The Alaskan village set to disappear under water in a decade
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UPDATED: Tuesday, June 20, 2023 05:38
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And you're also getting defensive for some reason
(Note: I quoted that and posted this before you revised your post)
Byte, you're missing the fact that any and all references to problems which will occur because of global warming immediately gets under Rap's skin and he's forced to diss anyone who might suffer, deny any problems that might be caused, and keep repeating that there IS no global warming caused by man. It's as big an obsession with him as "Islamist extremists", surely you've noticed that by now. Has he ever, even once, let any news about global warming pass or refrained from IMMEDIATELY posting some kind of snark...ever? Not to my knowledge. He is the only person here who is absolutely, positively guaranteed to react that way to any and every post which might even mention global warming.
So any effort to simply clarify, much less discuss, something like this goes "in one ear and out the other"--he will REACT, always negatively, no matter what you try to say or how you try to explain. Always has and always will. He cannot and will not ever express empathy or sympathy for anyone who suffers in any way from the effects of global warming; it is, I believe, actually impossible for him to do so. Hope that helps you understand.
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I like to approach AURaptor like a human being. He has expressed some sadness towards the people here, but he has also expressed that it is not his problem.
As I have not donated humanitarian aid to this village myself, I can not fault him for this.
I just like talking about Alaska. :D
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I was only trying to help you understand why he reacted the way he did. It is my belief that any expression of "sadness" was a throw-away line, nothing more; he obviously blames them for choosing to live "in the path of danger" (which is wrong in and of itself; there would be no danger if we worked to correct man-made global warming). His blithe put-downs that they can 'just move', given the realities of the situation (which he no doubt didn't read and doesn't give a shit about), show a complete lack of any kind of understanding or empathy. You're free to approach Rap as a human being, my point was that he never will approach others that way.
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In fairness, after I started discussing this with AURaptor, I realized that I myself think that people shouldn't live in either New Orleans or Las Vegas.
New Orleans for logic reasons with the sea level and water table and Las Vegas because... I don't like Vegas. And they're always trying to take our water.
But that's not very nice of me, because I'm not a very nice person. A lot of innocent people (must... not make Vegas jokes here) would have their lives ruined if anything happened to New Orleans or Vegas that would force them all to leave.
If AuRaptor has no empathy, then I'm pretty much just as guilty.
Then again, I've been saying that all along.
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You show a lot of empathy for people, Byte, even if you deny it.
Rap's kind of all over the place. It depends on the cause whether he displays any empathy. Christians suffering at the hands of Muslims anywhere bring on the crocodile tears (surely they could see the writing on the wall and move too, according to Raplogic) but not those who are set to lose their house or their lives due to climate change.
It's not so easy for communities to up and leave their homes. Hell, I shouldn't be living where I do. It's one of the worst rated bushfire risk areas in the world. And I'm still in a position to sell this place.
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What Magons said. All of it.
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
You show a lot of empathy for people, Byte, even if you deny it.
Rap's kind of all over the place. It depends on the cause whether he displays any empathy. Christians suffering at the hands of Muslims anywhere bring on the crocodile tears (surely they could see the writing on the wall and move too, according to Raplogic) but not those who are set to lose their house or their lives due to climate change.
PEOPLE are the cause of so much suffering in the world. In your example, MUSLIM people. That's hardly equivalent to the natural forces ( erosion ) occurring in Alaska.
Real logic fail on YOUR part there.
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It's not so easy for communities to up and leave their homes. Hell, I shouldn't be living where I do. It's one of the worst rated bushfire risk areas in the world. And I'm still in a position to sell this place.
If a slow burning fire was "set" to over take you home in 10 years, would you get out and sell now ? Or wait until the flames were at your front door ?
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
Resident USA Freedom Fundie
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
You show a lot of empathy for people, Byte, even if you deny it.
Rap's kind of all over the place. It depends on the cause whether he displays any empathy. Christians suffering at the hands of Muslims anywhere bring on the crocodile tears (surely they could see the writing on the wall and move too, according to Raplogic) but not those who are set to lose their house or their lives due to climate change.
PEOPLE are the cause of so much suffering in the world. In your example, MUSLIM people. That's hardly equivalent to the natural forces ( erosion ) occurring in Alaska.
Real logic fail on YOUR part there.Quote:
It's not so easy for communities to up and leave their homes. Hell, I shouldn't be living where I do. It's one of the worst rated bushfire risk areas in the world. And I'm still in a position to sell this place.
If a slow burning fire was "set" to over take you home in 10 years, would you get out and sell now ? Or wait until the flames were at your front door ?
Who would buy a house if it was in the path of a looming catastrophe, and more to the point, how would you be even allowed to sell that house to another vendor?
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Who would buy a house if it was in the path of a looming catastrophe, and more to the point, how would you be even allowed to sell that house to another vendor?
Would you get out , regardless ?
But check back in 10 years. We'll see if the dire predictions come to pass or not.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
Resident USA Freedom Fundie
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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That's not the point.
The point is what faces people when they live in areas that are vulnerable to climate change impact, and how limited their choices are.
You seem to think that it is easy to move away from your community, to leave for dead the most valuable asset that most people will possess and start again. That's right, climate change impact means that your property is valueless. So yes of course, people can move away and normally do, but they are in fact refugees and deserving of sympathy if not support.
I wonder why you find this hard.
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