So what's shut down for you?
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Originally posted by Geezer:
Don't think that the Republicans are the only ones playing politics here.
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Good one, gramps!
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:
None of which has nothing to do with the issue at hand, which is passing the budget, which is what caused anything to be shut down. That's been engineered for months by the Republicans, despite Rap's complete unwillingness to read.
God dammit Niki, it has EVERY thing to do w/ the issue at hand. You're ignoring my post, what i said, and the FACT that Obama himself is doing all this, just to make the shut down as painful as possible.
HE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE VETERANS ! It was Michelle and others who are keeping the WW2 Memorial OPEN for the Vets, and trying to remove the barricades OBAMA HIS OWN DAMN SELF PUT THERE!
WAKE THE FUCK UP!
And its Obama who is doing this. Entirely. The GOP has passed a budget. That's what Congress does. Obama refuses to even meet with them to discuss the issue. He's a thug and a punk and a rank amateur.Quote:
WHAT is shut down isn't the issue; that anything HAD to be shut down is. And it was Rap would was adamant just a little while ago that the Republicans WOULD NOT shut it down. Wanna get back to that one?
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Learn to read, Niki.
Thread title : " So what's shut down for you ? "
The GOP has NOT shut down anything. Nothing to get back to. But thanks for playing.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
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The poster child for the American Taliban, ladies and gents!
Give him a round of applauds! It takes talent to be that utterly fucking stupid!
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
And its Obama who is doing this. Entirely. The GOP has passed a budget. That's what Congress does. Obama refuses to even meet with them to discuss the issue. He's a thug and a punk and a rank amateur.
The GOP has NOT shut down anything.
Emperor Ba'raq Hussein Obama, Dark Lord of the Sith, Master of the Sullied, Mother of Dragons ...
... demands no conditions to CR bill
... demands no conditions to raising debt ceiling
... demands Republicans obey his will unconditionally
Well, FUCK HIM and the Affirmative Action Kenyan zebra he rode in on.
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Yeah, pretty much Mark. Sad, tho', 'cuz there are just enough like him in just enough gerrymandered districts to put these assholes in office and keep them there.
OF COURSE both sides are playing politics, that's what politicians are about and they're assholes. Of course Obama's shutting down stuff that's visible--of course, also, the idea that maybe shutting down tourist attractions is better than shutting down, say, the FBI, doesn't occur to our righties.
But again, that does not address the basic fact of the shutdown itself, which was caused by the Republicans REFUSING TO ADOPT THE BUDGET. Any debate here on the issue would have to encompass the chronology I laid out, with links, because that is what happened, in detail, not what parts are shut down and what aren't. The simple fact is that a MINORITY of the House of Representatives worked for months to bring this to pass, it was well known, it was covered extensively by the media, it was discussed, intelligent Republicans were quite vocal against it, and Rap kept saying 'it won't happen'. The fact that Rap and others choose to buy the spin the GOP puts on it NOW is irrelevant; the fact that Obama (or whoever makes those decisions, somehow I don't think he pulls them out of thin air) chooses to shut down some things over other things is irrelevant. We don't know what the choices were, I have no doubt politics comes into it, but it doesn't change the ISSUE itself--or, by the way, the fact that, again, Rap was ADAMANT that the Republicans weren't going to shut down the government. Still waiting for him to deal with that one, but not holding my breath.
We ran across our first effects this morning...sulkied the dogs out on a favorite trail, got back to the car and discovered a sticker on the window that we were "parked illegally" (not a citation, just a notice)...it's where we've always parked, there are no "no parking" signs, etc. Turns out half of the trail is on GGNRA--Golden Gate National Recreation Area. We get there before sunrise so didn't see a couple of little wooden barricades at the entrance that had been pushed aside by someone. No problem, we can park just outside, but it made us realize that it means ALL of Pt. Reyes, Crissy Field, Rodeo Beach, Tennessee Valley, Fort Funston and more are closed. That's going to be a real mess over the weekend.
Fucking idiots. Willing to hold the whole country hostage to throw a hissy fit--PURE POLITICS, not anything to do with the good of the country or representing the American people./
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And if ANYONE doesn't realize Gohmert and Palin and their buddies are using the Vets for political reasons...well, everyone does, it's just useful spin for the right to now scream about some veterans not being able to visit a monument. Obama hates vets, eh? Then why have Republicans voted against so many veterans' benefits bills, things which would have REAL IMPACT on veterans' lives?
"GOP Senators Block Veterans Jobs Bill", http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/09/20/gop-senators-block-veter
ans-jobs-bill.html
"GOP blocks COLA on benefits for disabled veterans and survivors", http://www.examiner.com/article/gop-blocks-cola-on-benefits-for-disabl
ed-veterans-and-survivors
"GOP Voted Against 7 Bills to Help Veterans", http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/16/1091597/-GOP-Voted-Against-7-
Bills-to-Help-Veterans
"GOP demands benefits for the military be on chopping block", http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2011/09/19/gop-demands-benefits-for-the
-military-be-on-chopping-block/
"Republican Party ignores vets’ needs":Quote:
Since I was discharged from the Army in 1968, I have yet to see the GOP helping veterans, e.g., when in power the GOP fights increases in funding for the VA hospital system. The GOP has no problem sending our young men and women to war, but once they are beyond military service the GOP no longer has any use for ‘em and would prefer the veteran died so as not be a drain on the “system”.
The GOP likes to say they support the troops and veterans but their actions speak louder than words. When it comes to the veteran, the GOP is all talk and no action, unless that action is cutting veteran’s benefits.
The only time I see an increase in veteran benefits is when the Democrats are in power, so any veteran who votes GOP is simply shooting himself in the foot. http://www.bonnercountydailybee.com/opinion/letters_to_editor/article_
9c95c34a-2584-11e2-80f1-001a4bcf887a.html]
"REPUBLICANS WANT TO PRIVATIZE VA HOSPITALS":Quote:
The Republicans unveiled their Pledge to America today but they kept secret a plan that is in the works to privatize Veteran Hospitals and make ALL veterans take out an insurance policy to go to a VA hospital. http://www.zimbio.com/US+Vets/articles/T_PAUH7Lw0O/REPUBLICANS+WANT+PR
IVATIZE+VA+HOSPITALS]
I detailed that plan to privatize the VA, with quotes from Republicans, back in 2010 at http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=45462, if anyone wants to see the details.
And on and on. Veterans are only useful to the GOP when it's time to wave the flag or utilize them for political purposes, period.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
God dammit Niki, it has EVERY thing to do w/ the issue at hand. You're ignoring my post, what i said, and the FACT that Obama himself is doing all this, just to make the shut down as painful as possible.
HE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE VETERANS ! It was Michelle and others who are keeping the WW2 Memorial OPEN for the Vets, and trying to remove the barricades OBAMA HIS OWN DAMN SELF PUT THERE!
WAKE THE FUCK UP!
Uhhh...
While I'm not sold on the Democrats saying that it's ALL the Republicans fault - it does take two to tango, after all - you don't really think Obama is flying out in Airforce One to personally put up barriers to the national parks himself, cackling all the while.
I mean there are still SOME federal employees on the payroll, so menial labour jobs can be delegated. The President - and the other democrats - are too busy playing electric-fence-pissing-match chicken with the Republicans to personally shut down ALL the parks.
And none of them care about vets, or poor people, or jobs or the economy, only political capital and psychological warfare.
I'm just... Going to attribute that outburst to feeling provoked by the proximity of registered democrats. Don't let it get to you man.
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Rep. Randy Neugebauer (R-TX), at the WWII Memorial for photo-ops, decided that he would use a National Park Ranger as a whipping post. The NPS has been allowing WWII Veterans to visit the memorial, even though it is technically closed. The Nation Park Rangers are doing this on a volunteer basis.
Neugebauer took exception to that fact, though he was directly responsible for it. He decided to vent his spleen on a female Park Service Ranger. Neugebauer said that the Park Service should “be ashamed.”
There was a crowd of people surrounding the brief exchange and most were definitely on the National Park Ranger’s side of the issue. One told Neugebauer to question the people who “aren’t passing the budget” about the closure. Then a man in a bicycle helmet addressed the Congressman:
“This woman is doing her job, just like me. I’m a 30-year federal veteran — I’m out of work.”
With no shame or irony (assuming he even knows what those are), Neugebauer tells the man that the reason he was out of work was because “Mr. Reid decided to shut down the government.” But the bicycle man wasn’t having any of that, saying that the shutdown was due to the government “not doing its job.”
It’s bad enough that the Republicans are holding us all hostage for.. well, they don’t really know why anymore. They just are. It’s bad enough that there are over 800,000 federal workers who are sitting at home and hoping the GOP will act like grown-ups. It’s bad enough that these National Park Rangers are basically volunteers right now. But for them to be blamed, by Congressmen or TV pundits, for the shitstorm the Republicans have stirred up is beyond galling.
Nah, they're not playing politics, no sirree bob! Talk about your cheap shots...she's VOLUNTEERING her time!
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The local National Parks are closed. On the way to work this morning I passed a deer sitting on the side of the road with a sign saying 'will frolic for food.' Very sad.
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Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
And its Obama who is doing this. Entirely. The GOP has passed a budget. That's what Congress does. Obama refuses to even meet with them to discuss the issue. He's a thug and a punk and a rank amateur.
The GOP has NOT shut down anything.
Emperor Ba'raq Hussein Obama, Dark Lord of the Sith, Master of the Sullied, Mother of Dragons ...
... demands no conditions to CR bill
... demands no conditions to raising debt ceiling
... demands Republicans obey his will unconditionally
Well, FUCK HIM and the Affirmative Action Kenyan zebra he rode in on.
Well, Ill give you this - if you're trying to usurp the "biggest moron" title from rappy - you're doing a damn fine job. Maybe you can be co-captains!
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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Originally posted by Storymark:
The poster child for the American Taliban, ladies and gents!
Give him a round of applauds! It takes talent to be that utterly fucking stupid!
Can't dispute anything I said, so you resort to juvenile name calling and scared mockery.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
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