So what's shut down for you?

POSTED BY: Geezer
UPDATED: Thursday, October 10, 2013 23:48
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Here in DMV (District, Maryland, Virginia) the National Monuments and Parks and Smithsonian are closed, the Panda Cam at the National Zoo is turned off(and the Zoo closed), the boathouses on the Potomac river that local high school and college rowing teams use are shut down (although they are privately owned, they are on land leased from the Park Service, and the Park Service won't grant the lesees access.) Lots of non-essential Federal employees are furloughed.

Interestingly, the D.C. City government, also Federally funded, is going full blast, since Mayor Grey declared all city employees essential. So you can still get a parking ticket in the District, and it's just as likely to be incorrect as always.

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Let's see...who was it here who was adamant that the Republicans WOULDN'T shut down the government...??

This is so disgusting, I don't know when the American people are going to have had enough of this childishness...so many innocent people affected and they don't give a flying SHIT!

And for absolutely NOTHING...Obamacare started today, just like they knew it would...but so much else DIDN'T. Totally insane.

My stepson lives out Jackson Hole way, does a lot of hiking in Yellowstone. His vacation starts today, he can't even go hiking 'cuz Yellowstone is closed. People have to reserve visits to Yosemite over a YEAR in advance, but of course Yosemite's closed. Over five THOUSAND tourists a day go out to The Rock, but Alcatraz is closed and since most people buy their tickets on line, they're not sure how to get their money back...and those are just the UNIMPORTANT, recreational aspects...

Makes me sick. They'll have to throw in the towel, even they know it, it's just a matter of how long they want to fuck us all over before they do, so they can make their "statement". Absolutely unconscionable. "Representatives" my fucking ASS!

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Geezer: So what's shut down for you?

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I choose to interpret this as what does shut down mean to me. In answer:

I think... All of us should have a barbeque.

You can put corn still in the husk on a grill. Give it five minutes, turning over occasionally, and then you have some tasty corn that has the subtle smokey flavour of the outdoors and charcoal.

All the meat eaters can just go to TOWN. Have some fun, get sauce everywhere, delicious carmelized sauce on once living protein. And then hamburger buns.

Drinkers can get the hootch up ins. Apple cider will be provided for the non-drinkers.

And then, as we eat and make merry, we can envision that we are munching on, slicing and serving up, the party system and laws we don't like.

That's what I think.

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It's the shut down no one cares about, unless your a lazy government worker or were planing on taking a dump in the park.

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I like how the crowd of WW2 Veterans said 'screw you, Obama ! ' and crossed the roped off 'closed' areas of the WW2 Memorial anyways.

You can shut down the WH, Barry, but you can't keep Americans from THEIR monuments!



Good job, Vets!!!



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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You'll have to cite where they SAID "Screw you, Obama" to be taken seriously, because I doubt that's what happened. Obama didn't shut down the government; the Republicans' refusal to pass a budget did. Nobody else is refusing to pass the budget, and the LAW required the government to shut down if they didn't pass one. Obama hasn't got a damned thing to do with it, it's Congress and the Senate, you poor addled fool.

Here, given you get your "information" from FauxNews and we know people who do are more ignorant than others, try to understand the following. The budget process is as follows:

1.The President of the United States submits a budget proposal to Congress.

2.Both houses review the proposal, and develop budget resolutions of their own.

3.The resolutions are “marked up” in the appropriations subcommittees.

4.The House and Senate vote on the final versions of their respective bills, and go to conference committee to hammer out their differences, at which point the reconciled versions go to the floor of each house for a final vote.

5.The president signs the reconciled versions, and the budget becomes law.

The first three and half steps of the process happened as they should have. The second half of step three, which is the conference committee, didn’t take place. Here is where GOP, or rather, Tea Party stubbornness, came into play. When the time came to go to conference, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) and Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA), the chairs of their respective budget committees, sat down to discuss a framework for such a conference.

Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA), speaking on behalf of Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL), objected to forming such a committee because neither of them saw a successful outcome of such a committee.

A conference committee is usually approved unanimously by the Senate, is made up of people from both houses, and is used to reconcile differences in legislation that both houses have passed. Such committees are temporary, and once reconciliation is achieved, are disbanded.

Between April 23 and July 1, Senate Democrats asked for consent to go to conference on the budget resolutions 15 times, and were shot down by Senate Republicans 15 times, for the following reasons:

-- They wanted a framework for how the conference would work.

-- They wanted a guarantee that the budget would not be used to raise the debt ceiling.

-- They wanted a guarantee of protection from tax hikes on corporations and the wealthiest Americans.

-- Some of them wanted to debate the resolution again.

-- They wanted an agreement on a 30-year budget outlook.

Notice that not one of these reasons has to do with the ACA. What’s truly odd is that Sen. Sessions and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), two of the Republicans that blocked various conference requests, asked for a conference prior to passing the resolution. They knew the process, and then backed away from it early on, and dug their heels in with subsequent requests. Other Tea Party senators, including Ted Cruz and Mike Lee (R-UT), also blocked requests.

On Sept. 29, Sen. Paul asked why they weren’t going to a conference on this on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” and the above was then explained by Sen. Durbin (D-IL). Paul is also among the senators who blocked conference requests earlier this year.

The ACA appears central to the reasons for a shutdown now, but is actually a red herring being used for the purpose of assigning blame. This whole thing started 5 months ago when the GOP began refusing to even attempt reconciliation of the budgets. To determine who is responsible for this, one needs to look at the last five months, and ignore the childish “they started it” arguments with respect to the ACA. The Tea Party wing of the GOP is, in fact, responsible for our current crisis. They are the ones who refused to negotiate.

That's it, in a nutshell, and I could offer links to each part of it, exc

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