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Romney's 47% gaffe not the same as Obama's guns/religion gaffe

POSTED BY: kpo
UPDATED: Friday, September 21, 2012 01:05
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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:15 PM

Okay, this is a real joke. The great majority of folks who do not file income tax (but pay all kinds of other taxes, state and federal) because of the Earned Income Tax Credit, touted by none other than The Gip himself, are from red states.

http://www.businessinsider.com/mitt-romney-47-percent-no-income-tax-ma
p-red-republican-states-2012-9


If Obama had a lock on all the votes of the poorest 47% of Americans, Romney would have no chance in hell. But because poor conservatives routinely vote against their economic interests, we are obliged to listen to Romney dig himself deeper and deeper into political obsolesence.

Now, my conservative friends know what it was like when we on the left had nothing but John Kerry to stem the tide of Republican domination. Good times.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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KPO
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:46 PM

See, Kwicko, when you deliver quick, knockout blows to Auraptor like that it's much better than spending a whole thread toying with him! Put him out of his misery quickly, for all of our sakes.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
See, Kwicko, when you deliver quick, knockout blows to Auraptor like that it's much better than spending a whole thread toying with him! Put him out of his misery quickly, for all of our sakes.

It's not personal. It's just war.



Hey, now! Some of us like watching the moron flail about.

But it was an effective "fuck you" to the (thankfully shrinking in these parts) right-wing zealot contingent.


Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum


"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:49 PM

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Okay, this is a real joke. The great majority of folks who do not file income tax (but pay all kinds of other taxes, state and federal) because of the Earned Income Tax Credit, touted by none other than The Gip himself, are from red states.

http://www.businessinsider.com/mitt-romney-47-percent-no-income-tax-ma
p-red-republican-states-2012-9


If Obama had a lock on all the votes of the poorest 47% of Americans, Romney would have no chance in hell. But because poor conservatives routinely vote against their economic interests, we are obliged to listen to Romney dig himself deeper and deeper into political obsolesence.

Now, my conservative friends know what it was like when we on the left had nothing but John Kerry to stem the tide of Republican domination. Good times.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.




Hopefully this map will show up...




Eight of the top ten states where the most people pay no federal income tax are RED STATES. Seems calling them lazy moochers is a shabby way to ask for their votes.

If Romney keeps imploding, he may well lose the election. By about forty-seven percent. [/snark]



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:40 PM

Hey there guys,

Let me take a crack at it.

In his "speech" Romney does eventually say that he's going after those undecided, undeclared independent voters that make up about 5-6% of the country (his numbers). On that we are clear. Now, had he left it there - no problem. But he gets Foot-in-mouth disease and says what he says about the 47% of Americans - you know, those pesky freeloaders who don't pay taxes, who by the way, a great many are from the Greatest Generation - those folks who both he and his father owe their cushy lives to - the folks who fought the greatest menace, The Nazis. Those are part of the 47%.

Also too, families who actually work for a living, but who rightfully and lawfully pay no taxes because of the way the Tax code is written. A fellow once told me that we should pay our fair share in taxes, but that we should take advantage of every allowable tax break/credit. So, a family of five making $50K a year would pay no tax, if they take advantage of all the tax breaks, etc. Sorry Mitt, these guys have jobs - whoooops!!! you just insulted hard working Americans (both Dems and Repubs) that are NOT holding out their hands to the Government. There goes that theory. Say bye-bye to those votes. Then there's the elderly, who don't pay income tax on there social security checks. Bye-bye!!!
Then there's students - Bye-bye!!! And so on. Oh, it gets better.

Then he says if he were latino, well, that in itself is an insult. Here's a man who has millions, no hundreds of millions in several off-shore accounts and he's crying - boo hoo, I can't catch a break, if only my skin were brown, boo hoo! Believe me Mitt, we don't want you. You're a sorry excuse of a human being. What a racist! To be clear, he's saying that latinos get all the breaks in this country - REALLY!!! News to me. But what's really happening is that this country is becoming more of a melting pot every day, and he's scared shitless. He doesn't have a clue how to conduct himself humanwise. He even insulted his own wife - what a douche! And this is the best you got!? McCain at least served his country. All Romney does is milk people, and this country, dry.

Let's talk handouts. Romneycare in Mass - first, he reached across the aisle and was endorsed by the Kennedys regarding the Health Reform law. But how was it financed? Good question! By the Federal government, that's how...............

"Massachusetts got the federal government to pick up the lion's share of the cost. MA health reform would have been impossible without the Administration of President George W. Bush playing Sugar Daddy."

http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/health/health_stew/2012/08/romneycare_
vs_obamacare_which.html


Wait a sec! Isn't he running his campaign on the premise that government is too darn big, freeloaders, entitled to handouts, etc. Doesn't that fly in the face of his criticism of Obama and Dems spending too much and adding to the national debt? Hmmmmmm..........it makes you think, don't it? Could someone explain to me what has changed between now and 2006 when he championed Health Reform in his state? Why is he so dead-set against the Affordable Care Act? By the way, the article posted above is interesting and gives a good overall briefing on the 2 health care reform.

P.S. Romney must be in excellent shape these days, because he's sure doing an awful lot of back pedaling.......


SGG - Proud Member of the 47%

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Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:15 AM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:


Then he says if he were latino, well, that in itself is an insult. Here's a man who has millions, no hundreds of millions in several off-shore accounts and he's crying - boo hoo, I can't catch a break, if only my skin were brown, boo hoo! Believe me Mitt, we don't want you. You're a sorry excuse of a human being. What a racist! To be clear, he's saying that latinos get all the breaks in this country - REALLY!!! News to me.




I think he's trying to say that voters would really flock to him as a presidential candidate if he looked more latino, or if he were Hispanic. Because, you know, if there's one thing you need to know about this country, it's that there's no way we'd ever elect 43 wealthy white guys to the top office. We're known around the world for the incredible diversity of our leadership.

BTW, welcome back, SGG - loved every bit of your post!




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:40 AM




Ahem...







"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:59 AM

What I love about this whole thing is the unstated assumption by Romney -- and of the Right Wing blogger who pulled the quoted "47 Percent" figure more or less out of his ass in the first place -- that "Does not owe Federal tax" is the same as "Is a welfare queen." That "Earns too little to owe Income Tax" or "Belongs to an exempted group" (such as any member of our armed forces serving in a combat zone), is semantically identical to "Parasite on Real Americans".

My son, a good family man, who used to work in construction until the economy tanked, recently managed to get a job working for a local charity after some years on various forms of relief -- it's hard, low-paying work, and it's damned hard to make ends meet. Harder than it was when he was on the dole. But he's still slogging out there, every week. And I'm damned proud of him.

And if Mr. Romney wants to imply that my son is less of an American than his $50,000-a-plate buddies, he knows what he can kiss, and when.



If you are part of a society that votes, then do so. There may be no candidates and no measures you want to vote for...but there are certain to be ones you want to vote against. In case of doubt, vote against. -- Lazarus Long

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Thursday, September 20, 2012 7:59 AM

Thanks Kwix, good to be back.

Hey I just thought of a catchy name for his Hispanic campaign - El Gran Tortilla.
Ok, don't you wanna know why!?
Because he flip flops so much..........lol..........I kill me.

Maybe this is why SNL never called me back......chortled, snort........ha ha.

Seriously, too many people of color were reaching the American dream. Romney and his $50K a plate buddies want to be the only ones to play with their toys. Once Obama wedged his way to the top (despite furious attempts to derail his journey), the elite class went to DefCon 4. He cannot keep up with his lies. Seriously, he needs a new type of bike - the faster he pedals forward, the faster he goes backwards.

SGG

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Thursday, September 20, 2012 8:28 AM

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Originally posted by RocketJock:
If you are part of a society that votes, then do so. There may be no candidates and no measures you want to vote for...but there are certain to be ones you want to vote against. In case of doubt, vote against. -- Lazarus Long


All well said, RJ - I am highlighting this quote cause as an Anarchist I take some level of crap for supposedly "endorsing the system", although my use of a vote is as a form of condemnation rather than support, as expressed above, in combination with the desperation measure of incidently putting less competent (and therefore less dangerous to me) morons at the levers that control the world, or that people THINK, often BELIEVE, control the world, rather...

It isn't even that I think it'll make that much difference, so much as I want my voice heard, even if faintly, even if ignored, I feel a moral imperative to offer warning *before* escalating to less pleasant measures, even if that warning goes unnoticed.

For mine own conscience, such as it is, you understand ?

-Frem

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