Hayden Christensen now appears at the end of Return of The Jedi. Yikes!!!
POSTED BY: outlander
UPDATED: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 20:07
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http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews3/starwarschanges02.html
I'm not the worlds biggest Star Wars Fan, but for all the people out there that love the original Trilogy but hate the new Trilogy you could only describe this as blasphemy. Let the shit storm begin.
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WOW i have not posted here in soooooo long.
Oh yeh I tell you what dude. It is blasphemy. But my view is kinda double sided.
On the one hand yeh they're George's movies, they're his property yada yada yada.
What he hasn't got a right to do is change these things and then not offer us, the people that have made him utterly rich before these new movies, the actual ORIGNAL trilogy (the true Filmic Cuts). By releasing these and not saying boo about releasing the origianl filmic cuts he's basically giving his true fans the finger and saying take it or leave it.
There are more such horrible changes, king of which for me is the altering of Boba Fett's voice to Jango Fett's (clone's) voice
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I'm not one of those people that nescessarily hates the Special Editions or the new movies either (although no where near the genius of the original trilogy, Attack of the Clones was entertaining and in any case a step in the right direction AWAY from the tragedy of Phantom Menace).
I am a pretty avid fan of Star Wars. But this is less of a Star Wars fan talking than a lover of Film that hates to see Classics (and they are classics) like the origianl Star Wars trilogy being butchered and altered and not offered to us in their original state. In the end Lucas has already been doing what he wants so there's no stopping him there, but I wouldn't really care about the changes if he just offered the Filmic Cuts in a seperate DVD package.
However don't jump all over him just yet. I'd say voice your concerns but there is always the chance he will release the filmic cuts at a later stage.
If you do want to help make sure this happens might I suggest visiting:
http://www.originaltrilogy.com/
and signing your name on the petition.
As I await this particular DVD package's release in Australia I am extremely conflicted as to whether to give Lucas my money or not. On the one hand the movies are altered, but on the other hand I should really see them in order to speak of them further, and there are many extra's concerning the production of the original films etc. Im interested to see what others will do in this situation.
By the way I'm intrigued, (or confused) by the fact that there is presented here a YOUNG Anakin Skywalker and yet there is an OLD Yoda and OLD Obi Wan Kenobi.
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I agree. Let Lucas have his digital playtime, but give the people a choice. I mean, what is there to lose by doing that? Many fans would buy both sets and Lucas would get twice the money. Worst case scenario: only the original trilogy is s bought and the New Special Edition is jettisoned into space.
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By the way I'm intrigued, (or confused) by the fact that there is presented here a YOUNG Anakin Skywalker and yet there is an OLD Yoda and OLD Obi Wan Kenobi.
I think this is Lucas' way of saying "this is the ghost of when Anakin truly died and became Vader." But who knows.
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George Lucas is off his rocker.
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I think this is Lucas' way of saying "this is the ghost of when Anakin truly died and became Vader." But who knows.
Nothing personal against you, Paladin, you're prolly right. But this is the kind of dumbed-down schematic absurdity that drives me crazy. So, there was no redemption for Anakin at the end when he sacrificed himself to save his son's life? Or, because he did find redemption, God let him appear as his "young, beautiful" self after death?
These "spirits" are appearing to Luke Skywalker who never even saw his father like that. So, there's Luke at the end of RotJ and he's like, "Wow, cool, there's Yoda, man, and Obi-wan--excellent--and, and...who the 
is that?"Edit: While you're at it, George, get rid of that old fossil Guiness and put in Ewan Macgreggor!
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The DVD's aren't actually out yet, so I sure hope this is all a hoax. Much like the early "Episode II" trailers that featured Christopher Walken, or whatever.
If this is true, then sure, Lucas is nuts. He's making changes just to make them, when it all makes much more logical sense that a) Anakin would appear as a ghost AT THE AGE AT WHICH HE DIED (like, say, Obi-Wan), and b) GREEDO NEVER SHOOTS, DAMMIT!!!
This is too upsetting. Joss would never do this.
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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
So there's Luke at the end of RotJ and he's like, "Wow, cool, there's Yoda, man, and Obi-wan--excellent--and, and...who the
ROFLMMFAO
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The DVD's aren't actually out yet, so I sure hope this is all a hoax.
Just because DVDs aren't available to the general public doesn't mean that reviewers can't get them early. That being said, The Digital Bits is also a very reliable source of information.
Read their review. Buy the ticket, take the ride.
Now, personally, I have come to terms with these changes. I whole-heartedly support the restorative work they've reportedly done on these films, such as painstakingly removing imperfections from the negatives (dust, dirt, scratches, etc), removing matte lines and boxes, and other minor cosmetic changes.
I am a bit more troubled by the more major changes, but, I can live with them. The Han/Greedo scene, while not being restored to its original glory, has been changed to at least being bearable (according to TDB: "The Han/Greedo fight is still less than perfect, but it does look more natural. Han's head doesn't jerk like it did before - instead his whole upper body shifts over slightly. And the blaster shots are VERY close together now, so the encounter is not as implausible as it was in 1997"), and that is at least acceptable.
And, yes, Hayden Christiansen is seen as the ghost at the very end, but, I just thank God that George didn't try to replace him in the unmasking of Vader. I shudder at the thought.
But, in the end, I am willing to overlook these minor disturbances in the Force in exchange for being able to own these films on DVD. I am probably going to the special hell for it, but I am looking forward to owning these films looking as good as they ever have.
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Amen. I am going to buy the trilogy because we wants it precious. And all you other geeks can whine and deny all you like, but YOU'RE ALL GOING TO BUY IT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T NOT!!!! So quit yer bitchin' and move on. No sense in whining about something you can't do anything about.
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"You can't not." The hype continues.
I already bought this trilogy twice-- individually on VHS (which I have since given away), then again in their original versions as a box set. I do not own the Special Editions, I am not going to buy a new box set EVERY TIME Lucas decides to release a new one. Oh, THIS one is the Special Edition. Oh, THIS one is widescreen!! Oh, THIS one has 38% more wookiee!
I don't care. I have the movie, George can screw with it all he wants, the original version that I love is in my possession, that THAT one is "The Precious." If I must ever purchase them again, I'll wait for all 6 movies in a box set.
On the other hand, that means owning something with Jar Jar on it. So, on second thought......
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Yawn much. So, ok, why not go the full whack and make Obi-Wan young as well and put Ewan McGregor in at the end. Ugh, he has RUINED the films for me, totally now. They were my favourite films of all time, because of all the links to my younger years and a whole host of other movies, and billions of other things that are based on them, that came from them, but not now. Lord of The Rings movies are my favourite now. They are perfect and wont be changed ten times in the future by a weird bloke.
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