The Hitler Conundrum
POSTED BY: RionaEire
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 28, 2026 18:31
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That is probably also true. Probably doesn't account for the majority of all that prolific Mongol DNA sharing Byte mentioned, though. Or involved the wives having any say in the matter. Which, in a more general way, just shows how much patriarchy sucks. Yay for women's rights! 
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Originally posted by RionaEire:
Okay, so what do you guys think? Because I'm perplexed.
That's all really interesting questions Riona.... On sheer subject matter anyway, I'm the wrong person to ask. I'm just barely majority Irish, logging in about 27.5% Irish, barely beating out my 25% Polish. I didn't even know I was majority Irish until I heard for the first time that there is Irish Ancestry on my Dad's side. He was already a European Mutt himself. My mom was 50/50 Irish/Polish though.
That being said, I know as much about St. Patrick as I do Pulaski.... which is to say I grew up thinking about them both along the lines of Santa Claus. Honestly, to this day, without looking either up on Wikipedia, I couldn't tell you a single thing they did, let alone why they had days of the year named after them.
What I can say, is that the adage "history is written by the winners" is true. Although I'm sure anything St. Patty did wouldn't hold a candle to Hitler's legacy, I highly doubt that even what Hitler supposedly did would live up to his own legacy.
Really though, I'd just chalk it up to a few basic truths. People, in general, are stupid. People, in general, are easily led. People, in general, want to sound witty in their oftentimes misguided and stupid beliefs. He could have just as easily had said that St. Patty was his "Ghengis Kahn", but assuming he doesn't know you very well, you might have just shrugged that one off. "Hitler" as cliche as any reference about him has become in the last nearly 70 years, will never be lost on anyone.
If you were both big Star Wars fans and both knew it (in your second example), they could have just as easily asked "Do you have a crush on Emperor Palpatine too?" Maybe you both loved the Harry Potter books and they asked "Do you have a crush on Lord Voldemort too?". It could even get really obscure if you knew each other VERY well. Say you both had a discussion one day that you loved old Final Fantasy games. They could ask "Do you have a crush on Kefka too?????"
I wouldn't take any offense to it, or worry for a second that this is not the first time you've been asked this question. If I had to guess, similar questions with the mention of Hitler are probably asked 1,000 times a day online and in person during debates and regular conversation. If nothing else, the fact that "Hitler" even came out of their mouth shows how one dimensional they are, and is not at all a reflection on you.
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I actually mostly approve of comparing things to Hitler and the Nazis when appropriate, because it brings it down to Earth. We're not talking about lofty unachievable evil, the most evil that anyone has ever committed and no one will ever again. We're talking about evil that any insane hateful paranoid meglomaniac could do, that we always have to be vigilant against.
So saying that both St. Patrick and Hitler committed genocide is a perfectly valid comparison IMO. Like saying Stalin and Hitler committed genocide. St. Patrick, Hitler, and Stalin are evil because of the genocide - the numbers make one example more horrific, true, but it doesn't make either of them "less" evil. Genocide is genocide.
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No real proof, is all I'm saying Byte....
Saying "Hitler" this or "Hitler" that is like quoting Disney....
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So y'all know about my not-so-secret crush on Genghis Khan.
Lol, no I didn't. How did that come about?
I'm guessing (hoping) it wasn't from reading accounts of his atrocities...I've read a book called 'Wolf of the Plains', which is a very good fictionalised version of Genghis's rise to power and prominence - but based mainly on real, documented history. Genghis was definitely a very impressive man.
It's not personal. It's just war.
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No real proof, is all I'm saying Byte....
Saying "Hitler" this or "Hitler" that is like quoting Disney....
Yeah, Disney was another evil anti-Semite, all right.
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero
"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012
Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"
Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."
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There's just no pleasing a Druish Princess......(sorry Mel)
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No real proof, is all I'm saying Byte....
Saying "Hitler" this or "Hitler" that is like quoting Disney....
It's true, I can't confirm that he killed people. But destroying culture is also a kind of genocide, and surely he promoted discrimination against the old ways. Apart from copping their holidays.
I don't hate St. Patrick like this Druidic family - who almost certainly were probably christian not 20 years ago. But I can somewhat understand where the person Riona met is coming from, even though I think he doesn't really have rights to outrage or anger beyond what everyone must feel towards genocide.
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Nazi porno Prince Harry Potty separated at birth from Major Hewitt
All religions do lots of killin.
Druids love roasting babies over BONE-fires.
https://www.google.com/search?q=druids+bonefires
British royals eat the brains of Irishmen.
Prince Charles gets buggered by his butler.
Prince Philip holds George Bush's spotted dick at Bohemian Grove ("the queen's favorite dessert").
BBC TV hosts rape little children for the pope and Satan.
Who knew?
British places that eat Mr Brains Faggots
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Rione, the guy sounds like a bit of a jerk, because there isn't any way that he could really compare his experiences of choosing to be a druid and what happened 1600 years ago with St Patrick and the experience of modern days Jews and Hitler.
Nevertheless, I guess its not a bad idea to keep in mind how people gained their mythological status ...that is 'great deeds' too often equals 'lots of people died'.
History is written by the victors, so becomes the myth that is St Patrick. If Hitler had won, the story of WW2 would be very different to the one we tell today.
I saw a film on Ghengis Khan recently, and it made him out to be pretty awesome. I think it was a mongolian film, so that probably explains it.
I find a lot of people who admire celtic lifestyle are often really looking at a pretty artificial construct that bears little reality to past or present. Plastic Paddies, we call them here.
But whatever floats your boat. Sounds like he was either kidding or a bit of a jerk.
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