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The Alaskan village set to disappear under water in a decade

POSTED BY: Niki2
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Thursday, August 1, 2013 11:58 AM

Where did I say it was easy to move? The decision TO move is pretty simple, if you accept the premise that imminent doom is coming ( or may come ).

And their most valuable assets ? Are themselves. Their knowledge & spirit to live & succeed.



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Thursday, August 1, 2013 12:44 PM

Still no compassion then?

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Thursday, August 1, 2013 1:00 PM

They're far down the list for compassion.

I don't even KNOW there's any need for it.

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Thursday, August 1, 2013 1:59 PM

Magons, you're trying to communicate with RAPTOR, remember? On the subject of the suffering that will ensue from GLOBAL WARMING, remember? Which he doesn't even acknowledge EXISTS--notice he's posting about "erosion in Alaska"--"erosion", which has absolutely nothing to do with anything in the story. Surely you know better than this by now, surely?

Rap is literally INCAPABLE of conceding a single point when it comes to even the remote possibility global warming might exist, so think how much further a stretch it would be for him to admit that anyone might SUFFER from it, or that he might feel compassion for such suffering.

It's Rap. It's Global Warming. Does not compute. Don't waste your time--responses are WHY he posts in these threads, to keep arguing, remember?

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Thursday, August 1, 2013 2:49 PM

LOL @ Niki

I've NEVER denied global warming . I fully recognize, more than most , the cycles of warming / cooling this planet has seen.

It's the myth that mankind is the driving force, or even contributing in any measurable way to what happens to the climst over millions of years.

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Thursday, August 1, 2013 4:57 PM

Hmm. Can volcanos change the climate, AURaptor?

If a volcano puts out a certain amount of material into the atmosphere, and that amount of material might be matched by the cumulative efforts of billions of humans, could then humans affect the climate the same way a volcano can?

Let's not even talk about CO2 yet, as I'd imagine you'd say the correlation between CO2 and temperature changes does not prove causation, which is a fair argument to take.

But let's talk about soot/dust of various chemical compositions that volcanos or humans can produce. Does this soot/dust sometimes impact the ecosystem locally? Can volcanos in greenland cause cooler temperatures across the northern hemisphere? Can humans cause acid rain, and create duststorms and deserts from poor agricultural or industrial practices? Can local effects have global ramifications, and vice versa?

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Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:07 PM

Don't even start, Byte, is my advice. Unless you like pissing into the wind.

When you recognize the following, you accept that there can never be communication:

Quote:

The next issue of Psychological Science includes a piece ( http://pss.sagepub.com/content/early/2013/03/25/0956797612457686.abstr
act
) on new research ( http://websites.psychology.uwa.edu.au/labs/cogscience/documents/Lskyet
alPsychScienceinPressClimateConspiracy.pdf) which finds how the disbelief of climate change is found among the same people who also believe other conspiracy theories. The fact that climate change is backed by thousands of peer-reviewed research papers with gigabytes upon gigabytes of data to back it up means nothing to them. They put it with conspiracies that have no credible evidence, many times with only some blogger or YouTube video proclaiming it as true.

Their adherence to laissez-faire markets is also telling. The historically proven failures of the laissez-faire system, with its regular cycle of booms and busts, are lost on these people. They believe with all of their hearts the fantasy that the invisible hand of the market will resolve all problems. This of course flies in the fact of history, which demonstrates that those with power will abuse it.

The paper reveals that people who reject climate change are doing it not out of any scientific basis, or even out of skepticism. They are rejecting it based on ideological principle only. As a result, arguing with them using only logic, or facts, will never work.



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Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:09 PM

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*BELIEVES CONSPIRACY THEORIES*

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Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:13 PM

Speaking of previous climate change, read about Lowell Glacer, and Neoglacial Lake Alsek, here. http://www.geology.gov.yk.ca/821.html

Then read about Naludi: Story of the Lowell Glacier, here.

http://www.yfnta.org/past/legend.htm




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Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:42 PM

Ooh, Alaska stuff?

I should respond with some of the stuff I was saying about Glacier Bay.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacier_Bay

This doesn't really go into the details about the Tlingit and their evacuation, but it's still interesting stuff, and lots of pictures.

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