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The "assault weapon" ban is dead!

POSTED BY: JCKnife
UPDATED: Monday, September 20, 2004 20:25
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Thursday, September 9, 2004 1:15 AM

Per the Republican leaders in congress, the ban will NOT come to either floor for a vote before it sunsets on Monday. This means the end of the Clinton gun ban of 1994. The media is spinning out of control on this issue and I wanted to give fellow browncoats some peace of mind.

This does NOT mean new machine guns will be for sale. Machine guns have been regulated since 1934 and production of NEW machine guns legally transferrable to civilians was stopped in 1986. That is not going to change.

What the end of the assault weapons ban (AWB) means is that people who buy perfecly legal semi-automatic rifles will be able to install certain cosmetic features like bayonets, flash supressors and folding stocks. The weapons are no more deadly with these features than without. Yes, it also means grenade launchers are allowed. But gues what: grenades are, of course, illegal. You could use a grenade launcher as a flare launcher. Whoopee.

It also means that ammunition magazines for rifles and handguns will no longer be restrained to 10 rounds. This will not have much effect on rifles as hundreds of thousands of "pre-ban" mags were grandfathered in. What it means to handgunners is that instead of paying $60-$90 for 15-round magazines, we can get them for $20 or less.

Most importantly, it means a rollback of government interference and a step up for personal freedom. The passage of the AWB in 1994 was the cause of the democrats' loss of control in congress (according to pres. Clinton) and since then not one piece of gun control has passed. 46 states have concealed carry now and national concealed carry for cops was just passed.

All in all, things seem on the right track here.

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Thursday, September 9, 2004 1:47 AM

I am not trying to put a damper on your spirit, but it isn't over until Monday. The Anti's will try everything they can to keep it from sunsetting. They may even resort to lies. I am on your side and have a collapsible stock ready and waiting.

Very good thread though, nice job!


ByteTheBullet (-:

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Thursday, September 9, 2004 1:54 AM

I have a question for you on a semi-related topic. I was told that it is illegal to manufacture silencers for firearms (as well as to own silencers) and I never bothered finding out if this was true or not. I figured you might have a better handle on this.

This issue came up back in the late eighties when my friends and I were modifying stock paint guns. We used to build our own silencers until we were warned that this might get us into trouble. They worked fine as silencers but about a third of the time the paint ball would burst in the silencer so it wasn't too big a hardship to get rid of them.

Sorry to divert the topic of the thread but it's something that has been on the back of my mind and it just popped up reading your post.

I shaved off my beard for you, devil woman!

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Thursday, September 9, 2004 2:02 AM

It is illegal to manfacture suppressors without a license. It is legal to own suppressors after applying for a permit and passing associated background checks, felons need not apply. Oh, and there is the tax stamp also. This pertains to firearms, I am uncertain on the subject of paint ball markers(guns) and suppressors, though it stands to reason. In my opinion there is a huge difference and should not be regulated the same.


ByteTheBullet (-:

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Thursday, September 9, 2004 2:50 AM

Thanks for the information ByteTheBullet. I agree with you that there is a huge difference and I would hope the current regulations reflect that. We were told at the time that they were using firearm regulations and just applying them to the use of paintball paraphenalia since they were a new product. I thought that was silly and was irritated that someone could possibly think what we manufactured was for firearms. I mean, the materials were all wrong.

I shaved off my beard for you, devil woman!

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Thursday, September 9, 2004 5:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ByteTheBullet:
I am not trying to put a damper on your spirit, but it isn't over until Monday. The Anti's will try everything they can to keep it from sunsetting. They may even resort to lies. I am on your side and have a collapsible stock ready and waiting.

Very good thread though, nice job!


ByteTheBullet (-:




Quote:

Wednesday, September 08, 2004
ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON — Congress will not vote on an assault weapons ban due to expire Monday, Republican leaders said Wednesday, rejecting a last-ditch effort by supporters to renew it.




You can read the whole story here:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,131813,00.html

Chalk one up for Freedom.

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Thursday, September 9, 2004 6:49 AM

Thank goodness grenade launchers are going to be legal again. Anybody know where I can pick one up? I have a duck-hunting trip coming up, and........

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Thursday, September 9, 2004 6:50 AM

P.S. I know you did NOT just use the words "Whole Story" and "Fox News" in the same post. Cuz that would be silly.

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Thursday, September 9, 2004 6:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JCKnife:
Most importantly, it means a rollback of government interference and a step up for personal freedom.



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Thursday, September 9, 2004 7:13 AM

FoxNews uses a lot of Associated Press news releases. That was one of them.

And I sell grenade launchers, maybe I can make you a deal.


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