Are You in the New American Center?
POSTED BY: Geezer
UPDATED: Saturday, April 5, 2025 19:24
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Quote:Yep. OTOH, I wear the term "bleeding heart liberal" with pride, altho I don't consider myself one. (There are groups further to the left of "bleeding heart liberal".) I think Geezer is hoping to redefine his brand of "propertarian libertarianism" away from the corporate-created cover that it is, and find that there are people on this board (or in the greater American population) who potentially agree with him.
All the categories that I've heard beside 'centrist' are insulting
Because, yeah, we're all equal in that we all get to own property, it's just that some of us are more equal than others. Right, Geezer?
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Originally posted by Geezer:
Take the NBC News/Esquire magazine survey and find out.
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/center-interactive-quiz
You might also look at the national results...
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/new-american-center-1113
And their breakdown of the new ideological spectrum.
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/ideological-spectrum-1113#slide-
1
Even if you don't agree, it's interesting stuff.
I'm an "MBA Middle", btw.
"IT'S OFFICIAL. YOU'RE ONE OF THE TALK RADIO HEADS.
You're part of the 14% of the electorate that resents government intrusion into the private sector and private lives. You are not part of the New American Center."
I do find this quite shocking, and I actually resent being shown that I'm pretty much as far to the right on the scale that you can be. Notable reasons for this are because:
1. I stated I was pro-choice on one of the only A-or-B questions.
2. I stated I abortions should be legal during the first trimester.
3. I stated that civil-unions should be legal and they should get the same tax breaks/benefits. (Furthermore, I don't have a problem with a church recognizing gay marriage. I don't believe Government should be able to force a church to recognize it. This was not a choice).
4. I stated strong support that if somebody is disabled they should be able to live at an acceptable standard of life.
5. I stated that I made less than 20k a year (less than 12k wasn't an option).
6. I stated i was on food stamps.
Most of my other answers were either just right or left of center or hitting the bullseye.
The only notable exceptions would be my conservative stances on firearm ownership and that the government should not be allowed to tap our phone lines and internet activity. I'm assuming the fact that I voted for Romney in 2012 plays a factor as well.
Oh well... I've already thought about this WAY too long and I have better things to do. After taking the quiz, Esquire was nice enough to give a list of "What to read next" with Scarlett Johannson being the sexiest woman alive in 2013. Exit, stage right....
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm assuming the fact that I voted for Romney in 2012 plays a factor as well.
And juuust when I thought I couldn't possibly lose any more respect for you as a human being, this - at best you could have simply picked none of the above, but you went and voted FOR one of the primary sumbitches *responsible* for the fucking horrors I've fought all my life ?
What the fuck is WRONG with you ?
What's next, running fundraisers for Prosecutor McDade ?
*hissss*
-F
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I'm assuming the fact that I voted for Romney in 2012 plays a factor as well.
Jesus christ WHY
Meet Obama version 2.0, only with more juvenile hellcamps! Yayyyyy
I mean considering Romney is against most of the things that you consider distinguish yourself as an independent, and you VOTED for one of those fuckwits?!
Holy damn! Vote for neither because the system is gonna burn anyway! What on EARTH compelled you to VOTE for one of them?
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Quote:Thanks. I consider myself solidly in the centre.
Originally posted by kpo:
Like Chrisisall's 'Pickup Populist' (which I don't think describes him well at all).
I consider most people HERE in the centre (or thereabouts).
RAPtoid is a rightwingnut, obviously, and Geeze is strange amalgam of Socialist/Capitalist confusion.
But, centre is the NEW extreme Left, clearly, and Fascist Right is attempting to fill that fictitious void.
What crap.
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Okay Frem (and Byte)... do that then.....
Bastardize my admittal to voting for the lesser of two evils as a means to disregard everything else I said.
I'm glad you voted for Ron Paul and Daffy Duck, and I wish I had since my vote meant nothing, but Obama is just that bad and I voted the other way.
My bad...
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THERE IS NO LESSER EVIL! THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME BRAND OF SAME EVIL!
What the hell does it take to get you to realize that both parties are complicit in all the bullshit that makes our lives miserable?! They pad, cooperate, negotiate, and compromise to that end! To take from us, and give to their elitist friends!
Jack, you say that you're an independent, that you've been burned so many times, but you fall back into the same patterns and psychological investments and voting preferences you always have.
You actually think one side is more evil than the other, and that you have to vote for the "lesser" of two evils. You buy the spin and fear dished up by one side hook line and sinker, just as the people on the other side eat up their own spin. It is the motivating force, the fear of the "greater evil" that keeps the country divided on meaningless wedge issues, so easily manipulated while the fat cats laugh all the way to their banking buddies.
And THAT is why the results here of an admittedly biased poll were so shocking to you, and yet not at all to ANY of the rest of us.
The people who made this poll do not care what you think you are. They only care that you continue to believe them and act the way they want you to. Whether they see you as a Talk Radio Head, a Bleeding Heart, or a Pickup Populist, be assured they have plans for how they will use you to further their own ends.
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Took em longer, but Alternet also called bullshit on this one.
Beware: Huge Media Companies Are Selling Corporate Ideology as the 'New American Center'
http://www.alternet.org/media/beware-corporate-ideology-being-sold-hug
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The false ideology of Beltway-insiderism can also be found in this Esquire paragraph:
“To be sure that its findings were as far removed from the prevailing political interests as possible, the poll was designed and conducted in ecumenical fashion, by both the Benenson Strategy Group, President Obama's pollster, and Neil Newhouse of Public Opinion Strategies, who conducted the polls for Governor Romney.”
The impartial observer might be more likely to conclude that hiring not one, but two pollsters for mainstream political candidates might be a way to ensure that its findings reflected “the prevailing political interests.”
But that’s corporate-centrist ideology in a nutshell: One politician is a partisan. Two politicians are the American people incarnate.
Neil Newhouse, the Romney pollster who seems to have been something of a silent partner in this enterprise, became known for two things during the 2012 election. He insisted that the Romney campaign “would not be dictated by fact-checkers” after it was criticized for deceptive advertising. He also insisted that Romney would win.
*slow golf clap*
Called that one.
-Frem
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I'm a Yankee fan, does that count?
SGGsmiling
Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Take the NBC News/Esquire magazine survey and find out.
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/center-interactive-quiz
You might also look at the national results...
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/new-american-center-1113
And their breakdown of the new ideological spectrum.
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/ideological-spectrum-1113#slide-
1
Even if you don't agree, it's interesting stuff.
I'm an "MBA Middle", btw.
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Truth be told, I'm probably a bleeding heart...............unable to get the link to work.
SGG
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