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capitalism, by definition, is a stupid and foolish human system

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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:08 AM


Query: incorporate legal definitiion


incorporate
Use Incorporate in a sentence
in·cor·po·rate
1 [v. in-kawr-puh-reyt; adj. in-kawr-per-it, -prit] Show IPA
verb (used with object), in·cor·po·rat·ed, in·cor·po·rat·ing.
1.
to form into a legal corporation.


corporation
Use Corporation in a sentence
cor·po·ra·tion
[kawr-puh-rey-shuhn] Show IPA
noun
1.
an association of individuals, created by law or under authority of law, having a continuous existence independent of the existences of its members, and powers and liabilities distinct from those of its members. See also municipal corporation, public corporation.

Query: supreme court corporation rights

Corporate personhood

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:14 AM

Yes, to form a legal corporation as dictated by the State. What is your point?

You still can't change those laws to steal peoples business from them.

si shen


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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:17 AM

My point is that SignyM is right and you're wrong, once again.


SignyM: In the economic sense, to incorporate means "to form a legal corporation"- to make a synthetic human being (incorporare, to make a body). There is nothing natural about corporations




Query: incorporate legal definitiion


incorporate
Use Incorporate in a sentence
in·cor·po·rate
1 [v. in-kawr-puh-reyt; adj. in-kawr-per-it, -prit] Show IPA
verb (used with object), in·cor·po·rat·ed, in·cor·po·rat·ing.
1.
to form into a legal corporation.


corporation
Use Corporation in a sentence
cor·po·ra·tion
[kawr-puh-rey-shuhn] Show IPA
noun
1.
an association of individuals, created by law or under authority of law, having a continuous existence independent of the existences of its members, and powers and liabilities distinct from those of its members. See also municipal corporation, public corporation.



Query: supreme court corporation rights

Corporate personhood

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood



TH: "Incorporation means to join with something that already exists."
And you are so very, very wrong.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:28 AM

What a moron, you are using a very narrow interpretation to make an invalid point.

Here is the problem with you signym and you 1kiki. You are both Socialists and are continually complaining about capitalism. Much of the complaint is justified. It is when you interject personal feelings about making it better that you run amuck.

Example:

You complain about the injustice of the way resources are distributed. Rightfully so, but then you imply we should take from the few and give it to fewer as though that will show them. Being Socialists you believe this can be done. It can not. Again, Russia post Gorbachev.

Your both nuts.


si shen


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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:33 AM

So, you think that when people are talking about economic and legal topics we shouldn't use the appropriate definitions, we should use irrelevant ones, like you do. Ones you base your entire argument on. Got it.

"... but then you imply we should take from the few and give it to fewer ..."

Where did I imply that? Find a quote anywhere.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:55 AM

Holly Shit, 1kiki you keep agreeing with signym and her you. If you don’t agree with her posts or her yours then you both need to stop defending each other’s points.

You want to take away profit.

Quote:

…1kiki

We need to get rid of the idea of PROFIT.



Even government cannot get rid of profit. Somebody always gets something. Especially in a democracy, it cannot be done. To determine there is to be no profit, you must own the business or declare it a non-profit which means tax exempt. No profits, no taxes, eventually no government. (I.E Russia, post Gorbachev)

There seems to be a theme here, yet I can’t quite put my finger on it? …..

Here we go round the mulberry bush....

And here's where I bid you adieu. You want a socialist country and I do not. Here is a current list of socialist countries. Take your pick and send me a post card.

Sorry the list of failed states was too long to cut and paste so here is the link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_socialist_countries



People's Republic of China 1 October 1949 Communist Party of China Xi Jinping
(since 2012) Li Keqiang
(since 2012)
Republic of Cuba 1 July 1961 Communist Party of Cuba Raúl Castro
(since 2006)
Lao People's Democratic Republic 2 December 1975 Lao People's Revolutionary Party Choummaly Sayasone
(since 2006) Thongsing Thammavong
(since 2010)
Socialist Republic of Vietnam 2 July 1976 Communist Party of Vietnam Nguyen Phu Trong
(since 2011) Truong Tan Sang
(since 2011) Nguyen Tan Dung
(since 2006)






si shen


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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:02 AM

"Somebody always gets something."

Yes, if you work you should get rewarded with the value of your labor. Hm. How MANY times have I made that point? If you invest you should be able to get your investment back plus interest for inflation. I KNOW I made that point at least once. Where have I said nobody gets anything? I even said EVERYTHING ELSE STAYS THE SAME. Private ownership? check. Corporate ownership? check. Public owner ship? check. Stock market? check. Banks? check. I'm not sure I can be more explicit when I say EVERYTHING.

" You want a socialist country ..." nice lie. I have never posted that (which is why you couldn't come up with a quote) or even implied it. I asked you to prove that claim of yours. You failed completely. Because, why again? I never posted or even implied such a thing.

The problem with profit - as I pointed out earlier, a shortcoming real economists have been trying to fix for over 100 years - is that eventually all the money ends up in the hands of investors and none in the hands of workers/ consumers. I think the way to fix this problem is to get rid of the idea of profit. IE: people don't get free money just because they put some money into something a long time ago. I think my solution could keep an economy rolling along indefinitely without crashing into that endpoint so many economists have been struggling over.

So, I gotta ask, how does it feel to be a chronic liar? And how does it feel to be rappy's twin? Yanno, flouncing off with your lies in tatters?




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 5:56 AM

Quote:

…..1kiki
worse than believing this is the way things should be as opposed to any other system - don't even cognate that there ARE different systems, that things have been different in history, are different around the globe, and will be different in the future.
Traditionally, we are shown the dangers of non-Capitalism. Look at the cold war & the whole Red scare thing... make anything non-Capitalist scary & dangerous.
knowledge leads to inability to learn new information or even direct experience.
I think one answer is to limit profit to payback of initial investment plus accrued interest over the time the current amount of money is still outstanding, rather than have it as a 'free money' card ad infinitum.
And if they invested their money, all that investment should be paid back to them with inflation compensation.
We can keep everything the same, and just get rid of 'profit'.
It's just that people who own a business shouldn't get a 'free money for nothing forever' card.



Read your statements. It shows you have a complete lack of understanding of economics not to mention what it means to live in a free society. To implement what you suggest it means government completely controls all aspects of the economics of your business. We have this today, it is called being a government agency.

In just a few moments I was able to find a few things to show you that you would have to change things in the constitution and Bill of Rights to enforce what you suggest. Good bye freedom.

Constitution:

6: No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another: nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.

Bill of Rights

Section 1. That all men are by nature equally free and independent and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety.
Section

6. That elections of members to serve as representatives of the people, in assembly ought to be free; and that all men, having sufficient evidence of permanent common interest with, and attachment to, the community, have the right of suffrage and cannot be taxed or deprived of their property for public uses without their own consent or that of their representatives so elected, nor bound by any law to which they have not, in like manner, assembled for the public good.


si shen


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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:39 AM

So, I DIDN'T promote a socialist economy! You're catching on!





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Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:53 AM

In going over all your posts I realized you did not possess the intellect needed to promote any type of economic system. So yes you are right.

si shen


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