I bet this wouldn't have happened if she was wearking a burkah...

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, June 6, 2014 8:32 PM

http://gothamist.com/2014/06/05/music_fest_sexual_assault.php

The above photo was snapped a few weeks ago at Mysteryland, a Woodstock-based affair in which neon-clad EDM heads sway to various strains of house music for a whole buzz-filled weekend. But amid lighthearted photos of friends lying on the lawn and posing with a giant stuffed bear, this photo gave us pause. Had we captured a sexual assault?

Our photographer provided us with some context:

The previous photos show how some women climbed on to the speaker and were dancing, which was fine until a bunch of people started jumping the barricade and dancing in front of the stage, which was still kind of fine until it got too crowded so they ejected everyone. In the process of ushering everyone out, one dude from the audience took the opportunity to spank this woman a couple times, which was followed by a different guy just up and grabbing her. She got down after that.

He added also that she was still dancing as she climbed down, and it did not seem like she knew the man who grabbed her.

Her reaction was simply a mild look of distaste and then climbing down on the opposite side of the speaker than her grabber was on. She didn't say anything. If there were any other reactions they were too mild to notice. Worth noting is that a different guy had spanked her a bit right before the other guy went full grab, and she didn't seem to mind/react to that. But the grabber was too much, it seemed.

Such unsolicited gropings occur at music festivals all the time, often leaving women feeling uncomfortable, annoyed, or blatantly violated (sometimes all three). Confronting your assailant is not only awkward, it's often met with ridicule. Saying nothing perpetuates the idea that such behavior is OK, or is at least tolerated. Let's be clear: it's not, and it shouldn't be.

I'm sorry..... This is NOT sexual assault, and to believe that it IS or to even try to tell us that it IS sexual assault is to completely make illegitimate the horrors that women and children have actually endured. I have two female friends who have been victims of sexual assault as well as two family members who were REAL victims of an ACTUAL crime.

Were these guys Assholes? Most definitely. I know my momma didn't raise me to be that way. If being an Asshole in America made you a criminal they'd have to just build a brick wall and ceiling around the entire country, because let's face it, I see 10 things people do every day that irritate me. I'm no saint either, by the way.... although I do have to apologize that I don't have a police record to prove it, unless you're including speeding tickets from my youth..... ;)

You know what officer? She sexually assaulted ME! Here I was enjoying a few beers and maybe a joint with some friends watching Tom Petty rock on stage and this chick gets up on the speaker and gives me a huge boner.... I don't care that she didn't touch me. I came to the concert to listen to some great music and this girl comes out of nowhere rocking her hot young body in a stripper outfit in front of me and made me think about cheating on my [theoretical] wife who is standing right next to me.

She's an Asshole too. You're out in public. This isn't Coyote Ugly. There's a few pre-pubessent boys two rows behind you that you just turned into men.

She was drunk. They were drunk. People tend to be Assholes when they're drunk. Trust me.... I KNOW ;)

If they should be locked up for sexual assault, she should be locked up for indecent exposure, and I'm just hoping it's a co-ed prison and I'm the lucky guy to share a cell with her for any one of very numerous terrible things I've said on these boards while drinking.

Just another example of taking good intentions to the insane extreme.....

BTW... I don't have any reason to believe that this girl was an Assh

AGENTROUKA

Friday, June 6, 2014 9:14 PM

You know, acknowledging your alcoholism with a winky smile doesn't make it any less of an problem, nor the misogynist bullshit you post any less pathetic.

DEVERSE

Friday, June 6, 2014 9:43 PM

Explain where it is - at exactly what point is it that sexual assault starts so there is a basis for context for the discussion.
Exactly what has to happen for sexual assault to have occurred? At what point is groping a woman just being an asshole groping another asshole and when does it cross the line?
Is her being an asshole part of the conditions for sexual assault to occur or not occur? What if she isn't being an asshole - is it still not sexual assault if just the male is being an asshole?
I also wonder why the age thing is a consideration. If slapping and grabbing an 18 year old's butt isn't sexual assault, then why would it be if one did it to a 12 year old? Is being an asshole age limited?

Honestly, when I see girls do this type of thing, drunk, stoned or sober, paid or not paid; I am embarrassed for them - not aroused or thinking "hey, they must want some guy to grope or rape them". And please, the next time you are in a club where the girls are being paid to dance, get a bit drunk and then go fondle one, just to experiment to see what happens. If you survive the experiment with all of your teeth intact you might have an understanding of some basic rules. Just because there is no one specifically protecting girls from sexual assault doesn't mean the rules don't exist and their right to be safe from some asshole groping them (or worse) is null and void - even if they are being an asshole.

And while I do agree that in some cases they are being assholes, because being an asshole isn't restricted to gender, being an asshole doesn't give someone else the right to slap or grope them or anything else.

Oh let the sun beat down upon my face;
With stars to fill my dream;
I am a traveler of both time and space;
To be where I have been

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, June 6, 2014 10:49 PM

Good questions DEVERSE, but I think that I implied what I could while stating what facts I could from a "supposed on the scene encounter". Chances are, this article was written as a "journal" by somebody with twice the creative mind I have when they saw a few pics posted on Instagram and they made it into a whole "on the scene" thing....

I'm not going to bother defending my point to people who will blindly argue it. I already made my case quite clear in the initial post.

If you want "proof", as would I. Find the barely-clad girl in this photo and as her opinion about gross old guys touching her butt that she was willingly dancing nearly-naked in front of them well within farting-distance.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

WISHIMAY

Saturday, June 7, 2014 2:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AgentRouka:
You know, acknowledging your alcoholism with a winky smile doesn't make it any less of an problem, nor the misogynist bullshit you post any less pathetic.

Well, that should help him drink less *facepalm....

AGENTROUKA

Saturday, June 7, 2014 5:25 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:
Originally posted by AgentRouka:
You know, acknowledging your alcoholism with a winky smile doesn't make it any less of an problem, nor the misogynist bullshit you post any less pathetic.

Well, that should help him drink less *facepalm....

Your point being?

I don't really care about him drinking less. I don't care about him as a person at all. I have no desire to save him, but I see no point in ignoring his drinking problem when he constantly brings it up.

I would perhaps have more sympathy if most of his posts weren't about his sickening attitude toward women. But the repetitive tirades continue, so no, can't say much more than that I find him pathetic.

AURAPTOR

Saturday, June 7, 2014 5:37 AM

" Sexual assault " can mean anything from forcible rape to a unwanted kiss on the cheek, or pat on the backside.

What a load of go-se. Call things what they are, and stop this PC garbage.

WISHIMAY

Saturday, June 7, 2014 6:10 AM

Uhhhh. And you people wonder why I'm not a fan of humanity. It can't keep it's hands to itself like they tell you in kiddygarten, and it has no consideration for people who aren't operating with a full manual.

Six, hon, the booze isn't winning you any philosophy points. And it's not going to make you happier in the long run. I get that you have attention span issues so lemme use the big print...

STOP DRINKING AND SMOKING AND SELF HARMING TO GET BY. RWED IS NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR A LICENCED SHRINK. WHICH YOU DO NEED. THE STUFF YOU POST ISN'T NORMAL.

Now don't say everyone is against you and pout. Stop making excuses and go get yer head on straight, m'kay? I know you aren't a bad person, but I can't ignore your problems anymore. I hate humanity too, but in this case it actually IS you that's the problem. If I hada guess, I'd say A.D.D. It's probably also why you are having problems at work and can't relate to women. They make pills that will make your life easier, they really do.

Now, you've got good points and I want you to come back and talk music, but I want you to go get help MORE. Please, Six. You can do it buddy...

AURAPTOR

Saturday, June 7, 2014 6:54 AM

Kinda agree w/ the consensus on the drinking, 6IX. As one who use to imbibe copious amounts, from time to time, I get the appeal. But don't be a slave to anyone or anything. You'll be happier for it.

JONGSSTRAW

Saturday, June 7, 2014 9:04 AM

In "Gimme Shelter" we see a totally naked, clearly wasted 'Rubenesque' girl work her way towards the stage while The Rolling Stones are playing. As she gets to the stage a couple of Hell's Angels grab her and knock her to the ground with pool cues. Later she is seen bleeding from the head. Whaddaya gonna do?

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