TV channels to rubbish Kerry as ' Traitor ' on eve of US election

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STILLDRAGONS

Wednesday, October 13, 2004 7:24 AM

Thanks, soupcatcher. You know, my posts (due to the nature of the thread) have been predominantly political, but, all that aside, I can't wait for April 22, 2005!

Heck, I can't wait until a teaser or a trailer for the flick is released.

I'm a huge fan of the show and absolutely love what Whedon was doing by re-envisioning the Western as space opera.

No matter what our RL disagreements on politics, I'm sure that we all agree that 22/4/2005 will be a due of wonder and wow!

SERGEANTX

Wednesday, October 13, 2004 7:30 AM

I'm not sure the documentary will be as damning as has been suggested. Or maybe I'm just hoping that people aren't really as stupid as Bush campaigners think.

From what I've heard, the big beef is that Kerry came back from the Vietnam war and then turned around and protested it. Good for him. It was another fucked up war we shouldn't have been in. If the boat captains can't see that, they're only making fools out of themselves.

Of course they'll try to dumb it down to some kind of "Kerry hates soldiers" kind of thing, but I just think people are starting to see through this junk. I say let them show it. It might be good for a few laughs.

And before anyone starts the labeling, I'm anything but a Kerry supporter. Kerry is too liberal. He's a typical statist tax-and-spend democrat. But I'm voting for him anyway because of what he isn't. He isn't a born-again, nut-job working as nothing more than a puppet for neo-nazis.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

SOUPCATCHER

Wednesday, October 13, 2004 7:35 AM

Amen to that, stilldragons!

Depending on how you feel about spoilers, there is a lot of information from conventions that the cast has given out on the site. The General Discussions section archives have a lot of threads with reports of fans who went to the conventions as well as fans who were actually extras in the movie! Plenty of pictures and there is a trailer somewhere on the site that was taped from the San Diego comic convention trailer Joss showed.

Plus, plenty of great fan artwork and fan fiction in the Blue Sun room. Lots and lots of stuff to help us pass the time before April.

Okay, back to the Sinclair thread

There are three kinds of people: fighters, lovers, and screamers.

STILLDRAGONS

Wednesday, October 13, 2004 7:45 AM

Thanks for the info on spoilers. I'll check it out. I've been a regular over at the Angel and Buffy spoiler boards for years! I'll look for that trailer, too. Much obliged! 'Preciate ya!

STILLDRAGONS

Wednesday, October 13, 2004 8:41 AM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
But I'm voting for him anyway because of what he isn't. He isn't a born-again, nut-job working as nothing more than a puppet for neo-nazis.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

Wow, I LOVE how you stay away from the labels. Born again? You use the same criticism against Kerry when he panders/pops up in a black church on Sunday? Nut job? Try a schizophrenic embrace/repudiation of military service ("reminiscent of Genghis Khan") by the Democraps. Neo-Nazi? My dear sir, I only WISH I got to throw a critic in the oven every time he trotted out that old saw. I'd put you at the front of the list. ;-) As a Jew, however, I find your use of the phrase both offensive and ignorant. :-(

STILLDRAGONS

Wednesday, October 13, 2004 8:52 AM

JOHN EDWARDS: If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again.

You gotta appreciate the stones on a bloke to make a promise like that. Elect us and the lame will walk and lepers will be healed.

Good thing Edwards and Kerry aren't "born-again," huh? No telling what "nut-job" thing these Neo-Commie puppets might start promising.

STILLDRAGONS

Wednesday, October 13, 2004 8:54 AM

You know, whoever said "hypocrisy, thy name is woman" was probably talking to a Democrap woman.

GEEZER

Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by Succatash:

Geezer, you're avoiding the scary part -- it's being reported as NEWS - News on network television.

This isn't a fat man's independent movie you are paying for.

"News is exempt from federal equal-time rules, said Andrew Jay Schwartzman, president of the Media Access Project."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/washpost/20041012/tc_washpost
/a25406_2004oct11

Mr. Moore represents his documentary as the truth. Sinclair represents their "news special" as the truth. They're both trying to influence people. Don't you think that the media does this all the time?

I find it interesting that it's all the folk who usually come across as liberal here who are the ones arguing for supression of freedom of speech. I find F911 total bulls*it propaganda, but if people want to watch it at $9.95 a pop, or even for free, that's fine with me. You don't even want to allow folk to make up their own minds about watching the Sinclair broadcast. Does this seem right to you?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

SERGEANTX

Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by stilldragons:
Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
But I'm voting for him anyway because of what he isn't. He isn't a born-again, nut-job working as nothing more than a puppet for neo-nazis.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

Wow, I LOVE how you stay away from the labels. Born again? You use the same criticism against Kerry when he panders/pops up in a black church on Sunday? Nut job? Try a schizophrenic embrace/repudiation of military service ("reminiscent of Genghis Khan") by the Democraps. Neo-Nazi? My dear sir, I only WISH I got to throw a critic in the oven every time he trotted out that old saw. I'd put you at the front of the list. ;-) As a Jew, however, I find your use of the phrase both offensive and ignorant. :-(

Wow, well then, I guess you've won the thread. Congratulations!

Still a shame the way Bush has mucked things up though.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

GAVIDA

Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:45 AM

There once was a time here in Germany when the so called "Gleichschaltung der Presse" (politically enforced conformity of the press) happened.

I think it was somewhen around October 4th 1933 when all newspaper where "gleichgeschaltet".

Keep flying,
Gavida

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