Presidential Debate

Romney won the debate in a big way, bit it doesn't really matter at all in the end. I remember when Kerry beat incumbent Bush in their first debate because Bush looked tired, un-prepared, and annoyed to have to even be there. So it was with Obama tonite, but bet he'll be better in the next two debates. All would be swell for me and my fellow Conservatives had this been in another decade of time. But as the country is now we may win parts of Congress once in a while, but the Presidency is something that is gone forever for Republicans.











Hmmm, better than Reuben's.
..One more.
Ben!
..My last one.
Okay.

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As to the debates tonight:

The bar for Romney's performance was set so low that as long as he didn't show up with his pants on backwards and his shoes on his head, it could be counted a "win." On that level, he won, despite dodging any answers of substance and looking as though he'd been popping Ritalin all day.

On the level of anything resembling substance, Obama won on points -- but he did look tired, which the sort of voters who confuse Federal elections with "Dancing With the Stars" might let sway them.

I found it rather amusing when Obama asked why Mitt wasn't giving any details about what he'd replace Obamacare with -- "Is it too wonderful? Is the secret just too wonderful to share?" Priceless.

I came away with the impression that Romney's answer to everything is "Let the states handle it", along with "I have a plan that will work because it's a plan that will work, never mind the details, just trust me." He came across to me as a used-car salesman who'd had one too many cups of espresso that morning . . .

To sum up, Romney didn't shoot himself in the foot tonight, which on the "lowered expectations scale" probably counts as at least a tie. He'll need to do better in the next two if he expects to get off the corner of 47th & Bain, though.

"If you are part of a society that votes, then do so. There may be no candidates and no measures you want to vote for...but there are certain to be ones you want to vote against. In case of doubt, vote against. By this rule you will rarely go wrong. If this is too blind for your taste, consult some well-meaning fool (there is always one around) and ask his advice. Then vote the other way."-- Lazarus Long

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Mitt Romney finally shook the etch-a-sketch tonight and moved to the center. The problem with the move is it's inconsistent with things he's committed himself to previously. Obama wasn't crisp at pointing this out -- going for the capillaries, not Romney's jugular vein.

It's interesting that conservatives who think they don't want Mitt to pivot to the center are clearly elated when he did it and it worked. Romney repeatedly noted that he agreed with Obama on various issues and repeatedly took rhetorically moderate positions. For example: "Regulation is essential. You can’t have a free market work if you don’t have regulation." You sure wouldn't have heard him say that during one of the primary debates.

Romney succeeded in portraying himself as someone who's considerably less conservative than the Mitt Romney who we've seen a lot of over the past 18 months. Whichever Romney shows up in the White House in 2013 if he wins in November, the guy we saw tonight is a much more appealing figure than the guy who was on the trail all summer.

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Mormons don't drink beer or sugary sodas, but apparently there is no shortage of whoop-ass and Romney opened a whole case tonight.

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Technically the soda thing changed. The church elders came out just this year and finally said that the line long interpreted as a condemnation of caffeine in general really just applied to hot coffee.

Besides it's not like they didn't just ignore it and drink soda and eat chocolate and drink hot drinks before now anyway.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I didn't watch, I only caught the last 10 minutes so on the radio. But Romney made a lot of promises and sounded confident, and Obama said "uh" a few hundred times. I wondered what was wrong with him; he's usually much quicker on his feet. Anyway, I give this one to Romney in appealing to the undecideds. What do YOU think?

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Clearly, the in-the-tank-for-the-left MSM have all graded this one a huge win for Obama. i mean, they have to, being in the tank for him and all...


Right?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Even the leftist media can't spin this one hard enough. Even Ed Schultz and Rachel Maddow can barely choke out the words to call it a draw. (HAH!) Some draw. The best grade I've seen for Obama is from ABC, 42% think he won the debates (Gosh, that's awfully close to the 47% figure, isn't it?) They must have only been polling blue koolaid drinkers and STILL couldn't pull out a tie!

Obama got Mittslapped. Watch the debate again and notice how red his ears get. He really doesn't like having to go without his teleprompter. He had more talking time than Romney and squandered it on Uhs and Ums before segueing into a story about his grandmother.

As Dennis Miller said, "Obama got owned, refinanced and owned again."

Next we have Captain Math going up against Captain Kangaroo. I can't wait to see the comedy when Smilin' Joe Biden gets away from his handlers. I expect Ryan to vigorously apply the crowbar of truth and logic to Biden's head.


Kwindbago, hot air and angry electrons

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I'll give it to him - Romney owned that stage last night. He was totally on his game, while Obama seemed like he he wished he were anywhere but there.

If I hadn't already heard Romney change positions regularly on everything, Id be impressed, possibly even in his camp. But alas, I know he was doing what he always does, and saying what people want to hear, so he hardly swayed me any.

I also don't think Ive ever seen a less effective moderator.

We shall see if this has any lasting impact on the campaign. Things have tightened nationally, but electorally - Obama still has a pretty strong lead. And he will very likely go into the next debate with a bit more passion and clarity.


Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum


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