Christian Movement Says Husbands NEED To Keep Their Wives In Line

POSTED BY: Niki2
UPDATED: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:57
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On Twilight author Stephanie Meyer:

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Stephenie Meyer was born in Hartford, Connecticut, to Stephen and Candy Morgan. She grew up in Phoenix, Arizona, with five siblings: Seth, Emily, Jacob, Paul, and Heidi. She attended Chaparral High School in Scottsdale, Arizona, where her former English teacher remembered her as "bright but not overly so."[12] She attended Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah where she received a B.A. in English in 1997.[13] Meyer met her husband Christian when she was 4 years old in Arizona, and married him in 1994 when they were both 21. Together they have three sons: Gabe, Seth, and Eli. Christian Meyer, formerly an auditor, has now retired to take care of the children.[14]

Meyer is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints; she has stated that she is straight-laced about her beliefs and does not drink alcohol or smoke.[15] Meyer had no experience as a writer of any kind and had never even written a short story before Twilight. She had considered going to law school because she felt she had no chance of becoming a writer; she later noted that the birth of her oldest son Gabe changed her mind, saying, "Once I had Gabe, I just wanted to be his mom."[15] Before becoming an author, Meyer's only professional work was as a receptionist in a property company

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephanie_Meyer

She wanted to be a lawyer, and then she "realized" that oh no, she needed to be a stay at home mom instead.

Provo gives me the HEEBIES, let me tell you. The whole town is Stepfordia and people who enter BYU come out... CHANGED. And then Provo has connections to the whole juvenile detention camp thing. Some of those issues exist in SLC too, but because it's a bit more diverse and so the government has to make a play at pretending to carter to other belief and ethnic groups. Not in Provo, where it's terrifyingly uniform.

This is the ugly side to Utah. Where the church is secretly the government, and there's all these business connections where people meet at their wards, and it influences everything. And in the church, women don't get into heaven without their husbands, who they're bound to for all eternity. Husbands become patriarchs and gods of their own heavenly planets, women get to be.... Their wives. And they frown on divorce, even in the case of abuse or adultery, and often refuse to grant church divorces, which screws up the lives of believers who want to get married to other people, and every aspect of people's lives is all political and arranged.

I am a tomboy with no interest in marriage or babies and I was raised in this environment.

If it weren't for how great the natural scenery is, I wouldn't want to stay around here.

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James initially wrote fanfiction under the pen name "Snowqueens Icedragon", with her most notable work being a Twilight fanfiction that eventually developed into Fifty Shades of Grey.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._L._James

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Fifty Shades of Grey has attracted criticism due to its origin as a fan fiction based on the Twilight novels, with some readers predicting copyright issues due to this connection.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Shades_of_Grey#Origin_as_fan_fiction

Cites just in case to prove the connection.

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ALL of that gives me the heebie-jeebies too, Byte. I couldn't live there, if it were the most beautiful scenery in the world. Luckily the scenery where I live is pretty fantastic anyway, and the people here work to keep it that way, while at the same time encapsulating a political attitude where I can live in peace. You have my deepest sympathy (and I hope that copyright infringement thing happens! ;o) )

I've never read the book, and obviously now wouldn't be caught dead doing so. All I can say is "shudder!"

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Thank you, Geezer, it's good to know they condemn domestic violence. I will await word that they condemn CDD specifically, however, as it doesn't consider itself domestic violence OR domestic abuse.

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How very disingenuous of you.

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"If she didn't spend so much time trolling "hate Conservatives" sites, she probably wouldn't have heard of CDD either" is also a blatant lie and you know it.

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Sources for your recent posts include:

Mediamatters.com
Alternet.org
Rightwingwatch.org
Addictinginfo.org
(where your info on CDD seems to have originated http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/06/21/spank-me-for-jesus-christian-m
ovement-says-husbands-need-to-keep-their-wives-in-line/ )


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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I'm not going to argue the issue with you, except to say that MediaMatters highlights things from BOTH sides (ETA: Correction, I was thinking of MediaITE, which is one of those I check occasionally; MediaMatters must have been a link from another story somewhere, dunno where I quoted it), and has recently gone after Obama and the left far more than the right, and I don't read Rightwingwatch; it was a link to a story and I clicked on the link. I do not read Rightwingwatch specifically because of its agenda. I also virtually never go to MSNBC, nor do I watch it anymore, and I avoid the Daily Beast and Huffpost; sometimes articles link to those sources and, if it's well written, I might use the material there.

As I've said before, I START with CNN, Time, Christian Science Monitor and BBC...usually the stories they cover are things which are already posted, but a LOT of my threads come from those sources, or from links on those websites. I've listed some of the other websites I visit daily as well and yes, if I can't find anything of other interest, I check those you listed as well. As well as smaller, local news sites. If you did a tally of the websites I quote, you'd find those you list among them, but not predominant.

Ironically, the original story on CDD was from US News ( http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/susan-milligan/2013/06/21/maybe-ex
odus-international-can-save-women-from-christian-domestic-discipline), and I quoted part of it originally, then went to the CDD website and I chose to quote mostly directly from it, as well as other articles I found by googling.

Given you have no problem with the MASSIVE number of posts from obviously not just slanted but downright propagandistic "websites" PN links to consistently, as well as Breitbart, Infowars, etc., which seem to be Rap's stock in trade, I find your accusations pathetically weak.

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Originally posted by Niki2:
I'm not going to argue the issue with you, except to say that MediaMatters highlights things from BOTH sides, and has recently gone after Obama and the left far more than the right, and I don't read Rightwingwatch; it was a link to a story and I clicked on the link. I do not read Rightwingwatch specifically because of its agenda. I also virtually never go to MSNBC, nor do I watch it anymore, and I avoid the Daily Beast and Huffpost; sometimes articles link to those sources and, if it's well written, I might use the material there.

As I've said before, I START with CNN, Time, Christian Science Monitor and BBC...usually the stories they cover are things which are already posted, but a LOT of my threads come from those sources, or from links on those websites. I've listed some of the other websites I visit daily as well and yes, if I can't find anything of other interest, I check those you listed as well. As well as smaller, local news sites. If you did a tally of the websites I quote, you'd find those you list among them, but not predominant.

Ironically, the original story on CDD was from US News ( http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/susan-milligan/2013/06/21/maybe-ex
odus-international-can-save-women-from-christian-domestic-discipline), and I quoted part of it originally, then went to the CDD website and I chose to quote mostly directly from it, as well as other articles I found by googling.

Given you have no problem with the MASSIVE number of posts from obviously not just slanted but downright propagandistic "websites" PN links to consistently, as well as Breitbart, Infowars, etc., which seem to be Rap's stock in trade, I find your accusations pathetically weak.

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Stalking, much?

Do enjoy; it bothers me not in the least, and illustrates you for everyone else.

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Ironically, the original story on CDD was from US News ( http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/susan-milligan/2013/06/21/maybe-ex
odus-international-can-save-women-from-christian-domestic-discipline), and I quoted part of it originally, then went to the CDD website and I chose to quote mostly directly from it, as well as other articles I found by googling.

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Sorry, but much of what you quoted was from addictinginfo, such as:

"Both sites have specific categories for Husbands and Wives. In each, we either get a scroll down menu or a click takes you to a page with topics. On CDD.com, in the “Husband” category, we’ve got Leadership, Understanding, Discipline. But CDD.net takes it a little further; their scroll down includes: A Woman’s Nature, To Be Cherished, To Be Led, To Be Protected, The Edge. A sampling:..." and on and on.

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Given you have no problem with the MASSIVE number of posts from obviously not just slanted but downright propagandistic "websites" PN links to consistently, as well as Breitbart, Infowars, etc., which seem to be Rap's stock in trade, I find your accusations pathetically weak.

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I ignore most of what PN posts, and the fact that Auraptor sometimes cites Brietbart, etc., does not change the fact that you often do cite liberal-supporting, conservative-denegrating sites. And I didn't even mention the liberal bloggers you also cite so frequently.

If you want to compare apples to apples, give me some 'Conservative' sites I've frequently cited in first posts of threads I've created.






"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Well Christian doctrine, like Islam and Judaism is derived from texts written hundreds/thousands of years ago when the role and status of women in society was extremely different to what it is today. Those who perceive these texts as literally being the word of god want them followed to the letter - well when that letter suits them. So these religions equally define the role of woman as being subservient to men within their holy texts.

So what do religious people do when faced with outdated concepts within sacred texts? This is something I've never really come to terms with. Do you accept some tenets and reject others? Most Christians seem content to eat shellfish, not accept slavery, do not call for the death penalty for people who work on the Sabbath. Yet they can quote the Bible regarding homosexuality and get quite uptight over abortion, despite the rifeness of infanticide in the Bible.

These people that Niki cites are quoting and following the Bible, so why shouldn't Christians be accountable for their actions and explain how they decide teachings in the Bible should be followed and what is no longer acceptable.

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Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I
have learned a great deal from your radio show, and I try to share
that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to
defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them
that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of
debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the
specific Bible laws and how to follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates
a pleasing odour for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my
neighbours bitch to the zoning people. They claim the odour is not
pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in
Exodus 21:7. What do you think would be a fair price for her? She's
18 and starting college. Will the slave buyer be required to
continue to pay for her education by law?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in
her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem
is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence
and threaten to call Human Resources.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and
female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A
friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not
Canadians. Can you clarify?

Why can't I own Canadians? Is there something wrong with them due to
the weather?

e) I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus
35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally
obligated to kill him myself, or should this be a neighbourhood
improvement project? What is a good day to start? Should we begin
with small stones? Kind of lead up to it?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an
abomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than
homosexuality. I don't agree. I mean, a shrimp just isn't the same
as a you-know-what. Can you settle this?

g) Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I
have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading
glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle
room here? Would contact lenses fall within some exception?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair
around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by
Lev.19:27. How should they die? The Mafia once took out Albert
Anastasia in a barbershop, but I'm not Catholic; is this ecumenical
thing a sign that it's ok?

i) I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes
me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two
different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing
garments made of two

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