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Thursday, September 9, 2004 12:55 AM

This is from another thread, I just want to clarify something before moving forward:

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So... individuals or groups that target innocent civilians for death are terrorists?

And since we charge Osama bin Laden with terrorism because he inspires and funds terrorists (although he hasn't actually blown himself up yet) then individuals or groups that inspire and fund OTHERS to target civilians are also terrorists?

I just want to make sure that I have this PERFECTLY clear. (SIGNYM)

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Wow? LOL. I'm not sure what your after, but I'm sure it's some sort of twisted view LOL. I would have to say that yes what you state is a pretty precise definition of what a terrorist is except that terrorists target civilians and Civilian infrastructures for the sole purpose of instilling terror.

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Well, OK except that it isn't the SOLE purpose of causing terror because that terror is to be used for gaining ANOTHER goal- whether it be converting everyone to Islam or carving out a piece of territory as your own.

More later....

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Thursday, September 9, 2004 1:42 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
This is from another thread, I just want to clarify something before moving forward:

Quote:

So... individuals or groups that target innocent civilians for death are terrorists?

And since we charge Osama bin Laden with terrorism because he inspires and funds terrorists (although he hasn't actually blown himself up yet) then individuals or groups that inspire and fund OTHERS to target civilians are also terrorists?

I just want to make sure that I have this PERFECTLY clear. (SIGNYM)

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Wow? LOL. I'm not sure what your after, but I'm sure it's some sort of twisted view LOL. I would have to say that yes what you state is a pretty precise definition of what a terrorist is except that terrorists target civilians and Civilian infrastructures for the sole purpose of instilling terror.

Pro-America, Pro-Democracy, Pro-Israeli, Pro-Freedom, Pro-Capitalism. Anti-Terrorist, Anti-Socialist, Anti-Dumbass

"Let Freedom Reign, death to Islamafascism"
(CONNORFLYNN)



Well, OK except that it isn't the SOLE purpose of causing terror because that terror is to be used for gaining ANOTHER goal- whether it be converting everyone to Islam or carving out a piece of territory as your own.

More later....



LOL..I give up. You win. The Islamafascists (oops, I meant the Militant godsends who fight for the right and just causes in the world and the furthering of the Fundamentalist Islamic beliefs) are righteous heroes. Suicide bombers are rational and right, we need more of em. Let's Nuke Israel and let the Zionist God sort the Zionist bastards out. Why stop there? I'm ordering a Berkha for all the women in my family, right after I start making plans to marry multiple women who will bear many sons for me. After all, it won't be long before Sharia is the rule of law and men will transcend to their rightful positions in the western world. Gods who will have women do their every bidding.

LOL get real.



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Thursday, September 9, 2004 1:53 AM

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The Jews, I believe, are still beloved in the eyes of God. They're like our religious older siblings.

Yeah, I agree. Christians hating Jews is the stupidest thing on Earth, with the possible exception of reality TV. About dealing with terrorists/ending civil wars, I say take it on a case-by-case basis. Still, some say the best way to counter terrorism is to give in to their demands, or at least the non-insane ones. Spain gave the Basques limited autonomy and self-government, everything except their own state, and the terrorists are now weak and ineffectual, with a much smaller support. The Al-qaeda Ultimate List of Demands, while pretty extreme, isn't as insane as their tactics or propoganda. It's got things like "All Arab oil should be in the hands of Arabs." and "Western troops should leave Muslim nations." I'm not saying we should give in to terrorists, just that if you don't really care about their demands, it might be worth thinking about granting some not-too-painful demands. With the Israeli conflict, however, they left some colonies, and the Palestinians saw it as cynical appeasement. So it goes back to the case-by-case thing: For Al-qaeda, kill 'em all. For the Basques, give in to a bunch of demands, like the right to teach their own language. For the Israel-Palestine conflict, pray for a miracle.

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Thursday, September 9, 2004 2:22 AM

Two morals to remember:

* Happy people don't blow them sevels up.

* Bombing your way to peace doesn't work for anyone.

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Thursday, September 9, 2004 2:37 AM

"* Bombing your way to peace doesn't work for anyone."

No it doesn't... but that still doesn't seem to stop anyone... "Islamifascists", Americans, Palestinians, Israelis, IRA, KKK, Granny Gertrude down the block, doesn't seem to matter. They're gonna keep pounding the heck out of each other for reasons that make a lot of sense to the respective side. One side is the "oppressive bully", the other the "terrorist fanatics". If folks'd understand both sides of the conflict (and before anyone goes all hoity-toity, I said understand, NOT empathize), they'd see that both sides might have a grounds on which to base their dislike of each other.

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Thursday, September 9, 2004 3:35 AM

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Thursday, September 9, 2004 3:48 AM

Blue man group ....... HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha hee hee hee ...

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Thursday, September 9, 2004 4:13 AM

ConnerFlynn- Actually, I had a question that I didn't have time to type!

Was Saddam a terrorist? I'm not wondering if he SUPPORTED terrorists, my question is- was Saddam himself a terrorist? After all, he DID target civilians with plastic-chippers, ear-lops and chemical weapons. There is a reason why his regime was called a "reign of terror".

And if he is a terrorist, would that also include Pol Pot? Josef Stalin?

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Thursday, September 9, 2004 4:30 AM

No, Stalin was a GENIUS.

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Thursday, September 9, 2004 4:57 AM

Stamp out intolerance! Fight violence in your neighborhood! We must ensure freedom with an iron fist!.... nope, I can't do it.

I was trying to think of an aphorism more ridiculous and meaningless than the "War on Terror"....

And I thought the "War on Drugs" was silly. They were just practicing!

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