and evil, killing the first would do the same.
Wonder if this really is the last season if they will kill Buffy. This is certainly a worthy adversary to defeat her. Maybe she and Faith both die and Kennedy takes over as slayer/hellmouth guardian/willow's girlfriend.
Sorry, went off topic there... we were talking about Giles. :D I don't think he's dead.
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EDIT: About Buffy's many deaths... She didn't die last season from Warren's bullet, although Willow said she would have had she not used magicks to heal her.
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bobknaptor wrote:
Thursday, December 19, 2002 07:19
Giles has to still be alive. Joss is still planning to do the spinoff show "Ripper" on the BBC someday. If he kills Giles on Buffy, that puts the kibosh on that entire series.
Except that I'd heard somewhere that "Ripper" was a prequel concept... it takes place, supposedly, in Giles' pre-sunnydale days.
Then again, I may be mistaken.
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