TV channels to rubbish Kerry as ' Traitor ' on eve of US election
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UPDATED: Saturday, October 16, 2004 12:41
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Originally posted by Geezer:
So I'm sure that all of you folks who were planning on protesting and boycotting Sinclair stations for their inappropriate politicking will do the same to On Demand and Mr. Moore. Right? Right? Hello? Anybody there?
It's called freedom of speech & the press, guys. If you don't wanna watch, change the channel.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
The big difference between the two scenarios is per-per-view versus broadcast television. Sinclair stations are broadcast. People who watch those stations do so for free. People who watch a pay-per-view special actually pay money for the content. There are limitations put on content for broadcast stations that are not in place for pay-per-view, or cable, stations.
So it's really a case of comparing apples and oranges.
There are three kinds of people: fighters, lovers, and screamers.
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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
The big difference between the two scenarios is per-per-view versus broadcast television. Sinclair stations are broadcast. People who watch those stations do so for free. People who watch a pay-per-view special actually pay money for the content. There are limitations put on content for broadcast stations that are not in place for pay-per-view, or cable, stations.
So it's really a case of comparing apples and oranges.
As noted in the Guardian article: "Moore has publicly stated his desire to see Fahrenheit 9/11 on free television on the eve of elections, but In Demand would have to abide by certain terms to keep the peace with Columbia TriStar, which owns the video rights."
Actually, I think it's pretty clever of him; Put on a 3 hour political commercial on the eve of the election and make money at the same time. Why do I think that the making money part is more important to him?
Moore/On Demand and the Sinclair network are both presenting information designed to influence voters prior to the election. It doesn't matter how the information is distributed. If you consider Moore's film a documentary that deserves First Amendment protection, then so does Sinclair's "documentary", no matter how biased you believe it to be. The idea behind the first amendment is to protect the speech you don't like, not just the speech you do.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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But it (Moore's Movie) will only be seen by people who want to see it. In other words democrats, liberals, progressives that want more Anti-Bush programing. People casually flipping through channels looking for Smallville or whatever WB junk is on won't run across Moore's flick. Where with what Sinclare is doing and with as many stations as they own, viewers in some areas will only or mostly have the Anti-Kerry programing available.
Again, Not The Same.
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Geezer, you're avoiding the scary part -- it's being reported as NEWS - News on network television.
This isn't a fat man's independent movie you are paying for.
"News is exempt from federal equal-time rules, said Andrew Jay Schwartzman, president of the Media Access Project."
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Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Excellent!
Boo hoo hoo! Someone's criticizing Kerry and they're doing it by exercising their right to free speech something that we claim to support! How dare they!
I'll defend to the death your right to say anything that I agree with! Otherwise, meh, not so much!
John Kerry, he's our savior! He's the One! With one fell swoop of his mighty, mighty hand he'll make quadripeligic's walk.
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! How do you like getting Moored?
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But, but, but, but, but (Kerry's favorite word in the second debate, by the way) it's being reported as news and it's not news it's opinion!
Well, boo hoo hoo hoo! Welcome to how the Right sees "objective" news every day, my friends!
Witness Dan Rather. It doesn't matter that the documents were forged, only that the story was true.
Of course, I wonder if Dan would feel the same if police "forged" evidence to convict "guilty" men. I think not.
You know, Dan didn't give a rat's hairy ass about getting out of military service when ol' draft dodging Bill Clinton was running against war hero Bob Dole. No, sir! 'Cause Bill was a DEMOCRAP!
John Kerry didn't give a rat's hairy ass about military service when Clinton ran against Dole. That war (Vietnam) was something that we needed to 'get over,' until, of course, he could hypocritical try to take political advantage of it himself.
You folks are in for a huge surprise on November 3. Hee hee hee!
P.S. Sucks to get "Peroted" by Nader, don't it? I loves me the party of free speech trying to get it shut up and the party of "democracy" trying to limit candidates on the ballot. Hee hee hee!
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Want to know why your "genuine war hero," John Kerry can't seem to run away with this election?
Two words -- Bill Clinton.
See, when your party runs an actual draft dodger ("I loathe the military") against an actual war hero (Bob Dole) and does everything that it can to undercut and undermine the importance of being a war hero as a condition of electability then you've shot your future "war heroes" in the foot.
Bill Clinton defeated John Kerry's major claim to fame, kids! Chew on that one for a while.
In regards to criticisms of the Swift Boat veterans, none of whom actually served on the same boat as Kerry, I ask this --- since when did witnesses all have to be on or in the same vehicle?
Put it this way: if you're driving down the street with four of your friends and you're suddenly in a car accident (which is about as much of a "hero" as The Marrying Man will ever be), who do the cops question? Do they question only you and your friends in the car in order to determine who did what and who's at fault or do they ask other witnesses in other cars and standing nearby?
That's beside the point, however. I'll just end by reiterating:
Bill Clinton defeated John Kerry's major claim to fame, kids!
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I just cannot get over how freakin' funny some of these posts are! I laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh....
Oh, oh, oh, oh, Bush lies! He's evil, evil incarnate! What? Oh, but our guy lies for the side of good.
Oh, oh, oh, people believe him. What? Oh, but people were fooled by our liar for their own good.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, it's the end of the world! What? Well, yeah, I know I've been screaming that for like decades now, but this time...
Oh, oh, oh, oh, the sky is falling! The sky is falling!
Bwahahahahahaha! Yes, it's all over. It's amazing that you folks are still able to post on the internet, but not for long!
Just wait!
When we win in November, we're coming...
For you! Bwahahahahahaha!
Boo!
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How about this? Would you guys feel much better if the head of Sinclair broadcasting said the following:
"I did not have political relations with that party, the Republicans."
That'd help you sleep better, right?
Oh, how about this? The head of Sinclair says he ran this documentary news program to protect his wife and kids? You'd like that, huh?
All would then be forgiven, right? I mean, it's only about free speech and sure maybe he's breaking the (campaign) law (perjury) but it's only about politics (sex).
Maybe he claims that Buddhist monks gave him that documentary at a fundraiser, uh, I mean, outreach event. He never knew. Why, he's shocked at the accusation!
How about this? He says the tape just mysteriously popped up on a table in his private quarters and that he has no idea how it got there?
Oh, I know. He puts the blame on some flunky bouncer from Arkansas, says it's THAT guys fault that the tape got aired and he doesn't even know how that got hired!
Hee hee hee hee!
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Welcome to fireflyfans, stilldragons. It's always nice to have a new browncoat drop in. There's a lot more to the site than the Real World Events Discussion section (actually, this is a very small component of the overall site).
The reason why I bring this up is because this is the only section of the site where you have posted. And of your six posts, five were made to this one thread in the space of less than an hour. From reading those five posts, and the earlier one in the Kofi Annan thread, they all have a similar tenor to them.
I look forward to seeing what you have to add to this conversation, and the fireflyfan site in general. Hopefully the preceding five posts are merely outlyers.
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