The "assault weapon" ban is dead!
POSTED BY: JCKnife
UPDATED: Monday, September 20, 2004 20:25
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can anyone give me a good reason why you need a bayonet? Expecting the red coats to come back again are we?
- grenade launchers if the grenades are illegal?
Honestly, its issues like this that make me think Michael Moore isn't a dick.
Good one! But, I think grenade launchers and bayonets make a gun look significantly cooler, but don't really add to it's killing potential. I personally think this gun stuff might be a good state-by-state issue. That way, murder-prone cities like DC can strenghten restrictions while other areas can relax them. If people whine, they're free to move.
Of course, if you want self defense, there are a lot of nice stungun and pepper spray options, which can painfully incapacitate home invaders.
I also think that tons of armed civilians who can become guerillas are a very effective invasion deterent. Saddam handed out tons of Kalishnakovs before we smited him. Our troops are still paying the price. No matter how much we argue, a stungun still can't hurt a helicopter.
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Originally posted by gojiro:
The most effective argument I've ever heard againt gun laws is also the shortest:
Outlaw guns, and only the outlaws will have guns.
The only gun law I would like to see is one requiring gun owners to take a safety course, like we do for driver's licensing. Just one course in their life. I've seen too many stupid people who own guns.
BTW, last Friday, I became a criminal when a friend gave me a 13 round clip for my Sig P228. It was pre-ban, but still. Tomorrow I won't be a criminal. That seem right to you?
gojiro
How about this one?; Do you think September 11th would have gone down the same way if the passengers on the planes had been allowed to carry personal protection firearms?
I'm not saying everything would have been hunky dory, but I guarantee you things would not have gone down the way they did.
News flash: The police and the government are not responsible for protecting you, the courts have already decided this. So, who does that leave to defend you? If you said you, then you're right. The sunsetting of this ridiculous, do nothing, piece of legislation has merely given law abiding citizens more freedom to choose the tools to do so.
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Originally posted by ByteTheBullet:
Well, after a long awaited 10 years, the ban is officially dead!
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Fantastic. Now I can go out and get that rapid assault weapon with the funky stock to defend my property, because that hand gun was just making the Bloods and the Crips laugh at me.
Fair enough, I come from a country where our police still have to shout "Stop!... Or I'lll shout stop again!" (thenk yew Mr Hicks), but...
can anyone give me a good reason why you need a bayonet? Expecting the red coats to come back again are we?
- grenade launchers if the grenades are illegal?
Honestly, its issues like this that make me think Michael Moore isn't a dick.
"I threw up on your bed"
Good reason for a bayonet? Because it's more satisfactory to stab your mom in the face with the knife at the end of my rifle before I shoot her.
In all reality? Why do we need a good reason to put a bayonet on a gun?
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Originally posted by Daikath:
Guns dont kill poeple. Kids who play videogames kill poeple.
I really, really, really hope you aren't serious about this.
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No 
, just a sarcastic remark about the media frenzy, but that is another topic ;).
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Originally posted by Geezer:
If you made all guns in private hands in the US disappear overnight, the "gun" crime would go down temporarily, until the guys that now run drugs saw a whole new market segment open up. I'd guess that armed robbery (a guy with a knife or club is still armed), assault, rape and burglary would go through the roof.
Where's the long term market value in an illegal gun? Its not addictive (scratch that, I've seen that documentary on the gun club that fires about as many rounds as got fired in the first Gulf War at a weekend).
The crime stats in countries where guns are outlawed don't have crime stats through the roof - do you have any evidence of a country that banned gun ownership where the crime stats you have quote went through the roof.
"I threw up on your bed"
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Originally posted by ByteTheBullet:
These rights were guaranteed to me by the blood of my forefathers. That is the part that most people just don't understand. We(Americans) had to fight and die for the freedoms we take for granted today.
I forgot, the British didn't fight and die for the freedoms that we (humans) take for granted these days.
Just because its old, doesn't mean its always good or right.
"Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."
People died for that part of the US Constitution to be enacted. As long as we're talking history lessons I mean.
"I threw up on your bed"
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Of course people like Dianne Feinstein(ever heard of her?) have to pull to get around those laws. Hmmm, did you know that? I would be surprised if you did. She must be above the law, right?
I'm not sure the point you're making - you're right I don't know her. Having checked her website and the tone of your comment I'm assuming there was some scandal about her owning or having a gun when she appears to be vehemently anti-gun.
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Hey, where did that big bloody bank robbery with fully automatic weapons take place? Oh yeah, California. The bad guys had wepons that the general public could not even get. Does that seem right to you?(sorry, firefly quote)
Actually it seems very right to me. When a bank robbery goes down, I don't want a have a go hero trying to take the robbers out and making things ten times worse, or hitting an innocent bystander. I want the police to attend with the weaponry and the training to deal with the situation.
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Edited to add: Yeah, Columbine would have been different without illegally obtained weapons(they were thieves too, they STOLE the guns). They would have probably worked harder to make sure all the bombs they made exploded like they were supposed to.
Were they stolen? I thought they were legally obtained by the girlfriend of one of them and then given to them. They also had phone calls to the home of one of them from a gun dealer saying that his (Eric's) clips were ready. I'm taking my information from The Sunday Times and AP on those points.
"I threw up on your bed"
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Well, I read all your replies, but they seem to move away from the topic.
Never having had the rights to own almost any kind of gun you wanted I can understand why you're not getting it. No worries. Just don't let the voices misguide you because there is always at least two sides to the story. Asking questions and research will allow you(everyone, including myself) to make better, more informed decisions. Oh, yeah, they are magazines, not clips. There are only a few guns that use clips.
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Factcheck.org already has an item about how Sen. Kerry's favorite 527 PAC is (to quote some of the ultra-liberals around here) "spewing lies" about the end of the ban.
"This latest ad from Moveon PAC is about as misleading as it can be. Through words, graphics and sound effects, it invites viewers to think that the expiration of the ban on 19 semiautomatic assault weapons will allow people legally to buy fully automatic machine guns that can fire "up to 300 rounds per minute." That's false."
http://factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=258
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