What Will It Take for Us to Get Back to Being a Decent Society?
POSTED BY: Niki2
UPDATED: Saturday, April 25, 2026 00:05
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Being a "regulator" means
It means you regulate.
An economic regulator means that you manage some aspect of the economy and keep it from going out of some predetermined control state.
They were corporations, but they were CREATED by congress to do this.
And they weren't the only regulators that existed, because there were in fact both civil and criminal charges filed against the worst offenders in the crisis.
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BYTE, your exact statement was
Quote:Being a regulatory agency means that you have the authority to enforce regulations on others. It doesn't mean that you "regulate" something through another mechanism like market forces.
They were created as regulatory agencies.
If you disagree, let's agree to disagree.
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Being a regulatory agency means that you have the authority to enforce regulations on others. It doesn't mean that you "regulate" something through another mechanism like market forces.
In this case the end result either way is kind of the same, and I would call both options a type of regulation. Non-conforming loans that ended up being fraudulent could be prosecuted, and they also regulated the market in the way I described.
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If you disagree, let's agree to disagree.
But, okay. It sounds like I was using broader definitions than you were, which also led to the misunderstanding.
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I guess we were using different definitions then. Always a problem!
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Back to the OP.
Quote:Still hoping for some kind of response from you NIKI. WHAT IF "getting back to a decent society" involves breaking some legs... or some necks? How do you resolve this conundrum?
NIKI, we have to get beyond the plaintive Why can't we all just get along? approach. The reason why society is as fucked up as it is, is because the wealthy and powerful have made it that way for their benefit. And as KIKI has pointed out, wealth begets assholeness... which begets wealth... which begets... And even the wealthy who are honest enough to recognize that they're parasites on society don't stop. Like Soros, they say- Hey, I just play by the rules, I didn't make them
"Asking" the rich and powerful to be nice is like expecting a lion to stop eating zebras. It's pointless. There are only two ways to make this a decent society: either get rid of the rich and powerful (a guillotine would be a nice touch), or build an alternate society and refuse to let the rich and powerful in. In order to build an alternate society, you need an alternate medium of exchange, because money and the current financial system pretty much has us all by the short-hairs. Yanno what I mean?
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ALSO RAPPY
Quote:You have the chance to explain what YOU think is a "decent society". The floor is yours! But yanno, if you refuse this opportunity to discuss your viewpoint, you will be cementing your reputation as a lightweight coward. So, grab the bull! Carpe diem!
Well, since you suggested that we should be like the old west (as you saw it), where people lived and died by their own efforts and luck... not much money, no insured banks, little law, no roads. and no industry ... I thought you were making a broad-brush "get rid of government" proposal. If not, in what areas do you think a government SHOULD interfere? And why?
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Interesting.
NIKI is a Buddhist; quite evidently she believes in being nice and would like other people to be nice as well. So I asked NIKI five times (or so) what she would do if getting "back to being a decent society" mean breaking some necks. It's a question she studiously avoided.
Similarly, I've asked RAPPY five (or so) times in what areas he thinks government should take an active role, and in what areas government shouldn't take an active role. Like NIKI, he's rather studiously avoided answering the question because his mantra is that government should have no role at all.
I think what this means is liberal or right wing, generous or greedy, ALL of us have assumptions that we refuse to question. If you poke your finger in deep enough, you'll find some authoritarianism in all of us. (It's just that some of us have more than others.)
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
RAPPY- is ... what we would think of as phenomenally well-off: HIS taxes went up when the Bush tax cuts expired because he's raking in $400,000+ per year. No wonder he feels so entitled!
So little rappy has never had to work - or face poverty, maybe even hunger and homelessness. And given his concretized perspective, he has about as much chance of understanding us normal people as an ant does of understanding Einstein. That makes sense.
Graduate from HS, stay out of jail , and don't have any kids you can't afford. Wow. Takes a freakin' genius to do all that, huh?
If more folks did those things, we'd have a hell of a lot less poverty.
" never had to work " ? Too gorram funny. Wrong as you've ever been
Also, per the myth that the public sector needs to pay more so it can "compete" with the private sector , hogwash.
It already pays far too much as it is.
Those figures should be flipped, or at least more in unison with each other.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Hmmm... and yet, you're still evading my question. I'll make deal with you: If you engage in honest and on-point discussion of my question, I'll engage in honest and on-point discussion about your chart. Of course, I get to decide whether you're being honest and on-point enough.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Graduate from HS, stay out of jail , and don't have any kids you can't afford. Wow. Takes a freakin' genius to do all that, huh?
If more folks did those things, we'd have a hell of a lot less poverty.
Worked for me so far, more or less. I ended up with a $90 debt on the ledger this year on a Gross salary of $11.3k.
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