Moscow's waking up..finally
POSTED BY: Connorflynn
UPDATED: Thursday, August 29, 2024 15:07
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Originally posted by Radhil:
Ah, I see.
Hrm... so what does that have to do with war? At all?
Radhil Trebors
Persona Under Construction
Most "Bleeding Heart Libs" by definition are socially very active as pacifists and traditional are namby pamby /wishy washy about war for any reason.
PS.. My favorite episode is "Jaynestown" hehe I loved it.
"Paulie, get the ball cutters" - Tony Soprano
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Originally posted by Connorflynn:
Most "Bleeding Heart Libs" by definition are socially very active as pacifists and traditional are namby pamby /wishy washy about war for any reason.
Oh, I know what it means, and what it's intended for. I just wanted him to spout off like a deranged psychotic more. It's cute to watch.
Radhil Trebors
Persona Under Construction
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Because when I am king, I will have entire armies of neo-cons, starved and deranged, and I shall throw them at my enemies and laugh as they do that whole heart ripping thing. And then smirk as they drink the blood of their enemies. Can't you just see and army of zombie-like Cheney's and Rumsfield's all in ragged old torn suits lumbering across the battlefield a la the latest Dawn of the Dead? Then while the Zombie Neo-con's are eating the corpsified wussy liberals, I'll carpet bomb the whole battefield and sit down with the reasonable minded everyone else and get down to making the world right. Having eliminated the most annoying and most extreme portions of the political world at large, I think it might work.
Plus it'd be all manner of fun to watch the wussy libs flail like little girls while the hunched over hand-wringing neocons laugh maniacally with mouths full of man-flesh.
But I'm kinda trolling and I have a flair for the sarcastic, ironic and satirical.
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So your problem with Islamic terrorists (as opposed to Jewish or Christian terrorists) is that the Islamic ones are more efficient and effective?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Southwest/01/30/cyanide.probe.ap/
In the small town of Noonday, Tex., F.B.I. agents discovered a weapons cache containing fully automatic machine guns, remote-controlled explosive devices disguised as briefcases, 60 pipe bombs and a chemical weapon — a cyanide bomb — big enough to kill everyone in a 30,000-square-foot building.
Every religion has its radicals. Every cause has its murderers (or wannabes who think that they're blessed by God. Of course, our President thinks Jesus talks to him over CoCoPuffs every morning. Friggin wacko - must be the three decades of living on his two favorite food groups: Cocaine and booze)
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"Just keep walkin, preacher man."
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Of course, nobody's mentioned Darfur. I say if we don't feel like a UN or African nation mass invasion, we kill the Sudanese air force, which would be incredibly easy for any non-poor nation.
I don't like the term "islamofascist," because radical Islam and Fascism are different things, even if they're both super-evil.
About terrorists being evil: yes, the 9/11 hijackers, the school attackers, and Al-qaida/Taliban members are all evil. But not every Islamic fighter is evil. The average Sadyr militiaman, hellbent on brutally murdering US troops, is not evil. Why? Because he's trying to liberate his nation from our occupation. While he probably should've given us more time to set up a government and his actions are pretty counterproductive, he thinks he's doing the right thing and his motivations are just.
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I believe that someone can be willing to die for God and not be a terrorist. There are many documented martyrs in the Christian faith (I don't know about Jewish or Muslim martyrs of the same, pacifist ilk, as I am uneducated in that regard). You would be hard pressed to call men and women who die at the hands of ignorant oppressors quietly and peacably, all while not renouncing their God, terrorists.
I agree. FYI, there were some Jewish martyrs, some who refused to fight on Saturday, even in self defense as they were being killed.
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But then, I don't consider suicide-bombers to be martyrs, but instead nutjobs. Suicide doesn't get you to heaven. Ever.
I don't think suicide bombings are wrong. What is wrong, however, is targeting civilians. Blowing yourself up in a bus is wrong. But if people want to die for a just cause, I say let 'em. Going on a risky, death-almost-certain commando raid is only a little less than strapping an explosive vest to yourself and trying to kill the enemy. That said, I think most suiciders, both the islamic extremists, and the Japs in WWII, are fundamentally selfish. The Palestinians who blow themself up would rather end their lives for supposed eternal rewards than work towards tough solutions in a war-torn region. The Japs who yelled "banzai" and charged our lines were being counterproductive, actually hurting their cause in exchange for supposed paradise. Also, anyone who commits suicide needs to think about the pain they'll inflict on their friends and family.
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Koran(sp?)
Yes, that's the prefered spelling. The less Westernized version is "Qu'ran," I think, but frankly I don't like typing apostrophes all the time, so I use your spelling. Like many Arab words, there are many equally acceptable spellings.
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I agree, more or less, with LtNowis.
It's so endearing when me, my family, my friends are accused of being namby pamby liberals. Even if when we saw the Beslan footage we felt that we could literally tear apart the mass murderers who did that, apparently anything less than a desire to bomb into dust large chunks of population in retaliation is bleeding heart whining liberalism - as is attempting to work out why terrorists do what they do and why the Middle East is such a hot bed of violence, and to see if we can change that through means other than blowing stuff up. I mean, obviously were completely stupid to try to - heaven forbid - tackle the causes rather than the symptoms.
And blimey! I thought a democracy required the discussion and analysing of TWO or more points of view before coming to a decision.
And to your undead army I raise the mightiest zombie liberal of them all, ZOMBIE BILL HICKS! QUAKE before his righteous, scattershot, porn obsessed rage. FEAR his Jack Daniels induced vengeance. COWER in the shadow of his equally fearsome comerades in corpsification (such an ace word, isn't it) ZOMBIE HUNTER S THOMPSON and ZOMBIE CHRIS MORRIS.
(None of you will know him, but Chris Morris is the only daring satirist left. The most balsy thing he did was follow drug dealers at night on a Brixton street in London asking for made up drugs while filmed on secret camera...
"Give me some Clarkey-Cat, I want to tripple jessop jessop jessop. I'm feeling all blooty. I need some quack candles!"
"I don't know what you mean!? Just f*** off! What do you MEAN!?"
For about half an hour. It is a miracle he wasn't shot.
"The twisted brain wrong of a one off man-mental."
He baits both Right wingers and Left wingers in the celebrity world. 'Brass Eye', watch it.
Once again, I digress mightily. But why not? I'm getting slightly weary with bizarre 'Death to X' rants.
And 'Objects in Space' is my second fave, GreyJedi. Early may be sick in the head, but he's also pretty damn cool.
"If you can keep your head whilst others... eurgh! Ack! I've spilt my ink! Ugh! Ink on my trousers! Agh! Ink on my shirt! My only hope! The window! Aieeeeee!" (Falls to death)
- Jonathan Nash
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But I'm kinda trolling and I have a flair for the sarcastic, ironic and satirical.
*laughing* I hadn't noticed.
No, seriously, I hadn't, until that. Thanks for the amusement - it's been a wierd sort of day.
Radhil Trebors
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I love all you guys.
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In all fairness, I try to be more moderate. If nothing else than to separate myself from the likes of the likes of Cheney and Rumsfield, hand-wringing bastards. I'm a Republican. I like that we can own guns, and I'd like that we can keep owning guns.
As far as the Middle-East is concerned, well, there's not a chance in hell anyone is going to stop the fighting down there. They've been fighting since Creation. It's when it all comes to peace that I'll be afraid. I'm going to side with Israel, but I'm going to go crazy and site religious reasons for doing so. The Jews, I believe, are still beloved in the eyes of God. They're like our religious older siblings. I think we did the right thing by going into Iraq. Bush has a grasp of high concepts and ideals, but I don't think he realizes all the logistics of a situation. He says do this thing, and doesn't necessarily understand how to make it happen. This isn't a bad thing, by itself. But I blame Rumsfield, not Bush, for the mucking up of Iraq. The pitfalls there are logistical errors that fall into the lap of the Secretary of Defense.
I talk a lot about heavy-handed destruction, death, severity. In reality, I have no desire to see a loss of human life if it can be helped. In war there are casualties. Unlike the uncaring bastards we're fighting against, we're trying our best to not shoot civilians. Which our enemies over there, and in Afghanistan, are using against us, but that is the nature of the beast. There is no way to understand or negotiate with terrorists of any nature, Muslim, Jew, Christian, Atheist, Whatever. Terrorists are skewed, warped, broken. Once it gets to the point of terrorism, there is no goal other than scaring a people. That's what terrorism is. The spread of terror. Not fear, terror. They don't want you to be afraid you might get attacked. They want you to know you're going to die. There is only one way to deal with terrorism -> 
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Here's the way it could work. The more conservative and/or hawks amongst us will support massive deployment of peace keeping force. We'll play crowd control, keep everyone in their corners. While we're doing that, the more liberal and/or doves amongst us can get the leaders of all these violent groups together and we'll play good-cop/bad-cop. We'll know we're fighting to keep folks away from one another long enough for you more liberal amongst us to make a lasting cease-fire. They don't have to like each other, just not shoot each other so much. And why the liberal doves for this? They're more likely to be subtle, kind, respectful. I'd just walk into the room with a loaded shotgun saying: "Make peace or die, bastards." Which of course would be the alternative. You talk them into peace or we shoot them.
I like that idea.
And Jubal....aiyah, what a nutcase. He talks too much. Give me Boba Fett's pissed off silence anyday.
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