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Authenticity of Bush Guard memos questioned

POSTED BY: Geezer
UPDATED: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 06:30
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Friday, September 10, 2004 4:22 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Questions are being raised about the authenticity of newly unearthed memos which asserted that George W. Bush ignored an order from a superior officer in the Texas Air National Guard and lost his status as a pilot because he failed to meet military performance standards and undergo a required physical exam.

Here's the link to CNNs posting of the AP story.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/10/bush.guard.ap/index.html

Looks like neither side is above a little knavery relating to ancient history.



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Friday, September 10, 2004 5:12 PM

Kerry's campaign OBVIOUSLY had nothing to do with this.. har har wink wink LOL. Terry McAuliffe had to come running out with drool and spittle running down his chin to condemn Bush about this and John Edwards demanded Bush explain these. Now they've most likely got to backtrack quickly , it's hilarious LOL.

McAuliffe : "Gor'am it, why did you use Microsoft Word you TWIT?!!! I'm surrounded by Tards!!!!!!!!

DNC Stoolie : Sorry Sir *sniffle, I couldn't find a REAL typewriter. *sniffle

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Friday, September 10, 2004 5:29 PM

Could we please wait until after basic fact is beyond question before we string out the baseless accusations?

Oh, right, Republicans don't do that.

The CBS News desk is the one that produced these memos - they are the ones to keep eyes on if we want to know where they actually came from. So far, they have been reluctant to say, other than citing one source and claiming the memos were verified independently (and not saying by whom). Wait until that's uncovered, and if it turns out true, shit on Kerry all you like.

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Friday, September 10, 2004 6:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Radhil:
Could we please wait until after basic fact is beyond question before we string out the baseless accusations?

Oh, right, Republicans don't do that.

The CBS News desk is the one that produced these memos - they are the ones to keep eyes on if we want to know where they actually came from. So far, they have been reluctant to say, other than citing one source and claiming the memos were verified independently (and not saying by whom). Wait until that's uncovered, and if it turns out true, shit on Kerry all you like.

Radhil Trebors
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Because I find this funny..I get labeled a Republican ROFLMAO.

Terry McAuliffe is already blaming Carl Rove for the forgeries. It's hilarious. Talk about baseless accusations.

So far 2 seperate independent experts have deemed them forgeries. One has even replicated one of the documents using Microsoft word. All the while, CBS is in secret meetings to figure out how to save Dan Rathers reputation. This is almost as good as..well.. Cable.

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Friday, September 10, 2004 6:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Radhil:
Could we please wait until after basic fact is beyond question before we string out the baseless accusations?

Oh, right, Republicans don't do that.

The CBS News desk is the one that produced these memos - they are the ones to keep eyes on if we want to know where they actually came from. So far, they have been reluctant to say, other than citing one source and claiming the memos were verified independently (and not saying by whom). Wait until that's uncovered, and if it turns out true, shit on Kerry all you like.

Radhil Trebors
Persona Under Construction



OK, to be fair and balanced Here's the CBS take on it.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/06/politics/main641481.shtml

They of course stand by their story, but also use the AP release almost verbatim. There are also links to the documents on this page. I do wish CBS had said where they obtained the memos.

I've been trying to research whether typewriters with reduced size superscript were available in 1972, but Google has let me down, for once. I don't recall any of the one's I used in the Army in 1972 as having that feature, but maybe the Air National Guard had better equipment.

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Friday, September 10, 2004 7:05 PM

I wonder if they actually used "The Source" of these memos as the independent expert on the authenticity ROFLMAO.

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Friday, September 10, 2004 7:08 PM

The fact that the White House has no problem censoring the public record, a federal offence, says a lot.

It's been well known for years that during the Vietnam War (oh sorry, the Vietnam Conflict, Americas other illegal war of death and murder) GWB was a drunken, drugged out, daddies boy and a general little shit who dodged the draft simply by being one of Americas elite.

It's public record... or it was.

To offset these facts the Republican Camp actually made ads attacking the Democrate Kerry, who has a crystal clear combat record and service.

While other Americans were being drafted into death patrols, GWB was at a party... drunk and stoned.

Your president... a liar, a cheat, a killer, and drunk.

Nice thread... shows I'm right about you little...

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Friday, September 10, 2004 7:11 PM

"Nuclear Weapons Found in Iraq"

Typical of right-wingers. Jumping all over something before the facts. But then, facts really don't seem to matter even afterwards either.

It doesn't matter that ObL is still at large, that no WMD were ever found, that Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9-11 and was not a security threat to the USA, that the tax cuts really only "stimuated" the ultra-wealthy and that the deficit is ballooning out of sight... these guys just keep listening to that happy music in their heads and then wonder what the h*ll happened when reality bites.

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Friday, September 10, 2004 7:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ghoulman:
The fact that the White House has no problem censoring the public record, a federal offence, says a lot.

It's been well known for years that during the Vietnam War (oh sorry, the Vietnam Conflict, Americas other illegal war of death and murder) GWB was a drunken, drugged out, daddies boy and a general little shit who dodged the draft simply by being one of Americas elite.

It's public record... or it was.

To offset these facts the the Republican Camp actually made ads attacking the Democrate Kerry' who has a crystal clear combat record and service.

While other Americans were being drafted into death patrols, GWB was at a party... drunk and stoned.

Your president... a liar, a cheat, a killer, and drunk.

Nice thread... shows I'm right about you little...



ROFLMAO

"I actually voted for John Kerry, before I voted against him"

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Friday, September 10, 2004 7:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
"Nuclear Weapons Found in Iraq"

Typical of right-wingers. Jumping all over something before the facts. But then, facts really don't seem to matter even afterwards either.

It doesn't matter that ObL is still at large, that no WMD were ever found, that Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9-11 and was not a security threat to the USA, that the tax cuts really only "stimuated" the ultra-wealthy and that the deficit is ballooning out of sight... these guys just keep listening to that happy music in their heads and then wonder what the h*ll happened when reality bites.



What does any of that have to do with this thread? LOL

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