In case anyone's interested, Venezuela is waging war on its students...
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UPDATED: Tuesday, December 30, 2025 16:13
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
FREM
No, as a matter of fact I don't recall you saying anything about Chavez. What was it that he did which made you post?
Siggy, sure you been payin attention ?
I been going on about what a *BAD IDEA* permanently expanding the power of his office was since like, 2007....
Case in point, 11th post down.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=28934
More recent, more cogent, 3rd and 5th posts here.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=56737
Succinct Summary, THUS.
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And this is why, good intentions be damned, Hugo was a moron for expanding the powers of his office without a sunset provision, cause no matter how decent the current resident of an office is, this is no guarantee the next one won't be an asshole, and you just made it easier to grab for even more.
As for Anonymous leaking the info, of course they did, cell structured non heirarchal, non attributed resistance based soley on the conscience of its own members is prettymuch the only venue left for it.
And hell yes we're trying to destablize anything that isn't a fascist dictatorship willing to let our Corporate Overlords loot and exploit their country for free as long as we keep em in power, well duh.
And the worst part of that is that it happens without even the knowledge or approval of either we the people or our so-called-representatives cause they fucking lie to us about it.
You wanna stop the horror, nuke Langley, Quantico and Meade.
Period.
50 Kilotons of "lesson" delivered would go a far way in making our whole world a better place by just that much, collateral damage or no.
-Frem
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Matilda ... she take my money and run Venezuela.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
MORE INFO
Leak reveals plot to destabilize Venezuelan govt.
From RT?
As someone noted, "CHRIS- Be careful on one-sided reporting."
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RT, previously known as Russia Today, is an international multilingual Russian-based television network. It is registered as an autonomous nonprofit organization[2][3] funded by the federal budget of Russia through the Federal Agency on Press and Mass Communications of the Russian Federation.[4][5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_Today
"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."
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GEEZER
Yes, BEWARE! Because IT'S RT!!! And NOBODY knows how to read media coverage without a shitscreen!!!!
Jaysus, Geezer, do you suppose you could possible get any more mindlessly reflexive???
CHRIS
Well, if you don't like RT, here is another take from zerohedge.com. Zerohedge is a website run by a bunch of Wall Streeters who contribute anonymously under the collective name of Tyler Durden, a character from Fight Club. (I didn't know that.) It's a little... well, a lot... apocalyptic. Don't get rattled by the doom and gloom; apparently they've been saying this for quite a few years now. But it IS a good source of info.
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Protests in Venezuela continue (despite President Maduro's proclamation that the nation is in "absolute calm"), with both the government and the opposition holding rallies, leaving several streets and subway stations in Caracas closed. 10 students who were arrested amid violent protests last week have been released, though 6 students remain in custody. Demonstrators do not yet have the numbers or support base to unseat President Nicolas Maduro's administration, but as Stratfor notes, these protests could mark a turning point as the economic situation deteriorates there is a chance that protests like this could begin to generate additional social momentum in rejection of the status quo.
he challenge that the student movement will face is in finding a way to include Venezuela's laboring class, which for the most part still supports the government, and relies on its redistributive policies. Their inability to rouse broad support across Venezuela's social and economic classes was in part why previous student uprisings, including significant protests in 2007, failed to generate enough momentum to trigger a significant political shift.
But the situation has changed in Venezuela, and as the economic situation deteriorates there is a chance that protests like this could begin to generate additional social momentum in rejection of the status quo. President Nicolas Maduro has been in office for less than a year, and in that time the inflation rate has surged to over 50 percent and food shortages are a daily problem. Though firmly in power, the Chavista government is still struggling to address massive social and economic challenges. Massive government spending, years of nationalization and an overreliance on imports for basic consumer goods have radically deteriorated inflation levels, and undermined industrial production.
More at...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-16/whats-going-venezuela-nutshel
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It's pretty much as I surmised. The issue in Venezuela is a currency/ inflation/ production issue: Venezuela doesn't produce enough basic necessities, and relies on its oil sales to provide money for imported goods, making it vulnerable to foreign exchange and oil price fluctuations. I know that Venezuela has devalued it currency a couple of times already, but there is a twist:
The devaluation is only for tourists and some Venezuelans living abroad, not internally. That makes sense because I caught a few fleeting references- which I cannot find now- that this involves students who think they can "do better elsewhere" (i.e outside of the country) and that the US officials were talking with students at private (not public) universities about visas. So, as usual, more to it than meets the eye.
COUPLE OF STRATEGIES FOR CREATING AN EFFECTIVE ANTI-PROPAGANDA SHITSCREEN:
There are ALWAYS two visible sides, and usually many more hidden interests. Don't stop
asking questions until you have gotten answers to the following:
1) Who is on one side, and what are they fighting for? What percent of the population do they represent?
2) Who are their governmental and/or corporate/banking supporters?
3) Who is on the other side, and what are THEY fighting for? What percent of the population do they represent?
4) Who are THEIR governmental and/or corpora
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
GEEZER
Yes, BEWARE! Because IT'S RT!!! And NOBODY knows how to read media coverage without a shitscreen!!!!
When you cite them to support your points, it seems apparent that some folks don't.
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5) What are our (USA) politician's geopolitical and corporate interests, and how are they spinning this in our media?
Interesting that to you no other government has geopolitical or corporate interests.
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Be extremely cautious when the words "freedom", "freedom fighter", and "rebel" appear in our coverage. Those words are very powerful, and they have been used too many times to whip up support/ cover a multitude of sins. I can't emphasize this enough. I have never... and I mean NEVER.... as in, I literally can't think of a single intervention that we supported that was for "freedom"... seen those words mean what they're supposed to mean. Maybe in WW2, but that war is long gone.
Not Castro? Not Che? Not all the DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED Socialists that started as freedom fighters and ended as "President for Life"?
"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."
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There's no doubt that the US has meddled extensively, and for a very long time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Venezuela
Here's an interesting interview with an "economic hitman." http://www.democracynow.org/2004/11/9/confessions_of_an_economic_hit_m
an
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I'm not buying gas at CITGO anymore.
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Originally posted by whozit:
I'm not buying gas at CITGO anymore.
You mean you have been buying from Citgo - EVER ?
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Originally posted by whozit:
I'm not buying gas at CITGO anymore.
You mean you have been buying from Citgo - EVER ?
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
It's been awhile, I go to the Lukoil by my house or Sunoco near my work.
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Quote:Anti-imperialist stooge.
Originally posted by whozit:
I'm not buying gas at CITGO anymore.
Hey Moe!
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