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I bet this wouldn't have happened if she was wearking a burkah...

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Sunday, June 15, 2014 12:34 PM

C'mon now, if we stopped blaming women for being harrassed and raped, then the men who do it would have to take responsibility. But they can't you see. If they get aroused, they'll just rape ya. It's in their nature. Horny little bastards. I mean really, they are so uncontrollable and uncontained, they really should all either

a) live on an island somewhere
b) come back to society only if they have their gonads cut off

because to expect them not to grope and rape and hurt is really asking too much.

Boys will be boys.

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Sunday, June 15, 2014 1:03 PM

Wish

That whole train of thought is why women are made to wear burqahs. Because men just can't control themselves, women must be made to cover themselves from head to toe. And never go out in public without a male relative. And submit to the requirements of their owners ... I mean, fathers, brothers, husbands and sons. Just so, yanno, the men aren't tempted beyond their feeble limits into sin. That's why women must be treated like voiceless chattel. To protect men from themselves.



OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."

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Monday, June 16, 2014 3:36 AM

Exactly right

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Monday, June 16, 2014 4:12 AM

From what I've seen there MUST be a gene in many Arabic and Indian men that has hormones that make them less intelligent and more aggressive when they get aroused... (relics of primitive man)

They can go to work, be married, raise kids, graduate college, and when not aroused KNOW that rape is wrong, but the second it goes up and that predatory chance happens their IQ goes DOWN... (even if they DON'T know it is wrong they still know they go to jail if they get caught so they know they SHOULDN'T do it)

I think it's the same reason why the Germans went after the Jews. They had to know that Jewish people are less apt to fight back...

Like I said, you can expect people do MANY things, but they are going to do whatever they want to do. I can expect when I tell my kids' teachers about her learning disability and I print out the info, and I bring it in there and explain that they should be able to get it. They don't. Only ONE teacher in the last six years has tried.


By NOW every man in our society KNOWS rape is wrong. But it still happens!
WHY IS THAT??

1. Either they lack the mental process to fully realize it to begin with.
2. Something else happens that we don't fully understand when they get horny.

You can stand there and smack their hands when they do something they KNOW is wrong, or you can protect yourself. I choose to be proactive. You choose to rail against the horrors and the flaws in human thinking or physiology.

WHICH ONE MAKES MORE SENSE???

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Monday, June 16, 2014 4:18 AM

I really think you all think that

fully formed human=capability of rationality in all cases.

YOU COULDN'T be further from the truth if you tried.

Yes, they should still be punished for wrongdoing, but sometimes there are hidden processes at work in DNA, in brain working and chemistry that come into play that we just don't fully understand...

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Monday, June 16, 2014 4:25 AM

The same argument also applies to women too. Women are less likely to fight back, more likely to back down, more likely to poison people instead of other kinds of murder, less likely to be tall, more likely to do better in all subjects in school than men, ect...

Why is it such a stretch that men are more likely to be unreasonably sexually aggressive as a result of survival of the fittest??

Eons ago, the men who conquered more and were more aggressive spread more DNA and enhanced their own survival. It's not that hard for me to believe that we are still seeing those traits even today...

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Monday, June 16, 2014 4:56 AM

That whole thing about aggressive men and their DNA - it's an idea dating from the late 1800s and easily challenged with a little logic. Can you imagine a female way back in evolutionary past - prey to all those sexually aggressive males? So there she is - one in the oven, one in her arms so she's not going to be doing much, one barely toddling and putting EVERYthing in the mouth, two playing at will and MAYBE one or two older ones actually helping her gather food. How do they get enough food to survive?

It's not how many children are BORN that determines whose DNA gets passed along - it's how many of those children SURVIVE to pass that DNA along ... and so on generation to generation.

The whole idea of a rapist gender isn't sustainable in evolutionary terms.



OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."

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Monday, June 16, 2014 5:45 AM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
From what I've seen there MUST be a gene in many Arabic and Indian men that has hormones that make them less intelligent and more aggressive when they get aroused... (relics of primitive man)




OMG I can't believe you posted such shit.

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Monday, June 16, 2014 6:38 AM

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fully formed human=capability of rationality in all cases.

YOU COULDN'T be further from the truth if you tried.

Yes, they should still be punished for wrongdoing, but sometimes there are hidden processes at work in DNA, in brain working and chemistry that come into play that we just don't fully understand...



I think the main problem with this argument is that we're equating "gets drunk and takes their clothes off" irrational lack of control with "gets drunk and rape-y" irrational lack of control.

One of those we absolutely SHOULD prosecute, regardless of the events or "enticements" that might have led up to that situation. The other one doesn't hurt anyone, except maybe our eyes and sanity.

Also, there's a pretty major difference in culture, so while tendencies might exist in a lot of the male population, it's more that certain cultures are a lot more permissive and encouraging that kind of behaviour than certain racial genes are more primitive and rapey.

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Monday, June 16, 2014 6:45 AM

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Why is it such a stretch that men are more likely to be unreasonably sexually aggressive as a result of survival of the fittest??


Actually, no. Rape has very little to do with producing children. Many rape victims die from their injuries, and there's also a suicide risk from the emotional trauma. And, well, Todd Akins is full of shit and you CAN actually conceive from a rape, but the incidence of successful implantation and pregnancy from rape is actually a little bit lower compared to a regular pregnancy (again due to the trauma from the event - lots of body resources going to recovery, very little towards sustaining a pregnancy).

But this difference is actually peanuts really - both the incidence rates of pregnancy are incredibly low, in that a non-rape scenario is about 3%, and a rape scenario is 1%.

What is most likely to produce children is actual relationships persisting at least two years, as young infants are rather hard for a single parent to deal with, and two parents (or a community) trading off responsibility is a lot more successful a model. Not to mention, you have to have sex with the same person a LOT of times to actually cause a pregnancy, so a one time rape just doesn't cut it.

Your scenario and evolutionary biology theory would be more correct if very young humans were capable of running and feeding themselves early on and required little parental involvement or allocation of resources.

The best a rape might do is mitigate the rapists feelings of inferiority or evolutionary dead-end-ness, but really that's probably not on the top of their minds when they're doing it.

The biggest problem with rape is more a tendency for rage and entitlement issues to transform abruptly into sexual aggression, or for both parties to be too drunk to recognize a clear "no" signal from one of the parties and stop. Neither of which are intrinsically a male problem.

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