Your Favourite Joss project thus far...?
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Originally posted by Moose:
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Oh, wait. I forgot about Dollhouse. I just really couldn't get into to it. So I guess that gets third place.
Yeah Dollhouse is an interesting one and it does fall into the forgotten about category. It almost was great, but feels ill-conceived. Almost as though the ideas became to big for Joss and co to harness...? Who knows. Pity though because there were some great ideas in there.
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Originally posted by ecgordon:
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In descending order:
1. Firefly
2. Serenity
3. Angel
4. Buffy the Vampire Slayer
5. The Avengers
6. Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog
7. Dollhouse
EC may I ask, anything in particular about Angel that grabs you? Just curious?
Angel seems not to garner the same amount of discussion. Would be nice to shoot the breeze over it.
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Quote:Cabin in the Woods was on my list because it punched writers of crappy horror movies in the face. It might even discourage audiences from going to that kind of movie, which would be a public service. Inventing the 'secret' mythology behind horror movies, Joss attacked other writers for their shoddy methods of constructing a story.
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Cabin in the Woods.
I was a little disappointed with Cabin in the Woods. It had some great touches, but I was left feeling a little short changed...
The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two
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I like the darker tone of Angel. His search for redemption (while still acknowledging that he doesn't deserve it) is very compelling. I also think they did a better job of developing the secondary characters of Cordelia and Wesley than ever happened on Buffy. Plus...Fred! Amy Acker is brilliant.
I know I'll get some arguments on this, but the Angel series finale was the perfect ending. Since he was fighting for redemption, plus fighting against insurmountable odds, it makes sense that the fight would never be over. Leaving it hanging like that was genius.
I still love Buffy too, but it went on longer than it should. While I like parts of Seasons Six and Seven, it suffered through Four and would have been better if they had tightened up the narrative, eliminated The Initiative and Adam, the weakest Big Bad, and condensed several other elements.
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Fair enough EC.
I can see that, and really there was a quality with Angel that remand perhaps more consistent than Buffy, so it's understandable.
I thought Buffy when it hit it's highs was maybe of a higher level than when Angel did the same, but it's marginal for sure. I do think Angel introduced some very profound notions, that I really did like.
I wasn't a fan of how it ended, but I wouldn't argue against it necessarily, it was just not the approach I would have favoured, but it didn't render Angel any less complete.
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Originally posted by ecgordon:
I like the darker tone of Angel. His search for redemption (while still acknowledging that he doesn't deserve it) is very compelling. I also think they did a better job of developing the secondary characters of Cordelia and Wesley than ever happened on Buffy. Plus...Fred! Amy Acker is brilliant.
I know I'll get some arguments on this, but the Angel series finale was the perfect ending. Since he was fighting for redemption, plus fighting against insurmountable odds, it makes sense that the fight would never be over. Leaving it hanging like that was genius.
Amy was certainly a bright spot. I even loved how they worked Harmony back into the story... and , of course, Spike.
But yeah, the series finale, I truly enjoyed. Hated how somethings went, of course, but they were done in classic Joss and company style. Very powerful.
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I still love Buffy too, but it went on longer than it should. While I like parts of Seasons Six and Seven, it suffered through Four and would have been better if they had tightened up the narrative, eliminated The Initiative and Adam, the weakest Big Bad, and condensed several other elements.
Agreed. Basically, if you got 7 seasons, w/the sorts of situations the Scoobies faced, you're gonna have a few thin spots. They took a real risk w/ Dawn, of course, but over all, I'm glad I took the time to watch the whole series, start to finish.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Originally posted by TWO:
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Cabin in the Woods was on my list because it punched writers of crappy horror movies in the face. It might even discourage audiences from going to that kind of movie, which would be a public service. Inventing the 'secret' mythology behind horror movies, Joss attacked other writers for their shoddy methods of constructing a story.
Yes, but then I felt it then went on to have it's cake and eat it. Granted it was always with a knowing wink and tongue firmly in it's cheek, but that also wound me up, much like the Scream series of films did.
I was actually hopping for a more serious approach to the genre, rather than just poking fun at it, which is a little bit like hitting a bullseye the size of a buick!
Still I didn't dislike it. I think my expectations were off.
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loved the two guys in the viewing headquarters. That was ace and those two were wonderfully subversive... I almost wish the film had been from their viewpoint looking on through-out, and then the dread would set in as the 'teens/victims' worked their way towards discovering them.
But it's by no means a bad flick.
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Firefly (and Serenity) followed by Doll House (great cast) and Avengers. Seen all the rest and it was OK but not as riveting as the three named items.
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Hands down - Firefly, top of the heap.
I'm one of the folk who really didn't care for Serenity, as it takes the story in a direction which no longer interested me, and discarded a lot of the better storytelling options by tying them off.
Runner up is absolutely The Avengers, I was impressed and that ain't easy, especially with typical overhyped hollywood drivel these days, not only did I leave my hermitage to go see it (SOOO worth it.) I paid freakin retail for the DVD, which sits on the place-of-honor shelf.
The rest of it, meh.
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This is not as easy as people may think:
TV:
Firefly, of course
Buffy
Movies:
Serenity
Avengers
Dr. Horrible is a unique case, but it is among my fav Joss projects. Both the characters and the music are awesome.
SGG
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