Romney Holds Fast and Furiously to his limited Tax Return Release

POSTED BY: ANTHONYT
UPDATED: Monday, July 23, 2012 20:51
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NIKI2

Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:55 PM

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" I'm NewOldBrownCoat, and I disapprove of the use of color on any message board. It adds nothing functional to the process, only cosmetic improvement."

Just FYI:

--I was a desktop publisher, so I worked a lot with designs, color, etc. When you think about it, my entire occupation was to "cosmetically improve" things. I miss it...to a degree, color, font and icons are all I have left to "play" with.

--I'm bipolar; we love color, and it's been a huge part of my life in many ways, from my plants to now the signs I make for Occupy. It's an addiction; sorry about that, but there it is. ;o)

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Friday, July 20, 2012 3:24 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
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" I'm NewOldBrownCoat, and I disapprove of the use of color on any message board. It adds nothing functional to the process, only cosmetic improvement."
Just FYI:

--I was a desktop publisher, so I worked a lot with designs, color, etc. When you think about it, my entire occupation was to "cosmetically improve" things. I miss it...to a degree, color, font and icons are all I have left to "play" with.

--I'm bipolar; we love color, and it's been a huge part of my life in many ways, from my plants to now the signs I make for Occupy. It's an addiction; sorry about that, but there it is. ;o)

I used to be a scene designer myself. Take 2 shots of Alizeran Crimson, mix with Prussian Blue, add a drop of Thalo Green-- it'll look and taste really bad, and call me in the morning... :
Hey, reply came out WHITE. Excellent! Thank you.

MAL4PREZ

Friday, July 20, 2012 3:49 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Quote:
" I'm NewOldBrownCoat, and I disapprove of the use of color on any message board. It adds nothing functional to the process, only cosmetic improvement."
Just FYI:

--I was a desktop publisher, so I worked a lot with designs, color, etc. When you think about it, my entire occupation was to "cosmetically improve" things. I miss it...to a degree, color, font and icons are all I have left to "play" with.

--I'm bipolar; we love color, and it's been a huge part of my life in many ways, from my plants to now the signs I make for Occupy. It's an addiction; sorry about that, but there it is. ;o)

Right there with you. I made images of the underground for oil companies. Couldn't give a shit about the oil, I liked finding ways to sharpen and visualize the images... I'm still opinionated about these kinds of things. Color is important.

OK, really I'm posting this just to test your use of tags. I'm a fan of colored fonts, but it seems silly that now, in 2012, it's still a formatting issue. I should be able to simply type stuff at the end of your quoted post and have it work all right, without any weird fonts or colors.

My solution has always been to delete all formatting in a quoted post. I like simple. I like to see as much as possible on one screen, and all those extra lines of formatting and signatures, etc, just take up space.

I'm also posting this to make a request: Niki, when you post a link, please put in a blank line after it, before anything else. I've noticed this for some time. If you would just include a line break before your /quote or /font or whatever tags you end your post with, your links won't bleed over to the next line. It seems I always have to copy and paste your link rather than clicking on it, and this might be the fix.

OK, it's late. I'm sleepy.

ETA: these tags worked! I got no blue font.

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hmm-burble-blah, blah-blah-blah, take a left

KWICKO

Friday, July 20, 2012 3:55 AM

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Originally posted by mal4prez:

I'm also posting this to make a request: Niki, when you post a link, please put in a blank line after it, before anything else. I've noticed this for some time. If you would just include a line break before your /quote or /font or whatever tags you end your post with, your links won't bleed over to the next line. It seems I always have to copy and paste your link rather than clicking on it, and this might be the fix.

This is good advice, and applies to everybody, not Niki alone.

And it applies to photos, gifs, jpegs, etc., too, not just links.

Ever hit "Reply With Quote" when someone had a pic in their post, and your reply comes out gray and their pic in your reply is a broken-image box? That's 'cause they didn't have a line-break after the image...

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

GEEZER

Friday, July 20, 2012 1:46 PM

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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
This is the second time I've seen you equate 'Bainers' to 'Birthers.' I'm not sure the comparison is apt. With the Birthers, there is no substantive evidence of their concerns. With Bainers, there are at least some official documents that show nominal ownership and control long after both were supposedly surrendered. The defense is that such ownership and control was merely a legal technicality, and not a functioning fact. However, while the birther claims are based on rumor and innuendo, the Bain concerns stem from actual official documents and require a larger context in order to dismiss.

In essence, it is a comparison between something unsubstantiated preposterous, and something which is technically true, but possibly not practically poignant.

Equivocating the two situations creates the erroneous impression that you have a personal bias on the matter, something I'm sure you did not intend.

I'll probably continue to use the term "Bainers" as shorthand for the folks who want to make an issue of this. Seems better than having to write "Folks who want to keep this issue alive after many un-biased news agencies have found there's nothing to it, sort'a like they found there's nothing to the Obama birth certificate chase."

You and I both know that neither the "Birthers" or the "Bainers" really hope to change the mind of anyone who's not already totally invested in their point of view. It's just something to keep the ultras fired up. Seems to be working here.

KWICKO

Friday, July 20, 2012 11:28 PM

It's funny, because Romney himself seems to be a birther now. He keeps referring to Obama as "foreign", which can really only be taken one of two ways: Either he thinks Obama really is a foreigner (not an American citizen), or he thinks Obama is "foreign" just because he's black, and black people can never truly be Americans.

So I'll ask again: Is Romney a birther, or is he a racist? Or is he both?

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

KWICKO

Friday, July 20, 2012 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:
Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
This is the second time I've seen you equate 'Bainers' to 'Birthers.' I'm not sure the comparison is apt. With the Birthers, there is no substantive evidence of their concerns. With Bainers, there are at least some official documents that show nominal ownership and control long after both were supposedly surrendered. The defense is that such ownership and control was merely a legal technicality, and not a functioning fact. However, while the birther claims are based on rumor and innuendo, the Bain concerns stem from actual official documents and require a larger context in order to dismiss.

In essence, it is a comparison between something unsubstantiated preposterous, and something which is technically true, but possibly not practically poignant.

Equivocating the two situations creates the erroneous impression that you have a personal bias on the matter, something I'm sure you did not intend.

I'll probably continue to use the term "Bainers" as shorthand for the folks who want to make an issue of this. Seems better than having to write "Folks who want to keep this issue alive after many un-biased news agencies have found there's nothing to it, sort'a like they found there's nothing to the Obama birth certificate chase."

You and I both know that neither the "Birthers" or the "Bainers" really hope to change the mind of anyone who's not already totally invested in their point of view. It's just something to keep the ultras fired up. Seems to be working here.

It's funny that "Bainer" when used as a derogatory term by right-wing idiots sounds exactly like the Speaker of the House's last name.

Guess your no fan of Boehner...

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Friday, July 20, 2012 11:46 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

It's funny that "Bainer" when used as a derogatory term by right-wing idiots sounds exactly like the Speaker of the House's last name.

Guess your no fan of Boehner...

I always have wondered how they got a pronunciation of "a" out of the letters "oeh" . I see a name spelled like that, the sound that comes out of my mouth is:

"boner."

Little too much truth in advertising there, perhaps.

NIKI2

Monday, July 23, 2012 8:51 PM

Mike, yeah, I see what happens in the "bluFFF" with the bleeding over. Something's screwed up there. I tried putting a space after the quote; that screwed up the italics I used in the cite. I tried putting a space after the coding for italics; that screwed up something else (I forget what). One of the reasons I came back to the beta site, I just said "screw it"! Another reason was often I would click on 'post" and nothing would happen. Bah.

I will try your suggestion of putting a blank like after a quote, and we'll see how that works. Such a shame all that stuff is screwed up; it should simply WORK. Then again, computers...

Romney's not a birther; it's campaign tactics, you know that. They're having trouble with their candidate; he doesn't want to talk about his time as governor, his religion, his time with Bain, or it would seem much of anything ELSE...he has one message and only one message: "I'm not Obama". Obviously the more the campaign can make Obama look, be it the economy or that he's an "other", it works for them. It's true, tho', it only works on the fringers and those already voting for Romney; aside from that, it's just a waste of dog-whistle rhetoric.

Equally absurd is arguing against those who want to see Romney's tax returns. Obama's birth certificate had NO validity in anything, it was merely Orly Taitz looking for another obsession, and that it lingers merely shows how much some fringe elements hate Obama. Romney's tax returns are PERTINENT to choosing a President, given the things he's expressed as his credentials; the fact that he is SO adamant about not showing them understandably makes people believe there's something to hide. To call such people "Bainers" is tantamount to calling them unreasonable conspiracy theorists, which the birthers and "truthers" (in my opinion) were and continue to be, but which THEY are not.

It's just convenient politispeak to label them as such, nothing more. It's perfectly reasonable to want to know about Romney's finances; other candidates have done it; there should be no problem with it. I guess the Republicans calling for him to show them makes THEM "Bainers" too, right?

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