Gender and Violence and Blame
POSTED BY: Magonsdaughter
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 25, 2026 20:14
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Hey Signy,
I look around and I see a world that isn't functioning for anybody any better than it is for anyone else. The triumphant guy at the top of the totem pole is a patriarchal myth. It's the engine that keeps the whole rat race going, Signy. Envy. You're buying into their frame and you think you're opposing it. You're feeding the myth. You're perpetuating the lie. Your point of view is crucial to that system's longevity. Perminent class warfare IS capitalism.
You think Donald Trump is a happy man? You think Dick Cheney knows a minute's peace in his life?
I see your conspiracy and call it a flaw in human nature. I call it cowardice and conformity. The de facto conspiracy of the fearful and the hopeless.
And I see that they are losing. Little by little, bit by bit, with every passing century the human race gets better. The trend over the course of history is not toward centralized power, but away from it.
And the internet has changed everything. We'll never be able to go back to the pre-information age. Knowledge is power and knowledge has NEVER been more available to more people, more cheaply, than it is today. And it's getting cheaper and more available all the time.
And the patriarchy, the rule of money and power and silence, can read the writing on the wall. They see their power slipping through their fingers with every reduction in the price of the iphone. So, they're going nuts with the multiple wars and the printing money and predatory behavior of every stripe, because they know better than anyone that their days as the Masters of the Earth are numbered.
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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HKC- people are dying in droves from all sorts of inequities and you think this is about envy???
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
HKC- people are dying in droves from all sorts of inequities, and you think this is about envy???.
Hello,
It seems much more about control.
You're tired of the control these entities exercise on our lives.
It's time you had the control, instead.
You already want to end broadcast television and cable services. How much control over my life will you need in order to free me from my prison?
--Anthony
Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.)
Context: http://tinyurl.com/d6ozfej
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
http://tinyurl.com/bdjgbpe
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Context: http://tinyurl.com/afve3r9
“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -T. S. Szasz
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TONY, you seem to be defending your right to be in prison. Well, if you want to be in prison there's nothing I can do about it. 
*gestures you inside*
Look, not trying to make you mad or anything but just think about where your train of thought ends, OK?
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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
I'm aware of that, M. And one or two or five examples doesn't change a dang thing, does it? What do you think is going on here?
A lot of software gets it start in some branch of military R&D, a lot of tech does, period. The internet itself started out as a military application. Does that mean we should get rid of our computers?
It's still a leap of some magnitude, I think, from there to a coordinated propaganda campaign that's destroying our culture and turning our youth into addicts. Are you onboard with Signy's analysis?
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
No, I don't believe that there was a co-ordinated campaign. I'm generally not a big conspiracy theorist. But I do believe that the impact of military style computer games and other violent games has an overall impact on the vast numbers of people who play them.
Signy is right about the way the brain gets conditioned, or perhaps I might use the term shaped, and this is particuarly true of the adolescent brain which changes dramatically in response to stimuli. So if you spend all day playing violent video games, the younger brain will be shaping how that person responds emotionally, behaviourally and cognitively to that stimuli.
While its clear that not everybody who play games becomes violent, its not clear about the full impact on people who play regularly.
I do think there is an increasing level of aggression in society and how we interact with one another. I know that teens, particularly teen and young males have always been the most likely to display this behaviour, but its becoming increasingly prevalent amongst many sectors of society.
What I can observe -
*aggressive behaviour on the roads - up to increased incidents of road rage, but may also include excessive speeding, shouting, guesturing, tail gating as punishment and risky behaviour generally
*use of aggressive heaviour to solve problems. My neighbours hate my dog. Have they ever come over and had a discussion? No, they shout and scream abuse and make threats through the fence. Incredibly, both are in their 60's.
*acceptance of violent and aggressive behaviour in relationships. Don't like what your partner has done, it seems that its perfectly acceptable to slap them or call them a cunt. What ever happened to rules of behaviour even when you argue or disagree? There doesn't seem to be any.
I could go on and on...
Okay. So what are the causes?
I've got some ideas, but I'll leave them for now.
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Hi Signe, I think your idea to get rid of TV and put it all online sucks, because my TV is easier for me to work than my computer. For the computer if you want to watch shows on it you always have to update the players and stuff, whereas with my TV I just turn it on, que presto. Your idea sounds totally lame to me and wayyyyyy inconvenient for me. And what about PBS? Surely you're not opposed to history documentaries and the BBC. Come on Signe, work with me here, though I don't really want to work with you on this because its a lame idea.
Who is more violent, men or women? I think that statistically men are more violent, in regards to how many violent incidents occur with them in them. But women can certainly be violent too, everyone is an individual and so everyone can be violent or not, but I think if we were to add up the violent incidents committed by men in a year and the violent incidents committed by women in a year we'd see that men win out. So I disagree with Byte here. But I do agree that women are fully capable of violence and I also agree that they are less often prosecuted for it.
I too hate that if we see a woman slap her boyfriend we assume that he deserved it, whereas when we see a man slap his girlfriend we assume he is a crummy person. We should have the same assumptions when we see domestic violence whether its a man or a woman. Neither is okay and neither should get excuses made.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
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Sig: Caste system in India is alive and well and so long as people look at lower castes of people as inhuman they're going to dish out inhumane treatment to them.
Russia's problem is there's always someone looking for opportunities. Twelve year old unattended in the mall? Grab her, someone will pay good money to pass her around with their buddies while she cries and screams and bleeds. Decade and a half later she'll still be caught in that system, won't remember her name, but she'll have a daughter from it all that they're grooming to succeed her. And that's when they don't go right into it from the orphanages.
You're not the only one who's angry Sig. It's all right to be angry. The trick is finding the right target to focus that anger.
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Yep, it was Morgan.
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Lewis Henry Morgan (November 21, 1818 – December 17, 1881) was a pioneering American anthropologist and social theorist who worked as a railroad lawyer. He is best known for his work on kinship and social structure, his theories of social evolution, and his ethnography of the Iroquois. Interested in what holds societies together, he proposed the concept that the earliest human domestic institution was the matrilineal clan, not the patriarchal family; the idea was accepted by most pre-historians and anthropologists throughout the late nineteenth century.
Also interested in what leads to social change, he was a contemporary of the European social theorists Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, who were influenced by reading his work on social structure and material culture, the influence of technology on progress. Morgan is the only American social theorist to be cited by such diverse scholars as Marx, Charles Darwin, and Sigmund Freud. Elected as a member of the National Academy of Sciences, Morgan served as president of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in 1879.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_H._Morgan
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Matrilineal: well it does make sense. The mother is the only side of the equation that usually isn't in question.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
TONY, you seem to be defending your right to be in prison. Well, if you want to be in prison there's nothing I can do about it.
Look, not trying to make you mad or anything but just think about where your train of thought ends, OK?
Hello,
The amount of control you wish to exercise in order to create a better world would just end up trading one prison for another.
--Anthony
Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.)
Context: http://tinyurl.com/d6ozfej
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
http://tinyurl.com/bdjgbpe
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Context: http://tinyurl.com/afve3r9
“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -T. S. Szasz
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