What Will It Take for Us to Get Back to Being a Decent Society?

POSTED BY: Niki2
UPDATED: Saturday, April 25, 2026 00:05
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Swing, miss. And quite frankly, if you can't get THAT right, then why should I even bother ? ... Well, you started with a * false premise, as to what I meant and what I said. ...I feel no need to " play along ".... Feel free to admend [sic] your question, or not.

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Because I already amended my question. I asked you to correct and expand on that point. Since you say that I don't understand you, I'm waiting for you to tell me where and how I'm wrong. The floor is, literally, yours. My ears are open. All I want to do is question you specifically on certain points you might bring up, to make sure that I DO understand what you're saying... and possibly grasp your essential assumptions.

You're not "refusing to play along", you're simply refusing to explain your views. Yanno, bailing from a discussion. Maybe because you know you WILL be understood. What else am I to think?

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So, you're politely asking for the world according to ... moi ?


You can't open the book of my life and jump in the middle.






Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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If I reinterpret this whole argument as being about the benefits of men wearing dresses, it suddenly makes more sense. As well as being distilled and concentrated comedic genius.

My keen insight tells me that this, or a variation of such, re: the non-necessity of pants, may possibly work for any argument.

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You can't open the book of my life and jump in the middle.

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Nope, I can't. Nobody can. But YOU can provide an intro and an explanation. In fact, the ONLY person who can do that is you. And unless you do, everyone else will misunderstand you. I can't promise that people will like you or agree with you more, but yanno what? Most people here already despise the "you" that they've seen so far. How can it possibly get worse?

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Thanks for your reply. It was informative.

I do sometimes wonder, what will it take for people to say 'enough!' Or will we be like the Easter Islanders - clinging to our ways even as we fall off the edge of survival.

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Oh I think we're prettymuch fucked, if for not other reason than that we are too NICE, too forgiving, which is what enables these scum in the first goddamn place.
Imagine if the big banksters which screwed our economy, and the politicians which enabled and protected em, started winding up in back alleys with their throats slit - now THAT would be a game changer, wouldn't it now ?
REAL consequences, ones they couldn't just buy their way out of, would be miles beyond the petty wrist slap bullshit so far, especially when the fines and penalties are so much of a pittance of the profit they made that the only message recieved is that crime really does pay if you scale it large enough...
But a few skinned, mutilated, obviously-tortured banksters showing up in a storm drain, well, then there'd be some kind of incentive to maybe *NOT* fuck the world into financial implosion for their own benefit, yes ?


Oh, and Siggy, the *reason* no one else has offered you an answer, is that none of em HAVE an answer, beyond knuckling under, bending over and handing back the vaseline again...
And none of em LIKE my answer, cause it's too awful for their tender sensibilities, which mean NOTHING to me when I am point blank WATCHING people starve, freeze and die, right here, right now.

Case in point, some hoity-toity management company bought out the three nearest apartment complexes and then pitched out all the section eight residents just as their unemployment and SNAP benefits got cut to free up more corporate fuckin welfare, and those hungry, angry, desperate people right across the street from the complex *I* am charged with protecting are the poor bastards I am playing goalie against, knowing that I am more or less murdering them in the process...

So how much sympathy do you think I *have* right now for the Randroid scum who've brought it to this pass while they live high on the hog and laugh at the slaughter ?
Yeah, well, keep on laughin, cause we got news for you, fuckers, and it's only a matter of time.

FYI, my personal philosophical and religious beliefs hold no prohibition against cannibalism, and I would oh so totally eat you and wash you down with cheap rum, grinning all the while.

-Frem

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Most people here already despise the "you" that they've seen so far. How can it possibly get worse?

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Then that's a THEM problem, and does not concern me.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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RAPPY, the entire conversation edited for brevity:

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You didn't build that! - Implies that all the effort you put forth wasn't of YOUR doing, but in reality, was a product of " The Collective ". With that sort of outlook on life, the West would have never been explored or tamed. The frontier may have never exceeded past the Mississippi valley. America would not be America were it not for far sighted, free thinking INDIVIDUALS. -rappy


[So] As far as YOU'RE concerned, the government should get out of money-printing business. Get out of the business of protecting copyrights and patents. Stop negotiating international trade deals. Stop insuring banks or maintaining roads or educating the workers of tomorrow or investing in blue-sky research. Should have never "subdued" the Natives, or toppled reformist governments elsewhere. In other words, allow EVERYONE the ability of make it on their own, without government interference. Correct?-signy



Waiting for an answer from rappy, proposer of "individual hard work" and government non-interference. -signy


As far as YOU'RE concerned, the government should get out of money-printing business. Get out of the business of protecting copyrights and patents. Stop negotiating international trade deals. Stop insuring banks or maintaining roads or educating the workers of tomorrow or investing in blue-sky research. Should have never "subdued" the Natives, or toppled reformist governments elsewhere. In other words, allow EVERYONE the ability of make it on their own, without government interference. Correct?- signy

Nope. But keep telling other people what THEY believe, because that's all you frelling want to hear anyways.-rappy

Well, since you suggested that we should be like the old west (as you saw it), where people lived and died by their own efforts and luck... not much money, no insured banks, little law, no roads. and no industry ... I thought you were making a broad-brush "get rid of government" proposal. If not, in what areas do you think a government SHOULD interfere? And why? (Gets in car to run errands and some popcorn, will be back later.) -signy

Nope. I never said nor implied any such thing. Swing, miss. And quite frankly, if you can't get THAT right, then why should I even bother ?- rappy


You have the chance to explain what YOU think is a "decent society". The floor is yours! But yanno, if you refuse this opportunity to discuss your viewpoint, you will be cementing your reputation as a lightweight coward. So, grab the bull! Carpe diem! -signy


Hmmm... and yet, you're still evading my question. I'll make deal with you: If you engage in honest and on-point discussion of my question, I'll engage in honest and on-point discussion about your chart. Of course, I get to decide whether you're being honest and on-point enough. -signy


seems a bit vague. Tidy it up a bit, please ? -rappy

Here, I'll quote myself, quoting myself.

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Well, since you suggested that we should be like the old west (as you saw it), where people lived and died by their own efforts and luck... not much money, no insured banks, little law, no roads. and no industry ... I thought you were making a broad-brush "get rid of government" proposal. If not, in what areas do you think a government SHOULD interfere? And why?


You have the chance to explain what YOU think is a "decent society". The floor is yours! But yanno, if you refuse this opportunity to discuss your viewpoint, you will be cementing your reputation as a lightweight coward. So, grab the bull! Carpe diem!

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I have actually copy-pasted this question three (or more) times by now, and asked the same question with alternate wording a few more times. signy

Well, you started with a false premise, as to what I meant and what I said. I replied, stating clearly that i had said no such thing as you claim I had, and just left it at that. As

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