Questions that conservatives can't answer

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"There are numerous reports of evidence and conclusions being falisfied or 'adjusted to reflect administration policy'" (presumably in support of AGW)

"One such example is NASA where only former members of the organization are able to dispute the official policy."

"There are a lot of scientists who already published articles pointing out a lot of things can cause the temps to go up and down and man's influence is negligable at best."
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We could take them in order, but some of them have been discussed in depth.

1. We've had extensive discussions of recent revlelations of deliberate falisified evidence in the Climategate scandal. We've also discussed over the years media reports of Obama administration adjusting reports to reflect administration policy. We had the same discussion about the Bush and Clinton administrations on various other issues.

2. This is pretty widespread on the Net but was one example of former scientists and experts coming forward AFTER they leave a partcular organization. We've talked about this before as well. Don't know why you folks want to rehash those old arguments. We disagree...I think its been pretty well settled.

3. Lots of scientists...no your probably right. Not one scientist I can name has ever studied the Sun, the moon, the ocean currents, tectonic activity, or the historical record that dates from about ten seconds ago all the way back to the dawn of time and somewhere along the way dinasaurs died, mountains of ice stretched from Santa's House to Cinderlla's castle and we were one big happy land mass and Antartica was a nice place to live. Oh, and this is the year of the winter that would not end...clearly the worst ever cause its snowing in March and it never snows in March...ever, especially not on opening day of Baseball season a couple years back that had not only some snow but a full size blizzard. But granted it never snowed before man developed industry. Why I was just reading about the warm, comfy winters at Valley Forge in 1777 and Napoleon fighting heat stroke in Russia in 1812. You might want to read about the gentle and pleasant rainstorm that drifted across Maryland the day after the Britsh burned the White House in 1814. Certainly the Vikings were known for their tropical homesteads in Norway and I'm sure crossing the Alps was difficult for Hannibal because it was too hot. Nope, I can't name a single book written on any of those subjects, its certainly not something one would read in grade school, high school, or college. Also, can't name a single scientist who's ever considered studying those subjects either. A couple years back a volcano erupted and disrupted air travel in Europe for a number of weeks...I wonder why...probably something to do with global warming, cause volcanic ash has no effect on anything, especially climate...

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

"Questions that conservatives can't/refuse to answer"
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I'm pretty sure that means we answered them...because we could not refuse.

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Okie dokie, son. Since you're so up on all of these points, please tell us exactly what data was 'falsified' (if any), and what effect it had on the conclusion. Also, how many scientists were involved? BE SPECIFIC.

I do not recall a single discussion on Obama changing a report to reflect policy except to DOWNPLAY AGW. If you have any information to the contrary, please bring it to the table. Again, BE SPECIFIC. Names, dates, reports.


I do not recall any such discussion about scientists only able to come forward after they left an organization. There was one prominent scientist- Hanson- who had a great deal of trouble but that was because he was trying to sound the alarm. Again, if you have information to the contrary, please being it to the board. BE SPECIFIC- cites, quotes, links.

Please note for the record that you are being asked for the SECOND time to be specific. Saying "That's old hat" isn't an answer, especially since I don't recall most of what you're alluding to. You have two choices: answer the questions or bail from the thread.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
"What policies lead you to believe that the USA is in imminent danger of becoming a communist state?"

Cmon, answer. I need a to laugh at you.

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wrong thread?

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Look up.

"Questions that conservatives can't/refuse to answer"


That's what this thread is called. Seems like a good place for Magons's question.

I notice you still won't answer, thereby proving it is indeed in the right thread.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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He's gone from proving he can't answer - to proving he doesn't even read which thread he's in! Points for honesty, I guess.




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Okie dokie, son. Since you're so up on all of these points, please tell us exactly what data was 'falsified' (if any), and what effect it had on the conclusion. Also, how many scientists were involved? BE SPECIFIC.

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And of course - your answer is silence.

Because he can't answer it - or muster the integirty to admit as much.




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Originally posted by Hero:

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

"Questions that conservatives can't/refuse to answer"
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I'm pretty sure that means we answered them...because we could not refuse.

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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I'm pretty sure that you cannot read English.

I've never considered you particularly bright, and you've never given me cause to regret that conclusion. In fact, here you've quite reinforced it.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Originally posted by Hero:

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"There are numerous reports of evidence and conclusions being falisfied or 'adjusted to reflect administration policy'" (presumably in support of AGW)

"One such example is NASA where only former members of the organization are able to dispute the official policy."

"There are a lot of scientists who already published articles pointing out a lot of things can cause the temps to go up and down and man's influence is negligable at best."
.

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We could take them in order, but some of them have been discussed in depth.

1. We've had extensive discussions of recent revlelations of deliberate falisified evidence in the Climategate scandal. We've also discussed over the years media reports of Obama administration adjusting reports to reflect administration policy. We had the same discussion about the Bush and Clinton administrations on various other issues.

2. This is pretty widespread on the Net but was one example of former scientists and experts coming forward AFTER they leave a partcular organization. We've talked about this before as well. Don't know why you folks want to rehash those old arguments. We disagree...I think its been pretty well settled.

3. Lots of scientists...no your probably right. Not one scientist I can name has ever studied the Sun, the moon, the ocean currents, tectonic activity, or the historical record that dates from about ten seconds ago all the way back to the dawn of time and somewhere along the way dinasaurs died, mountains of ice stretched from Santa's House to Cinderlla's castle and we were one big happy land mass and Antartica was a nice place to live. Oh, and this is the year of the winter that would not end...clearly the worst ever cause its snowing in March and it never snows in March...ever, especially not on opening day of Baseball season a couple years back that had not only some snow but a full size blizzard. But granted it never snowed before man developed industry. Why I was just reading about the warm, comfy winters at Valley Forge in 1777 and Napoleon fighting heat stroke in Russia in 1812. You might want to read about the gentle and pleasant rainstorm that drifted across Maryland the day after the Britsh burned the White House in 1814. Certainly the Vikings were known for their tropical homesteads in Norway and I'm sure crossing the Alps was difficult for Hannibal because it was too hot. Nope, I can't name a single book written on any of those subjects, its certainly not something one would read in grade school, high school, or college. Also, can't name a single scientist who's ever considered studying those subjects either. A couple years back a volcano erupted and disrupted air travel in Europe for a number of weeks...I wonder why...probably something to do with global warming, cause volcanic ash has no effect on anything, especially climate...

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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And still, after all those words (some of them even spelled correctly!), you cannot come up with a single credible cite or source for these claims.


Tell us all again why we should just take your word for it.






"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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What I see the a bunch of right-wing parrots. They heard it from somebody who heard it from somebody, who heard it from a right-wing authority that it was true. And well, it came from the authority so it must be fact. A fact that doesn't need verification.

It's pretty obvious they haven't bothered to look up any actual studies, or bothered their extremely lazy and puny brains with any actual thinking.

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I don't get it. Doesn't Hero purport to be an attorney? Doesn't he understand that writing a buncha stuff doesn't mean anything if he doesn't give specifics...you know, "evidence"? He just took what he wrote before and wrote "we've discussed before..." I don't remember a single thread showing the things he claims, and that third "point" is pure idiocy...is that really a point he's trying to make?

Once again, "hero" proves he knows nothing about debate and couldn't possibly be an attorney.

And I'll say it flat out: "We've had extensive discussions of recent revlelations (sic) of deliberate falisified (sic) evidence in the Climategate scandal." No, we haven't, I'd remember it if we had, so unless you have evidence of same, you're lying.

"We've also discussed over the years media reports of Obama administration adjusting reports to reflect administration policy." No, we haven't had any discussions of the Obama administration adjusting reports having to do with climate change. Unless you have evidence of same, you're lying.

That third point doesn't even deserve a response...I didn't read past the second "sentence", which wasn't even a real sentence, since it said nothing.

Essentially, yeah, "what Kiki said". Hero at least seems to remember things which either didn't happen, or perhaps someone put up what he said and it was disproven or debunked or whatever--who knows?

Essentially, we have yet to see anything. The question stands.

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