In case anyone's interested, Venezuela is waging war on its students...
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 30, 2025 16:13
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Quote:Well, it's not exactly 'demonstrations' any more, it's pretty violent. It seems fairly simple- President Nicolás Maduro is at best incompetent and at worst a serious scumbag. You don't show up on the street unarmed facing dudes in riot gear to protest an unfair beer tax. Another thing, STUDENTS. Young people usually know the score, and have less to lose for standing up for what's right. Remember who resisted the Vietnam War?
Originally posted by 1kiki:
I'd have to look into it more, but the two reports I saw reported thousands, not millions. They also reported an equal number of counter-demonstrators. So it's possible it's about a specific thing affecting a specific group. But as I said, I'd have to look unto it more.
I suppose it could be a gigantic cover for the US toppling yet another government to 'protect its interests' so I'll have to allow for that possibility...
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"You don't show up on the street unarmed facing dudes in riot gear to protest an unfair beer tax."
Well, taking Libya as an example, a lot of people put their lives at risk, and died, to get political rule, not for freedom or b/c there was unfairness. The students may have broadly applicable issues. Or maybe not. I'd have to look into it.
I find it peculiar that you would post an objection to someone saying they want more information.
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Sucks that when I hear "Maduro ", I think of a style of cigar (dark) . Now I have this jack wagon sullying that image in the media. I'm bummed.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Quote:Sorry if my wording left you with that impression, not my intention there. More information is a must for proper understanding of this or any situation. I was surfing the net myself for more points of view on this...
Originally posted by 1kiki:
I find it peculiar that you would post an objection to someone saying they want more information.
IMO the first youtube video I posted is either for real by talented amateurs, or bullshit by extreme professionals. As of now I won't pretend to know which.
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Oh, hey THANKS! for your reply, Chris,IsAll. I was fearing we had stumbled into a pointless disagreement. Honestly, I have a lot to do. If you find anything pertinent, would you be so kind as to post it here? I'd much appreciate it.
Merci beacoup ahead of time. I hope to see you on the other side of my busy-ness.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Well, it's not exactly 'demonstrations' any more, it's pretty violent. It seems fairly simple- President Nicolás Maduro is at best incompetent and at worst a serious scumbag. You don't show up on the street unarmed facing dudes in riot gear to protest an unfair beer tax. Another thing, STUDENTS. Young people usually know the score, and have less to lose for standing up for what's right. Remember who resisted the Vietnam War?
I suppose it could be a gigantic cover for the US toppling yet another government to 'protect its interests' so I'll have to allow for that possibility...
Yeah well, saw this comin - one MIGHT remember way back when I pointed out Hugo was an idiot for expanding the power of his office in such a fashion...
Reason being that no matter how decent you are, how noble your goals, some day yer gonna cap it, and the next sumbitch might NOT be so noble, and there goes all yer progress, right down the fucking tubes.
Of course, I am unsympathetic to our own so called conservative whiners for similar reasons, cause were it not for Shrubs attempt to force a unitary executive and thus enabling it, Obama couldn't have pulled even half the shit that pisses them off so - and while they'd never in a million years admit it, the fact that them gullible fuckwits greased the rails for it just has to gall them a bit, sure.
All power comes with limits though, primary among them the patience of the people who gave it to you in the first place, cause folks give power to you cause they think you'll advance their cause (which is why I consider the conservatards to be sociopathic monsters) and if you don't, well they tend to get a little upset about that, stop listening to you, stop takin your orders, and in extremis one can retain that power by fear and violence, but only for so long cause if ENOUGH people want your head, they'll have it.
Some folk should remember that.
-Frem
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CHRIS - The students in Venezuela are usually wealthy. They're protesting because of a beer tax??? Sounds pretty trivial to me! Surely there is much more to the story!
Like KIKI, I need to look this up. But yanno, where's the outrage over the protesters in Greece and Spain being tear-gassed?
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Quote:LOL, no. I was just sayin' that it couldn't be something as trivial as THAT.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
CHRIS - The students in Venezuela are usually wealthy. They're protesting because of a beer tax???
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Quote:As it seems we are seeing right now...
Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
Yeah well, saw this comin - one MIGHT remember way back when I pointed out Hugo was an idiot for expanding the power of his office in such a fashion...
Reason being that no matter how decent you are, how noble your goals, some day yer gonna cap it, and the next sumbitch might NOT be so noble, and there goes all yer progress, right down the fucking tubes.
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Abuse of power ? Like using the IRS to target citizens simply because of their political affiliation ?
Huh.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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