The white working class and Obama
POSTED BY: kpo
UPDATED: Friday, September 28, 2012 04:47
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Originally posted by Geezer:
Also note that although you mention that "Us liberals/ progressives/ left-ish people are grown-up enough to heap all sorts of criticism on Obama...", I don't see many threads originated by you "liberals/ progressives/ left-ish people" that actually do that. Sometimes when someone else mentions, say, drone strikes, a few folks will agree that, yes, that's kind'a bad, but seldom see you, for example, call out Obama on something. And certainly nothing like the criticism heaped on Romney.
Funny, but when I've pointed out that you never criticize anyone on the right, your standard response has always been along the lines of "I don't need to, because that's what you all are for." (Not a direct quote, but a paraphrasing.)
So if I don't start a dozen threads a day criticizing Obama, I can rest assured that you and the rest of the right-wingnuts around here will cover it for me.
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero
Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"
Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."
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Geezer,
Really? REALLY?
Have you read none of the criticism we've directed at Obama? All the repeated, pointed, topical and FACTUAL criticism has dissolved in your mind like so much cotton candy?
What shall I attribute that to? Poor eyesight? Blind partisanship? Alzheimer's? Intentional misrepresentation of what you know to be true?
You tell me.
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After the twisty-turning geezer did defending Mittney's "airplane window" idiocy (among other recent threads), there's not a soul in the world who'd ever believe this doof is anything like a neutral party. It is a bit fascinating to watch him try to make the claim, kind of like watching Faux say they are so very "fair and balanced". Or like watching a naked emperor walk down the street as if he's got velvet clothes covering his ugly, flabby body.
Geezer, honey, everyone knows. We are not blind. You're fooling no one but yourself, which makes you nothing but a fool of your own making. Honestly, I'm a little embarrassed for you.
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S'funny...
Mind you I make no bones about partisanship, but I ain't *defending* no one, especially not that gutless pissant Obama.
Rather, I have a full foaming rage on at a pack of feckless curs who have come out not only in opposition to everything humane and decent in this world, but to everything that ever made civilization, and specifically this country, worth the freakin bother.
I think I will add to my villainous purge to-do list, lopping off the thumbs of their enablers and supporters and chucking them in a reserve limited to stone age conditions - s'what they WANT, is it not ?
-F
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Have you read none of the criticism we've directed at Obama?
It doesn't count unless you start threads specifically devoted to it, apparently.
My take on the whole Geezer political allegiance question, is that he can be a 'centrist' if he wants to. One thing he's not though is impartial, and balanced. He may not identify republican, but like your typical right-winger he has a very strong anti-liberal bias, and so holds the two sides to two different standards (see his response to Kiki above), and uses equivalence to excuse the side he hates less. Maybe that's what it takes to stay a 'centrist' these days.
It's not personal. It's just war.
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The article refers specifically to "white working people".
No, and this is important: it refers specifically to the white workings class in most of the country. In other words, 'not including the South'. Why else do you think the words 'In most of the country' are there? Those graphs of the four regions together make up the whole of the geographical USA. The article states clearly that Obama is 'doing just fine' IF you take away the numbers from the South poll. Why you are attempting to refute this by repeatedly INCLUDING the numbers from the South poll is beyond me. That's staggering illogicality.
It's not personal. It's just war.
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Originally posted by kpo:
No, and this is important: it refers specifically to the white workings class in most of the country. In other words, 'not including the South'. Why else do you think the words 'In most of the country' are there? Those graphs of the four regions together make up the whole of the geographical USA. The article states clearly that Obama is 'doing just fine' IF you take away the numbers from the South poll. Why you are attempting to refute this by repeatedly INCLUDING the numbers from the South poll is beyond me. That's staggering illogicality.
Is Obama only president for certain geographical regions of the country?
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Cue BDN to pose a completely nonsensical question that makes it clear he didn't bother to read the thread...
Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.
"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum
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Is Obama only president for certain geographical regions of the country?
No, hence the article saying he has 'a huge Southern problem'. But since the Southern poll is so glaringly different to the rest of the country one might legitimately ask if that's down to anything Obama has done, or whether it may simply be a reflection of certain biases and prejudices in that particular part of the country.
It's not personal. It's just war.
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Originally posted by kpo:Quote:
Is Obama only president for certain geographical regions of the country?
No, hence the article saying he has 'a huge Southern problem'. But since the Southern poll is so glaringly different to the rest of the country one might legitimately ask if that's down to anything Obama has done, or whether it may simply be a reflection of certain biases and prejudices in that particular part of the country.
So if you discount the unfavorable data, regardless of reason, you achieve the result you want. Is that about right?
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