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Is George W Bush retarded?

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Sunday, February 10, 2013 12:22 AM


Fav Bush self-portrait of Yale Skull & Boner roommate Victor "Victoria" Ashe

Hacked emails now leaked to the press of Bush family members and friends reveal a series of correspondence concerned about the hospitalization of the elder Bush, arrangements for family gatherings and events, as well as photos of Bush the Younger painting… and sitting around in a bathtub sketching his feet, then his reflection while standing in the shower.

The hacker left his watermark “Guccifer” on the leaked photos, but not the sketches, and is reportedly now under investigation by the Secret Service. But it offers a little seen glimpse at the 43rd president.

These sketches and photos suggest that he spends a lot of time reflecting and, perhaps, stewing in his own juices:



Former presidents LBJ and Nixon both sunk into deep depressions after they left office, sunken, perhaps, by a combination of leaving the busy public life and its frequent and serious stimuli, as well as the pressure of guilt, regret and other emotions over their roles in some of the most controversial and unscrupulous presidential actions, to which the public reacted with strong disapproval.

LBJ had JFK, the Gulf of Tonkin and the Vietnam conflict. Nixon too shared Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia, and of course, had Watergate. Bush had 9/11, the phony WMDs, the PATRIOT Act, torture and the shameful War on Terror.

Has Bush’s legacy — along with widespread public hatred, ridicule and calls for impeachment and arrest — left him depressed?

Reports circulated in 2004 claiming that then President 43 was taking “powerful anti-depressant drugs to control his erratic behavior, depression and paranoia.” Speculation about the president’s depression and coping mechanisms continued through the end of his second term.

Lyndon Baines Johnson, a thoroughly corrupt Texas politician, gained office through his assassination of JFK, and held office during the high profile assassinations of MLK and RFK, when Johnson stunned political observers and declined to run for re-election. He died four years, almost to the day, after leaving office, reportedly after suffering from severe depression. Lawyer and close LBJ associate Barr McClellan wrote the 2003 book Blood, Money & Power, which implicated LBJ in the Kennedy assassination, and reported on his swift decline after office:

“He was exhausted. The emotions of paranoia and depression left him weakened. The decision was spur of the moment. He instantly regretted it. Clark did not know and never forgave him. By 1968, Johnson was a broken man and could take no more.”

Nixon’s resignation after the pressure from the Watergate scandal threatened impeachment, was bitter and reluctant, much like his narrow loss to Kennedy in the 1960 presidential race and subsequent embarrassing defeat to Pat Brown for California governor in 1962, after which he bitterly told the press, “You won’t have Nixon to kick around anymore.”

Nixon after Watergate was reportedly paranoid, reclusive, unhinged and depressed. He took frequent long walks on the beach, rarely meeting with the press or public eye, and used his Phlebitis illness to avoid subpoenas to testify in trials for his former cabinet officials after being formally pardoned by Gerald Ford.

Bush 43 swiftly left the limelight, with the celebrity and precedent of Obama, the first black president, taking over the media focus with deafening thunder, effectively giving the first presidential dynastic successor since John Quincy Adams (the 6th president), a clean get away from public scrutiny and frequent criticism.

The Bush political family is solidly rooted in Skull & Bones, and the skullduggery of East Coast blue bloods. His grandfather Prescott Bush worked in Wall Street banking for railroad heir and fellow bonesman Averill Harriman and played a prominent role in financing the Nazis before becoming Senator. His father, George H.W. Bus

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Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:00 AM

As crazed despots go, Hitler was the better artist.

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Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:36 AM

I think the question is something of a moot point, dont you?

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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:54 AM

just answering the main thread question.... yes

Retarded like a fox....

The WORST president he had just on his own merits....

The fact that he allowed the next 8 years makes him un-impeachably the worst president we've ever had.

Obama would NEVER have happened if GWB never happened before him....

16 straight years of flushing the US down the toilet.

Thanks GWB........

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Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:12 AM

I think the question insults retarded people/

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Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:24 PM

Oh gee, poor poor presidents and the public being mean to them. MAYBE YA SHOULDN'TA BEEN ASSHOLES WHILE IN OFFICE!

Lying buncha snakes.

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Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Obama would NEVER have happened if GWB never happened before him....

16 straight years of flushing the US down the toilet.



Bush was a byproduct of the post-Reagan Republican implosion. Nothing but shitty hopelessly dim-witted and dull candidates. A pathetically inept and un-inspiring list of moderate milktoast douchebags for 20 years:

George HW Bush...(Lost to Clinton)
Bob Dole...............(Lost to Clinton)
George W Bush
John McCain......(Lost to Obama)
Mitt Romney......(Lost to Obama)

Not one true Conservative among them. Not one articulate and charismatic leader among them. Not one smart and tough campaigner among them. Just a bunch of recycled political hacks. It all starts again in 2014. Has the RNC called Warren Harding yet?

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Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:53 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:


A pathetically inept and un-inspiring list of moderate milktoast douchebags for 20 years...




More like 150 years.



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Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:20 PM

Been a few good Republican leaders in last 150 years...

Ronald Reagan
Dwight Eisenhower
Teddy Roosevelt
Abe Lincoln

I guess that's about it.

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Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:14 PM

Damn, Ike. Why can't we have more Ikes? Warning us about government corruption and lobbyists. I'm kinda with you there Jong. If we had more Ikes, maybe some of the batshit crazy groups wouldn't have taken over parts of the government and corporate sectors because the American people would have recognized the danger.

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Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Been a few good Republican leaders in last 150 years...

Ronald Reagan



I think there's a big gulf between his actual performance as Prez, and the legend that has been build around him since. Between the tax increases, expansion of government,and the massive balooning of the deficit - that he would be counted as one of the bad ones by actual conservatives.

And that's not even touching on his actually losing his mind in office...




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

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Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Damn, Ike. Why can't we have more Ikes? Warning us about government corruption and lobbyists. I'm kinda with you there Jong. If we had more Ikes, maybe some of the batshit crazy groups wouldn't have taken over parts of the government and corporate sectors because the American people would have recognized the danger.


Eisenhower was a much better President than he is generally given credit for. A true military hero with humble roots, not a smarmy lawyer/politician. Today there are no Ikes, and I doubt we'll ever see one again.

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Friday, February 15, 2013 2:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Damn, Ike. Why can't we have more Ikes? Warning us about government corruption and lobbyists. I'm kinda with you there Jong. If we had more Ikes, maybe some of the batshit crazy groups wouldn't have taken over parts of the government and corporate sectors because the American people would have recognized the danger.




You do realize that Ike was in large part responsible for that huge massive buildup of the influence of the military-industrial complex, right? It's kind of like a serial killer telling you the streets aren't safe after dark.

Reagan was a piece of shit who should have been shot. His policies have pretty much all been proven failures.





"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Friday, February 15, 2013 3:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Damn, Ike. Why can't we have more Ikes? Warning us about government corruption and lobbyists. I'm kinda with you there Jong. If we had more Ikes, maybe some of the batshit crazy groups wouldn't have taken over parts of the government and corporate sectors because the American people would have recognized the danger.




You do realize that Ike was in large part responsible for that huge massive buildup of the influence of the military-industrial complex, right? It's kind of like a serial killer telling you the streets aren't safe after dark.



Oh. Bleh.

Shoulda known, none of them are any good. :/

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Friday, February 15, 2013 5:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Reagan was a piece of shit who should have been shot.


You might have impressed Jodie Foster with that one.

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 1:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
As crazed despots go, Hitler was the better artist.



Big admirer of Der Fuehrer's art, are ya?

Figures.



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Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
As crazed despots go, Hitler was the better artist.



Big admirer of Der Fuehrer's art, are ya?





About as much as you're a big admirer of goat porn.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 1:14 PM


Big expert in goat porn, are ya ? Never knew there was such a thing. But if I take your meaning on the issue, you have zero knowledge on anything Hitler drew, yet by grande fiat, you've decided his art is better than W's ?

And you base this declarative opinion on... what ?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 1:42 PM

[url] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paintings_by_Adolf_Hitler[/url]

Apparently, he never depicted people.

Since I'm a big fan of portraits, I'll go with the Bush art.

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 2:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Obama would NEVER have happened if GWB never happened before him....

16 straight years of flushing the US down the toilet.



Bush was a byproduct of the post-Reagan Republican implosion. Nothing but shitty hopelessly dim-witted and dull candidates. A pathetically inept and un-inspiring list of moderate milktoast douchebags for 20 years:

George HW Bush...(Lost to Clinton)
Bob Dole...............(Lost to Clinton)
George W Bush
John McCain......(Lost to Obama)
Mitt Romney......(Lost to Obama)

Not one true Conservative among them. Not one articulate and charismatic leader among them. Not one smart and tough campaigner among them. Just a bunch of recycled political hacks. It all starts again in 2014. Has the RNC called Warren Harding yet?



I wouldn't go as far as to say that HW, Dole, McCain or Romney weren't "smart". I never thought for a second that W was dumb either, no matter how many SNL jokes were made about it.

They also might not have been bad campaigners either, had they not just been "puppet-plants" by the GOP fixture (which, lets be honest is largely made up of a bunch of rich white people). They were not, for a single second in their campaign, in control of their own "destiny". The same can be said equally for the Democrats as well. If you rewound time 20 years and Obama was running then, he would have gotten about as much of the popular vote as any 3rd rate-3rd party candidate, especially since he was black.

That's kind of my point here... Even if Obama were white 20 years ago, on his platform he would have likely beaten out the Green Party, but there wouldn't have been a chance in hell that he would have gotten in. Everything going on in the world today made him our president. (Justified) Fear that things might get worse if people voted for the other side made him our President for the second time.

In popular culture, particularly movies and video games, we see this mentality all the time. How many Saw movies will be made before people are so desensitized to that vile shit that they won't keep feeding the machine enough money to make another one every Halloween? (Or for that matter... why on earth was there two "Hollywood" sequels to Paranormal Activity or Clerks..... Both movies were AWESOME on their own, but not only did the sequels feel forced, but they actually detracted from the brilliance of the originals. Even a top-shelf Hollywood flick like the Matrix suffered from that. I wish I'd never even seen the two sequels because in the back of my mind I view the trilogy as a whole and it's about a 5/10 rating for me now when the original movie was at the very least a 9.5/10.

I haven't owned a current-gen Gaming rig for nearly a decade, but I read my brother's EGM magazine on the crapper..... Sports games seem to be the most egregious offenders here, although yearly expected shooter franchises are becoming a close second. Why would people buy a new Madden or NBA title year after year if all they're going to do is "go through the motions" and not invent anything new that's worthwhile to keep people vested?



In the end, I do feel somewhat bad for Obama. I don't think he knew what he was getting himself into. I honestly don't believe that just because he was another crooked politician from the most crooked county in the most crooked state in America that he is an evil man.

Look how physically ill Clinton looked 8 years later compared to his original photo shoot. If Obama were lilly-white like Clinton, you'd probably notice the red on his honker too.

I'm sure the "power" of the position makes up for everything else in a lot of ways. At the end of the day though, even though he makes 20 times more than most of us at least and gets free helicopter rides to Broadway shows for his family, he ain't made close to what Lind

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 4:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


But if I take your meaning on the issue, you have zero knowledge on anything Hitler drew, yet by grande fiat, you've decided his art is better than W's ?

And you base this declarative opinion on... what ?




And there's the meat of the matter - Rappy can only see the world in an all-or-nothing view. If I joke that Hitler was a better painter than Dubya (and technically, objectively, he was), Rappy says that means I'm a big Hitler fan. And if I say I'm not a huge fan of Hitler's art, Rappy says that means I've never seen a single piece of his work.

I can have seen his paintings and not been overly impressed, you know. There IS a middle ground. He had a decent grasp of perspective - artistically speaking, not in the overall grand scheme of things, about which the man had little perspective at all - and a moderate amount of technical artistic talent, but his work was a bit cold and flat, devoid of character.





As to porn, see rule 34. If it exists, there is porn of it.



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"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 4:53 PM


My guess is that Hitler put more effort into his art 'career' than W. If his talent was more developed , so what ? Seems like a great deal of fuss over nothing of any real significance.

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 5:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

My guess is that Hitler put more effort into his art 'career' than W. If his talent was more developed , so what ? Seems like a great deal of fuss over nothing of any real significance.




So you admit I'm right after all.

So why did you feel the need to make a fuss over nothing of any real significance, then? It was you who claimed I admire Hitler, not me. Did you forget that already?


I stated, quite simply, that as despots go, Hitler was the better artist. And you felt the need to bitch about it, and now you admit I'm right. So why were you bitching in the first place? Was it because you were ignorant of Hitler's painting talent or did you just reflexively feel the need to try to disagree with something purely because of who said it, not because of what was said?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 5:33 PM


Bush wasn't a crazed despot. Hitler was.



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Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Bush wasn't a crazed despot.




Bit of a matter of opinion there. Many would disagree.

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Bush wasn't a crazed despot.



Bit of a matter of opinion there. Many would disagree.



Well, I agree. Bush wasn't a despot; he lacked the mental capacity to be any such thing. He was merely an incompetent tool put forward and manipulated by those who really wanted to be the new crazed despots of the western world.

Even so, I wish folks would leave the guy's hobby alone. He's got to live with the fact that he led the free world for eight years and botched it horribly, and will be known for generations as the guy who fucked up just about everything for America and for his party.

Not that I think W's fully aware of this. Doing bad paintings is likely a handy way for him to avoid his sad reality. I say, leave him to it, as long as he stays put and doesn't try to come back and pick up where he left off. We're finally starting to recover.

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Sunday, March 21, 2021 1:12 AM

George W. Bush on the Capitol Trumpers 'I was sick to my stomach'

https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/politics/national-politics/george-w-
bush-capitol-insurrection/67-bc882619-bfd7-40b9-9b61-15f5c644d2b0


During his eight years in office, President George W. Bush gave us some great laughs. Many of his quotes—often called Bushisms—were among the best political humor we saw in modern history.

https://www.liveabout.com/dumbest-bush-quotes-of-all-time-2734076


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