WELCOME TO THE BEGINNING OF "EARTH THAT WAS"

POSTED BY: Wishimay
UPDATED: Friday, October 18, 2013 09:07
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WISHIMAY

Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:43 AM

This is just ridiculous. I have just come from the local grocery store and GROCERY PRICES HAVE GONE UP AGAIN!!!

My husband has a decent job, and it is getting hard for US to buy what we need, I can't imagine the people that have to live on the kind of salary we used to.

I was reading an article today about how many people have been screwed out of their life savings by the shutdown. WE are becoming just like Russia in the 80's. Soon we will be bringing barrelsful of de-valued money to buy a loaf of bread!

THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO WAKE UP!! I am the last person to be alarmist BUT WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION!!!

NO MORE SHUTDOWNS, WE NEED TO MAKE THEM ILLEGAL!!
When having a two party system hurts your country DO AWAY WITH THE TWO PARTY SYSTEM! Forget democrat and republican: think US and THEM!!!

OUR GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO BE PUT ON TRIAL, THEY NEED TO BE SUED FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE!

WISHIMAY

Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:47 AM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2463136/US-debt-limit-default-
mocked-China.html

CHINA is making fun of us!

This is BAD, PEOPLE!!!!!

WHOZIT

Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:50 AM

Wait until Obamacare REALLY kicks in, your getting what you voted for, live with it.

WISHIMAY

Thursday, October 17, 2013 6:00 AM

Actually, I didn't vote. I don't believe in the two party system and until we pull our heads out our asses and see that it doesn't work, I WON'T. It's an outdated and divisive notion.

Neither choice was appropriate. Romney would've kept supporting a system of incorporation and enslavement of everyone NOT a millionaire. It's how we GOT HERE!
Obama is married to a monster who thinks she's right with god and somehow he got confused as to whether he was leading a country or a religion.

The lesser of two evils is STILL EVIL.
I won't debate sides.

WE CAN ALL AGREE THIS ISN'T WORKING! Stop playing the blame game....

WISHIMAY

Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:35 PM

Even the CRAZY know this is all wrong!

http://news.yahoo.com/house-employee-escorted-off-floor-after-rant-074
436271.html

WISHIMAY

Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:54 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2463148/U-S-overtakeS-Saudi-Ar
abia-worlds-biggest-oil-producer-jump-output-shale.html

This is the sad part, there is no reason to be paying $4.50 for milk or $6 for bacon. Our money is becoming worthless, yet we export BILLIONS of barrels of oil??

Hello? Is this thing ON?

SECOND

Thursday, October 17, 2013 6:49 PM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
yet we export BILLIONS of barrels of oil??

Hello? Is this thing ON?

You could look at your problem a different way (with famous name villains to specifically blame) : the economic costs of GOP attempts to rule by extortion that began years before the shutdown/debt crisis and haven’t ended with the (temporary?) resolution of that crisis.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/17/what-a-drag-2/

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First, part of the fiscal cliff deal involved letting the Obama payroll tax cut — a significant, useful form of economic stimulus — expire. (Republicans only like tax cuts that go to people with high incomes.) This led to a surprisingly large tax hike in 2013, focused on workers:

Second, GOP opposition to unemployment insurance has been the biggest factor in a very rapid decline in unemployment benefits despite continuing weak job markets:

This hurts the unemployed a lot, but it also hurts the economy, because the unemployed are already living on the edge, and surely must have been forced into spending cuts as benefits expired.

The combination of the payroll tax hike and the benefit cuts amounts to about $200 billion of fiscal contraction at an annual rate, or 1.25 percent of GDP, probably with a significant multiplier effect. Add this to the effects of sharp cuts in discretionary spending and the effects of economic uncertainty, however measured, and I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suggest that extortion tactics may have shaved as much as 4 percent off GDP and added 2 points to the unemployment rate.

In other words, we’d be looking at a vastly healthier economy if it weren’t for the GOP takeover of the House in 2010.

WISHIMAY

Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:44 PM

The problem is there hasn't been ANY resolution and there WON'T BE...
It's damn near impossible for Ma and Pa shops to earn ANYTHING. Every time someone does find a way to make money they legislate the crap out if it, or government will "inadvertently" screw them out of it because the government is in the pocket of these corporations who will never allow competition, which in turn pay third world wages and make increasingly third world products.

The sad part is, 3/4ths of this country are physically not intelligent enough to survive without them. My kid's principal feeds his kids at McDonalds EVERY NIGHT because they don't know how to cook! And he acts PROUD of it! And we keep reinforcing it by NOT teaching children basics. We teach them to be reliant on corporations for everything and the cycle of shit continues...

Yanno, I'm not sure anything could ever be changed, because the American people just don't want to disturb their illusion of fairytale evenings by having to think or act at all... It doesn't actually matter who is in charge here, it's always going to be the corporations...

SECOND

Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
. . . the American people just don't want to disturb their illusion . . .

There's extensive evidence www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_backfire_effect.php that facts not only don’t win arguments, they make people dig in even deeper: “When your deepest convictions are challenged by contradictory evidence, your beliefs get stronger.”

I think this explains a lot about what is going wrong. And the rest is explained by those specific strong beliefs that some find so very dear to their hearts. They need a healthy heart transplant. www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/gop-crack-up/ www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2013/10/14/inside-the-mind-of-the-re
publican-party/

WISHIMAY

Friday, October 18, 2013 1:27 AM

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Originally posted by second:
There's extensive evidence www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_backfire_effect.php that facts not only don’t win arguments, they make people dig in even deeper: “When your deepest convictions are challenged by contradictory evidence, your beliefs get stronger.”

And just how do you fight THAT?

The sad thing is I am married to a man who means well and tries harder than just about anyone I've ever met, but his first reaction to ANYTHING -good or bad- is fear. However, it's not his fault, he was raised in a household that holds emotional reactions sacred. "God made us feel these ways, so it MUST be right." Reason?? That's for people who think they are better than...

That first scene from Serenity may be pretty ominous "River, we're not trying to tell them what to think, we're trying to show them HOW (stab)"
but thing is, we DO need to show children how to think logically and rationally because a LOT of them aren't getting that at home. A cursory class in law would also be a great deterrent. They need to know that even if their parents don't punish them, the law will.

I remember our first conversation about gay marriage
"Honey, what does it matter to you? You aren't gay..."
"Yes, but if we allow them to marry then what's next?? Goats?"
"Do YOU know any goats that can give legal consent?? Because I think half of Alabama would be up for that..."

And yeah, I make my kid watch Judge Millian all the time. Love her. Waaay better than Judge Witchy, without all the teen bigotry and screeching...

Ok That was waay off subject... I guess basically what you are saying is I should just go back to avoiding humanity like I usually do?

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