Sandy Hook 'truthers' harass Newtown man, conspiracy theories go viral
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
The medical examiner identifies the injuries from a "long rifle". The AR is the only thing the shooter had that fits that. Second the shear number of rounds suggests the rifle and it's larger capacity mag. Third, it make no sense that the shooter would take the AR-15 to the school and than not use it.
But per the L.A. Times:
"When Adam Lanza left the house, he took a Bushmaster .223 rifle and two handguns -- a Glock 9-millimeter and a Sig Sauer semiautomatic, law enforcement sources said. He left the rifle in the back seat of his mother's car, which he used to drive to the school. Both handguns were fired in the attack, sources said."
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/dec/15/nation/la-na-nn-sandy-hook-gun
man -tried-to-buy-rifile-days-before-20121215
(I put a space in the link so it'd wrap around)
"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."
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Originally posted by Geezer:Quote:
Originally posted by m52nickerson:
The medical examiner identifies the injuries from a "long rifle". The AR is the only thing the shooter had that fits that. Second the shear number of rounds suggests the rifle and it's larger capacity mag. Third, it make no sense that the shooter would take the AR-15 to the school and than not use it.
But per the L.A. Times:
"When Adam Lanza left the house, he took a Bushmaster .223 rifle and two handguns -- a Glock 9-millimeter and a Sig Sauer semiautomatic, law enforcement sources said. He left the rifle in the back seat of his mother's car, which he used to drive to the school. Both handguns were fired in the attack, sources said."
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/dec/15/nation/la-na-nn-sandy-hook-gun
man -tried-to-buy-rifile-days-before-20121215
(I put a space in the link so it'd wrap around)
"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."
3 things are confusing here ( and I'm not screaming 'conspiracy'! Just things that don't add up...
1. How'd the ME determine the wounds were made from " the long gun " ??
2. How'd the rifle end up in the trunk of the car ? Did he use it, put it away, then come back w/ just the hand guns ?
3. Why is there so much confusion as to the make of the rifle ?
Seems to me, on the last one, law enforcement would be competent enough to know what gun they had, and then simply report that to the media. How anyone could confuse something seemingly so straight forward ... is baffling.
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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What happens when a corporate TV news reporter actually does a little investigative journalism for his local primetime TV news broadcast?
http://cincinnati.com/blogs/tv/2013/01/18/ben-swanns-sandy-hook-video-
goes-viral/
http://www.salon.com/2013/01/14/is_it_okay_for_reporters_to_question_t
he_official_narrative_of_sandy_hook/
http://www.policymic.com/articles/23449/reporter-ben-swann-smeared-for
-questioning-media-s-sandy-hook-narrative
http://www.fox19.com/story/20608260/reality-check-an-apples-to-apples-
comparison-of-us-and-uk-violent-crime-rates
www.facebook.com/BenSwannRealityCheck
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Sandy Hook Mystery Man Identified; Why Did This Off Duty SWAT Officer Armed With A Gun Run Off Into The Woods Instead Of Helping The Students?
The mysterious man shown being pursued by the police after the Sandy Hook shooting in this video has been 'identified' as an off-duty AND ARMED tactical squad police officer from another Connecticut district, according to the Newtown Bee.:
"A man with a gun who was spotted in the woods near the school on the day of the incident was an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town, according to the source."
This development brings up more questions than it answers: why was a SWAT team officer armed with a gun in the vicinity of the Newtown shooting PRIOR to the shooting AND WHY is he running away from the shooting as A COWARD would do, instead of running in to the school seeing that he was armed with a gun? I guarantee this, my martial arts instructor, a former police officer, would have been inside that building in two seconds flat if it were him, especially being armed with a gun, rather than running away from the scene. Something is very fishy here and this newly released information from the Newtown Bee only adds fuel to the fire. Is this the smoking gun? A SWAT Team officer was at the school with a gun and he ran away into the woods? If that's typical behavior of SWAT in Connecticut, who needs them?
That’s pure baloney. Notice that they say “spotted” when, in fact, he was taken down and arrested. If he really was police, he would have shown officers his credentials and police would not have been led him away in handcuffs. We can probably expect more lame excuses like this as police concoct more false stories to cover for these arrests.
Wow...in fatigues and armed...."hancuffed and sitting in the front of a police car."
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Frank Arduini’s Ten Key Characteristics of Nut-Job Conspiracy Theorists
1. Religious zeal.
Nut-jobs generally believe that they are participants in a holy / patriotic / moral crusade, and hence their opponents are not merely political or ideological opponents, they are evil infidels.
2. Impermeability to incontrovertible fact.
It does not matter how conclusively or comprehensively an argument or assertion has been refuted, nut-jobs never abandon an argument once ventured. Nut-job lies never die.
3. Willingness to embrace the impossible.
Nut-job arguments regularly cross the line from excruciatingly improbable to physically impossible. Nut-jobs fearlessly violate the laws of physics and propose theories that rend the time-space continuum.
4. Abhorrence of simplicity (Rube Goldberg’s Razor) .
Nut-jobs never settle for a simple solution to a problem when a hopelessly complex and idiotic alternative can be proposed. “Occams Razor” is anathema to nut-jobs.
5. Emotional (and other) projection.
It is almost impossible to read someone else’s emotional state or actually know anything about them across the Internet. So nut-jobs regularly attribute their own emotional states, prejudices and motives to their opponents. This is often also called “Irony blindness.”
6. Anomaly Mining.
Nut-jobs are tireless in their search for minuscule anomalies and coincidences around which they assemble vast complexes of suspicion, most of which are actually irrelevant to their cause. The tiniest and most meaningless detail will often take on a life of its own, rendering their theories even more opaque and incomprehensible to rational observers.
7. Simultaneous contradictory beliefs.
Nut-jobs often imagine at the same time and even in the same sentence that (for example) they are fighting forces which are both super-humanly brilliant and powerful … and completely incompetent.
8. Irrational anticipation of imminent victory.
Nut-jobs are often convinced that they are just one day/argument/case away from completely vanquishing their rhetorical foes. They will believe this for years and years and years and…
9. Inability to comprehend disagreement.
Nut-jobs cannot conceive of anybody honestly disagreeing with them. Therefore anybody who disagrees must be either “part of the conspiracy,” paid to pretend they believe something they do not, or victims of violent extortion.
10. The Appeal to Galileo.
Nut-jobs know that they are considered nut-jobs. So they regularly appeal to “great nut-jobs of history” ; who were eventually proven to not be so nutty after all. Ignoring that Galileo was actually never considered a nut-job in the first place, for every nut-job rehabilitated by history ten thousand nut-jobs resolutely remained nut-jobs.
http://rcradioblog.wordpress.com/2012/02/22/the-ten-key-characteristic
s-of-nut-job-conspiracy-theorists/
sincerely, 1933
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3 things are confusing here ( and I'm not screaming 'conspiracy'! Just things that don't add up...
1. How'd the ME determine the wounds were made from " the long gun " ??
2. How'd the rifle end up in the trunk of the car ? Did he use it, put it away, then come back w/ just the hand guns ?
3. Why is there so much confusion as to the make of the rifle ?
Seems to me, on the last one, law enforcement would be competent enough to know what gun they had, and then simply report that to the media. How anyone could confuse something seemingly so straight forward ... is baffling.
I would think that the medical examiner could tell from the wounds. Now the video are we sure that is the Bushmaster rifle used or is it another gun? Are we even sure the news report got it right? I'm sure what you mean about confusion to the make of the rifle. The Bushmaster is a make of the AR-15.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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Annnd... the thread itself becomes a self demonstrating example.
One case of lazy and irresponsible journalism amplified by people with agendas, and viola!
And while for the record I do *NOT* believe this was anything more than the senseless tragedy it appears to be, I want you to ponder for a moment something, to try and bridge the gap here, so you understand.
What if, in respect to some other event this damned horrible, you wound up coming face to face with undeniable PROOF that the official story was a sham, a hoax, a coverup, and the truth was even more awful than people knew.
And no one would listen to you.
What would you do, how would you feel, what would be the mental, social, and psychological consequences of being in possession of such awful knowledge and willing to share it - but nobody, NOBODY, wanted to know, wanted to hear it, and scorned/hated/attacked you for trying to.
I've *watched* that spiral of crazy consume people, most of them in regards to attempts to blow the lid off the cover-up of abuse within the Catholic Church, something I was only even aware of as a side-order to trying to blow the lid off the Hellcamps - but there ARE serious psychological consequences to trying to bring to light something people don't want to hear.
And that's where folks like PirateNews, Jeff Rense, Alex Jones and the like come from, that is what creates them.
Hostility just feeds the cycle - not that PN doesn't get up my back here and there, but a little compassion could be warranted you know.
-Frem
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
3 things are confusing here ( and I'm not screaming 'conspiracy'! Just things that don't add up...
1. How'd the ME determine the wounds were made from " the long gun " ??
2. How'd the rifle end up in the trunk of the car ? Did he use it, put it away, then come back w/ just the hand guns ?
3. Why is there so much confusion as to the make of the rifle ?
Seems to me, on the last one, law enforcement would be competent enough to know what gun they had, and then simply report that to the media. How anyone could confuse something seemingly so straight forward ... is baffling.
I would think that the medical examiner could tell from the wounds. Now the video are we sure that is the Bushmaster rifle used or is it another gun? Are we even sure the news report got it right? I'm sure what you mean about confusion to the make of the rifle. The Bushmaster is a make of the AR-15.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
How'd the rifle end up in the trunk, if that's the weapon which was used, per the ME ?
The Bushmaster is a make of the AR-15. They're not the same gun, though, are they. There's lazy journalism or lazy police work. Not sure which. Minor detail, perhaps, but still...
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
How'd the rifle end up in the trunk, if that's the weapon which was used, per the ME ?
The Bushmaster is a make of the AR-15. They're not the same gun, though, are they. There's lazy journalism or lazy police work. Not sure which. Minor detail, perhaps, but still...
The M.E. would not determin the specific gun used. That would be ballistics experts.
Bushmaster is a Firearms company. They make an AR-15. Regrdless of who makes it, it is still an AR-15.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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Oh, the gun in the trunk was a shotgun.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Oh, the gun in the trunk was a shotgun.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
There never was an AR15 "assault rifle" anywhere near Sandy Hook school, which explains why no photos of video exists of any 223 shell casings, despite the school's brand new video security system.
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