WELCOME TO THE BEGINNING OF "EARTH THAT WAS"
POSTED BY: Wishimay
UPDATED: Friday, October 18, 2013 09:07
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Originally posted by Wishimay:
The problem is there hasn't been ANY resolution and there WON'T BE...
It's damn near impossible for Ma and Pa shops to earn ANYTHING. Every time someone does find a way to make money they legislate the crap out if it, or government will "inadvertently" screw them out of it because the government is in the pocket of these corporations who will never allow competition, which in turn pay third world wages and make increasingly third world products.
The sad part is, 3/4ths of this country are physically not intelligent enough to survive without them. My kid's principal feeds his kids at McDonalds EVERY NIGHT because they don't know how to cook! And he acts PROUD of it! And we keep reinforcing it by NOT teaching children basics. We teach them to be reliant on corporations for everything and the cycle of shit continues...
Yanno, I'm not sure anything could ever be changed, because the American people just don't want to disturb their illusion of fairytale evenings by having to think or act at all... It doesn't actually matter who is in charge here, it's always going to be the corporations...
So you want to be reliant on Government, you want to be on section 8 housing, to be on welfare, to be on food stamps, to be on medicare, would ya like an Obamaphone? Would you like the Government to take care of all you needs? FYI Wishy, all this bitching and complainig you're doing is being done on a P.C. made by an evil corporation.
I make $18.50 and hour, they cut back my hours, I haven't had a raise in 3 years, they laid off 20 people where I work. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SAY TO MAKE "YOU" FEEL BETTER!! Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go to Micky D's and order an evil Big Mac.
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Once again, missin da point Whoz...
I've never been reliant on anything but myself and hubby (even though I do technically qualify for disability I've never even given a moments thought about actually DOING it.)
I'm saying we should ALL try to be reliant on ourselves and stay away from the monopolizing corporations AND government. Unfortunately, we also CAN'T as an intelligent society allow those who are truly less fortunate with no resources to suffer. Well, I can't. Some people don't seem to mind suffering...
Case in point- a fair lot of little people require multiple surgeries to get along and it has always been a pre-existing condition, forcing them or their families to pay doubly through pain and monetarily in time in healthcare where ONE can bankrupt you. I myself should have been diagnosed with R.A. ten years ago, but my doctor didn't write it up because he knew my husband was not in a good job and I would not be covered as it would be pre-existing. They COULD HAVE FIXED ME TEN YEARS AGO!!!! I've lived in hell for ten years I didn't have to because I wasn't RICH. And you're OK with that???
For what it's worth, I DO avoid corporations as much as possible. This computer I'm on is secondhand, as are most of our clothes, and I buy generic, produce local, and our ground beef comes from an actual local farmer. I'd love to even have our own chickens, but hubbys not for that...
And if'll make YOU feel better, since hubs works in coal he may not have a job in five years. Why don't YOU get a different job if you aren't happy?
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Originally posted by SC_FF_FAN:
I'm starting to sway towards the idea each candidate gets a fixed amount from the Govt (cannot use any other funds), a website, a couple debate spots on TV, and then we have a vote.
I always thought limiting campaign funds is a good idea. Our country should not be run by the guy who buys the most public attention time. We have internets now, we can easily find out anything and everything about any candidate we want to know anyways...
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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Once again, missin da point Whoz...
I've never been reliant on anything but myself and hubby (even though I do technically qualify for disability I've never even given a moments thought about actually DOING it.)
I'm saying we should ALL try to be reliant on ourselves and stay away from the monopolizing corporations AND government. Unfortunately, we also CAN'T as an intelligent society allow those who are truly less fortunate with no resources to suffer. Well, I can't. Some people don't seem to mind suffering...
Case in point- a fair lot of little people require multiple surgeries to get along and it has always been a pre-existing condition, forcing them or their families to pay doubly through pain and monetarily in time in healthcare where ONE can bankrupt you. I myself should have been diagnosed with R.A. ten years ago, but my doctor didn't write it up because he knew my husband was not in a good job and I would not be covered as it would be pre-existing. They COULD HAVE FIXED ME TEN YEARS AGO!!!! I've lived in hell for ten years I didn't have to because I wasn't RICH. And you're OK with that???
For what it's worth, I DO avoid corporations as much as possible. This computer I'm on is secondhand, as are most of our clothes, and I buy generic, produce local, and our ground beef comes from an actual local farmer. I'd love to even have our own chickens, but hubbys not for that...
And if'll make YOU feel better, since hubs works in coal he may not have a job in five years. Why don't YOU get a different job if you aren't happy?
I'm happy where I'm at, I'm afraid I may lose my job. Every month I get bad news, lay offs, cut backs, etc. They replaced the paper towels in the restrooms with electric hand dryers to save money. I'm not going to feel guilty for NOT being broke, I bust my ass every day, and in return the evil corp I work for pays me $ and gives me health care bennys. I'm sorry things are hard for you, but this weekend I'm going to go out for lunch and a few beers and thank God I wasn't let go this year.
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Originally posted by SC_FF_FAN:
I've always wondered why staunch Republicans love Reagan's trickle down effect analogy, because it supports a big disparity between the rich and poor. Many Americans work hard, but seem to be losing ground so the frog in the boiling water analogy starts to kick in along with the trickle economics strategy. We need a balance between business owners and the employees, but it seems like those who have money get the laws in their favor. One of my pet peeves is a business that outsources jobs overseas gets US Govt protection and a tax break for the expenses of moving over there plus not pay taxes for sales overseas.
I guess in the US, we go by the golden rule; he who has the gold, rules.
And things are niffty under Obama? How come he gets a pass? Reagan left office 25 years ago, but you lib act like he left office last week. Also did you know your left-wing friends in Hollywood get all kinds of tax breaks in L.A. and other citys, but they call them "tax incentives". NBC/U, Disney, Dreamworks, Paramount, CNN and HBO has laid off 100's since Barry became Prez...but they still love him.
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See, the whole point was how two party system- NOT WORKING!
Thank you for making mah point... 
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The two-party system works as intended: it is SUPPOSED TO BE divisive and put the breaks on any sort of change.
Not that I think it works well. Increasingly, the problem is extremism and ignorance.
Having said that, I must say, with all due respect, it's hard to take any sort of political opinion seriously from someone who refuses to vote. Even if its the lesser of two evils, refusing to chose sends the message that you don't care if the GREATER evil wins.
People who refuse to influence the system, even minutely, don't have the right to criticism the system in my opinion.
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Originally posted by GWEK:
Not that I think it works well. Increasingly, the problem is extremism and ignorance.
'Zactly. And you think ME voting is gonna fix that? Honestly?
You think encouraging ANY group of people to vote is gonna fix ANYTHING?
Don't take it personal, I also believe this planet is doomed, and soon. The only way to save it is if about 7.5 billion people die off now... and then promptly return to tribal ways. I'd just really like food to be affordable while I'm here....That's really the best I hope for.
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