Flirting with Fascism
POSTED BY: FREMDFIRMA
UPDATED: Monday, July 10, 2023 17:00
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Flirting with Fascism.
Okay, now I mentioned in another thread how Nazis are the go-to bad example cause no one PUBLICLY admits to liking them...
Here's the other side of that coin - within this country, there's always been a substantial faction which idolized them to the point of all but licking their jackboots.
From the very pre-fascism beginnings, the first "Red Scare", which was all about breaking the power of labor and peace, cause of those damn peacenik union commie-anarchists who dared to want a fair wage and decent working hours...
Who, mind you, spilled their own blood to buy that for you, despite the fact that you're encouraged to hate them for this and slobber all over the "benevolent corporate masters" who in all truth were more or less forced into it in order to not face a goddamn revolution...
To our support of Franco, which lasted well into the 1970's, despite some americans (See Also: Abraham Lincoln Brigade) defying this and fighting for the other side.
And our cuddling up to "Uncle Joe" Stalin, and all them rightwing dictator scum we propped up, not least of which was the fucking Shah in 1953, which is what lead to the immense blowback we're suffering even now, aggravated by further support of such criminal slime like Osama, Saddam, and Kharazi, all of which we created or propped up in the first goddamn place.
The NeoCons are only an extension of this, and while mostly without regard to "side" given that they started as Democrats (See Also: Scoop Jackson), these days without fail the balance of these NeoFeudoFascist scum are all on ONE side of the political spectrum, as so-called-conservatives, following the proven failure of Mussolinnis economic policies ever since Shrub was "installed" to office in an "election" less credible than that which lofted ole Adolph to power.
And yes, that ratbastard Hitler was ELECTED, mostly by people who had been so totally fucked economically by (conservative) bankers over supposed war reperations that children starved in the streets, which OF COURSE, lead to those people grabbing at any straw that could save them, only to find out in the end what poison it was.
But all the while, right here in America there was SO MUCH support for Fascism it wasn't even funny - to the point of the Corporate overlords who thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread to watch Franco and Mussolinni slaughter those damn uppity peons, wanting to stage a fucking coup, and getting cockblocked by Smedley Butler, who had a change of heart upon realizing the consequences of such things.
(See Also: Business Plot)
To the Silver Shirts (who ran a candidate for president in 1936) and the American Legion , the Fascist League, and the German-American Bund, a substantive portion of America was all rah-rah-rah for this bullshit, only when the truth of it came to pass suddently none of them ever supported it ever - the same way all those "W" bumperstickers disappeared with a quiet little scrape-scrape in the middle of the night when they realized what a moron and disaster he was, not that they'd ADMIT it no.
And yes, that is not hyperbole, if you go and check newspaper articles of the time, the American Legion (already notorious for violence against Labor) WHOLEHEARTEDLY supported Fascism well up into the 1940s.
http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/anarchism/writers/anarcho/usa/america
nlegion.html
Which is why I find them despicable and let them fucking know it - cause they're still racist, sexist, antiunion troglodytes of the worst order... oh and don't try telling me so-and-so is a good person who doesn't know this, any more than telling me so-and-so is a good person despite being in the fuckin Klan, they are what they are.
This support included such noteables as Charles Lindbergh, Henry Ford, William Heart, fuck, prettymuch ALL of "Corporate America", really.
http://www.rationalrevolution.net/war/american_supporters_of_the_europ
.htm
Of cour
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*And a little followup, regarding Catalonian Anarchists.
Quote:
It was the kind of effort that
could probably only be made by people who were fighting with a
revolutionary intention--i.e. believed that they were fighting for
something better than the status quo. In the various centres of revolt
it is thought that three thousand people died in the streets in a single
day. Men and women armed only with sticks of dynamite rushed across the
open squares and stormed stone buildings held by trained soldiers with
machine-guns. Machine-gun nests that the Fascists had placed at
strategic spots were smashed by rushing taxis at them at sixty miles an
hour. Even if one had heard nothing of the seizure of the land by the
peasants, the setting up of local Soviets, etc., it would be hard to
believe that the Anarchists and Socialists who were the backbone of the
resistance were doing this kind of thing for the preservation of
capitalist democracy, which especially in the Anarchist view was no more
than a centralized swindling machine.
Orwell - Homage to Catalonia
They fought until there prettmuch WERE no Anarchists left - with rifles, then dynamite, and finally, bricks, and knives and bare hands.
And all for naught, thanks in part to AMERICAN support of Franco.
Never for a moment have we ever forgotten it.
And this is why Anarchists, as a whole, have not thrown in with Occupy or any other movement since, cause they will only ever do that again if they think victory is possible, if the rug will not be pulled out from under em midstream by collaboration or surrender on behalf of their "allies" - as I have said many a time, if they ever weigh in for real, you will KNOW.
Believe me, if you ever hear "A las Barricadas"... *RUN*.
(Anarchists use this in the same fashion as a Viking Death Chant, when they know they're finished and plan to go down swinging.)
-Frem
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It's always really funny when pictures get posted of someone somewhat famous dressed up as a Nazi for the kicks, and it ain't Halloween. Because then you know.
(Sometimes even when it's Halloween)
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FF to Citizens United, the Kochs' $125 million to buy the government they want just this term, and voter purges.
The best democracy money can buy.
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Great thread, Frem.
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Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Great thread, Frem.
Yeah, great. I think he wants you to empty his chamber pot now Horatio.
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Uh huh, Jongsie has nothin, so he pulls out his last go-to straw there.
But answer me this.
Who was right about the infiltration and sabotage of Occupy ?
Who was right about the degree of spying going on, Main Core, and all the other dragnets ?
Who was right about Gardasil ?
Who was right, chapter and verse, and called the whole damn situation in advance regarding Lower Merion ?
Who was right about Romney getting handed his ass by Obama ?
Seriously, do I need to go down the whole goddamn list of just how many times us "crazies" were correct, chapter and verse, in the face of the laughable and pathetic denials and excuses of enablers like you ?
Might be worth evaluating on the basis of historical record here just which one of us needs the straightjacket, you drooling troglodyte, especially since every single one of the statements above has massive historical evidence to support it.
And what do you have, but a crazy handful of nothin.
-Frem
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Jackbooted thugs ... got it. Massive historical evidence ... okay. Drooling troglodytes ... check. All good stuff for your manifesto, because after all, deranged social misfit psychos like you simply must have a manifesto.
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Oh Jongsie, remember THIS thread, hmmm ?
In Cold War, U.S. Spy Agencies Used 1,000 Nazis
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/27/us/in-cold-war-us-spy-agencies-used-
1000-nazis.html
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WASHINGTON — In the decades after World War II, the C.I.A. and other United States agencies employed at least a thousand Nazis as Cold War spies and informants and, as recently as the 1990s, concealed the government’s ties to some still living in America, newly disclosed records and interviews show.
At the height of the Cold War in the 1950s, law enforcement and intelligence leaders like J. Edgar Hoover at the F.B.I. and Allen Dulles at the C.I.A. aggressively recruited onetime Nazis of all ranks as secret, anti-Soviet “assets,” declassified records show.
Because the only folk who loved the Nazis even *more* than Corporate America were the fucking jackboots of our alphabet agencies, who more or less wanted to BE them, sure hell they act like it.
Worth a mention since this article skips it, is how these murderous pissants were neck deep in Operation Gladio and the terrorism spawned from it, particularly in Italy.
And of course, if even THAT ain't enough evidence of goosestepper bootlicking for you, how about this one.
Expelled Nazis paid millions in Social Security
http://news.yahoo.com/expelled-nazis-paid-millions-social-security-010
341906.html
Quote:
In 1989, as the U.S. government prepared to strip him of his citizenship, Denzinger packed a pair of suitcases and fled to Germany. Denzinger later settled in this pleasant town on the Drava River, where he lives comfortably, courtesy of U.S. taxpayers. He collects a Social Security payment of about $1,500 each month, nearly twice the take-home pay of an average Croatian worker.
Denzinger, 90, is among dozens of suspected Nazi war criminals and SS guards who collected millions of dollars in Social Security payments after being forced out of the United States, an Associated Press investigation found.
The payments flowed through a legal loophole that has given the U.S. Justice Department leverage to persuade Nazi suspects to leave. If they agreed to go, or simply fled before deportation, they could keep their Social Security, according to interviews and internal government records.
Of course, that is only part of the truth, because this story in combination with the one above makes it obvious that this was how the "assets" above were being paid, elsewise it might have been a little hard to explain why the american govt or factions thereof were paying Nazis.
And of course, this traditional affection has obviously held up all these years, given Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatts wholehearted support of both Neo and 2nd/3rd generation OG Nazis in fucking over the Ukraine, including at least five million in direct payments, by their own admission in a recorded telephone call which has been independently verified.
So once again, here we are, what with us "crazies" being dead-bang-right...
AGAIN.
Perhaps you oughta start reinvestigating your definition of that word, cause I don't think it means what you wish it did.
-Frem
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